Airless Exchange?

I guess that my move to lock and close my For Sale thread got noticed... :o LOL For Sale... One Opened Can O' Worms... Cheap! ;)

Progunner said:
Greg you were not in violation of the 72 hour rule if you were modifying your price. That is an adjustment on your part pertaining to the sale of your knife, not just you saying "Bump it up to the top". That's the way I read the rule last time I looked at it.

I agree, the exchange is over burdened with GWs right now, that probably has more to do with it than the 72 hour rule in regards to Jaxx's thread.
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I'm inclined to believe you, Porkgunner, but believe it or not, I just sold a Skelly this morning AFTER I had locked the thread. They DO sell... As long as you can stay in the first 2 pages. These aren't easy sells right now, and I feel slightly penalized for WANTING to WORK at selling them, Ya know? My prices aren't terrible... Are they? :confused: ...But they are selling. Competition rules, but IF you aren't seen, you're outta mind. :) I was ALL READY to adopt your method under the old rules to use the same thread over and over instead of opening new sale threads, but now, I believe that the opposite may work... One knife, one thread... space them out about 6 hrs. apart... rotate as necessary... I don't WANT to do that but... :grumpy:

Guyon said:
I think gunning up to 72 hours was ridiculous. From 1 day to 3 days? I still don't understand this decision and maintain that a 48 hour trial would have been much more sensible.

In some respects, I wish now I hadn't just renewed the Gold Membership in November...
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How do ya think I feel??? I pretty much forfeited MY GOLD membership to go PLATINUM... The GOLD doesn't expire until MAY, but I felt that this site was WORTH the UPGRADE... Now??? ...Well, don't ask me yet as things may improve...
Jaxx
 
Jaxx said:
:) I was ALL READY to adopt your method under the old rules to use the same thread over and over instead of opening new sale threads, but now, I believe that the opposite may work... One knife, one thread...Jaxx
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It is and has been my opinion ever since I saw the exchange for the first time as a new member that the thread titles should give enough detail that you can tell what is being sold and if it is still available without opening the thread and reading it.

If BF did this the buyers could fly through 20 pages of for sale items.

Look at ebay... do you have to look at the details of an item to figure out if you are interested? No you don't. Do you think that eBay may have put possibly $100,000,000 into Market research too figure out what works? OK maybe just $50,000,000...

So I think that the Progunner method is the wrong way to go. I know he may have nice stuff so he is a real pain for me now because I HAVE TOO look at his for sale thread all the time to figure out if he has anything I might want. I use to be able to just look at his titles and decide from there.

Also if the person posting the thread could edit its title to show "sold" that would help too.

Tony G
One knife one thread!
 
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Originally Posted by on_the_edge
Does this constitute chatter in the FS threads?

"PM/e-mail inbound..."

Yes, it does. - per mod.....................


And remember what you say here (or in the gen comments section where this discussion is going on) can and will be used against you - trust me I know...............
 
I really enjoy this site and its forums, but we really seem to be getting hit with a little too much in the rule department, after all we live in a society that our day to day lives revolves around what is politically correct, strict laws, rules, our busy daily lives, jobs, family and of course taxes. A forum such as this is a nice way too get away from the daily grind and have fun talking about what we enjoy. I agree that we need rules, but this is an adult geared site and the majority of us act as such, we really should let a couple notches on the belt loose, before too many people start to become disgruntled and this forum strays away from what it is. Beating a dead horse, maybe, but if it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
Tony G said:
It is and has been my opinion ever since I saw the exchange for the first time as a new member that the thread titles should give enough detail that you can tell what is being sold and if it is still available without opening the thread and reading it.

If BF did this the buyers could fly through 20 pages of for sale items.


Also if the person posting the thread could edit its title to show "sold" that would help too.

Tony G
One knife one thread!
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I agree....Scanning the subject should give you enough information....other than that, it's nice to see a picture of what's offered. Basic marketing....if you want it sold faster, make it obvious what's for sale, post a picture of it and price it right. My other pet peeve is when people delete the price after its sold.
 
Guyon said:
I think gunning up to 72 hours was ridiculous. From 1 day to 3 days? I still don't understand this decision and maintain that a 48 hour trial would have been much more sensible.

In some respects, I wish now I hadn't just renewed the Gold Membership in November.

FWIW, Rat-30, I think the better place for this thread is Service and Support. Here, you're preaching to the choir.
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I was going to get a membership until I saw this thread:thumbdn:
Just lost my (small) fee, but how many others will they loose from this?
 
Rules are fine.

The problem is that the new rules are arbitrary and discriminatory and there was no discusion about the "problem" before they changed.

This forum isn't a democracy, but if spark ran it like a democracy we wouldn't have a reason to complain. Forums are already set up to do polls and I'm pretty sure spark can filter the data by membership level.

