Alcohol Stove

IUKE12 said:
I like all these stoves guys, keep them coming:thumbup: Guyon, I use a 1/16 drill bit and run 18 holes half inch down from the top edge. I gave one of my stoves to Hollowdweller. He took it hiking/camping and ran it side by side with a White Box