I don't know who created this XXXX-storm but I don't think it was a general outcry from forum members, we would have heard about that.

p.s. item description and price in the title line or first line of the ad is an excelent idea. I can't tell you how many times I skipped over Progunner's ad because I thought it must not be a good deal if it has been around that long.
 
wash said:
Rules are fine.

The problem is that the new rules are arbitrary and discriminatory and there was no discusion about the "problem" before they changed.

This forum isn't a democracy, but if spark ran it like a democracy we wouldn't have a reason to complain. Forums are already set up to do polls and I'm pretty sure spark can filter the data by membership level.

I don't know who created this XXXX-storm but I don't think it was a general outcry from forum members, we would have heard about that.

p.s. item description and price in the title line or first line of the ad is an excelent idea. I can't tell you how many times I skipped over Progunner's ad because I thought it must not be a good deal if it has been around that long.
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Actually it is complaints from other members about how "we" (meaning Busse Forum folks) chat up the FS Threads with Busse's in them, or "free bump" listing with either good items or good prices/sellers... THIS is the result, i.e. "fallout".
 
TurnerIII said:
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Originally Posted by on_the_edge
Does this constitute chatter in the FS threads?

"PM/e-mail inbound..."

Yes, it does. - per mod.....................


And remember what you say here (or in the gen comments section where this discussion is going on) can and will be used against you - trust me I know...............
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INFO UPDATE STRAIGHT FROM Spark's KEYBOARD:

Spark said:
I missed that. PM / Email inbound is not chatter, it's a declaration of intent to purchase. That isn't chatter at all, Code-3 do not interpret it as such. That said, if people start abusing it, I will start locking thread and banning people.

This is not a time to start rules lawyering folks. Do not try my patience on this, I'm sick of hearing complaints about people doing this and that and trying to get around the very fair rules I've done.

You can either work with me, or work against me, or not take part at all. I'd hope you'd give me a chance before you decide to start butting heads.
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xanax said:
I was going to get a membership until I saw this thread:thumbdn:
Just lost my (small) fee, but how many others will they loose from this?
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I would not give up yet. Ideas are still being kicked around and this has been a wonderful palce for a long time. This is just a little bump in the road and after things settle down a bit I do believe it will be a nice place again.

It is the pattern of groups like this to perodically get wooped up - but then reality settles in and things are ok again.

And that IS coming from me .......... and I have had my issues with this situation.
 
Jaxx said:
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Good I do hope he leashes a few of the dogs.......... I posted that perhpas they should get together and review their rules - I do not like getting bit erroneously by an overly intent mod...
 
Perhaps a little perspective from the broader world will help?;)

Bumps come along all the time. Some are short, some are long.

I've been working in the DoD and Intelligence Community (IC) for decades. I've seen a great number of bumps -- some are years in duration. Because these communities are fairly closed and under constant stress, the strength of reactions are intensified even further. The longer the bump, the more intense it is, the more folks vote with their feet. All of this is just human nature...but it sure has hurt our ability to get the job done, to work together as a team and meet challenges.

As everyone else's ability to inter-communicate has grown greater (in the broader world), people's reaction to bumps has grown more intense. We actually feed on each other -- one person's unhappiness generates, very rapidly, unhappiness in dozens of others. Issues considered 'minor bumps' a decade ago become 'major bumps' now. The broader community is starting to feel more like the hothouse world of, say, the IC.

It's our decision -- each and every one of us -- whether this issue is a minor bump or a major bump. It's the intensity and persistence of our individual reactions that will determine whether this hurts BladeForums (sets it back years) or whether BladeForums moves past this.

I'm glad to see we're thinking about this in the open, as a group. And not letting bad feelings/bad reactions generate their inevitable consequences.

My advice: don't let bumps get you down. Take a breath, take a drink, put it in perspective. If this place was important to you six months ago...if you enjoyed it and looked forward to participating...it can ALWAYS be that way again. You and your friends can make it happen. Maybe in a slightly different way and with a few different faces. But there's nothing wrong with that.:)

From another old fellow who's seen a lot bigger bumps that this...
 
If the price is right, things never make it to page 2 unsold! All you whiners need to DRINK MORE! Stay drunk and all is good! Someone open a few bottles- it's time for more drinks! No regrets!
 
i got an infraction for making a permitted bump with price drops. still trying to sort that one out.
 
I tend to agree with Old Physics on this....been around since Jun 2001 and still here for the long hall.
 
I've been around since sept 98 or 99 and also agree that this will get sorted out. It does seem like a long time period though and it is a paying membership. Which mine expired a few years back, re-newed it a couple times, but going to hold off for right now, anyway. Goodluck to those who are trying to sell right now.:thumbup:
 
Pardon me for asking a stupid question. If people don't like the way the exchange operates, why don't they just sell their knives someplace else?
 
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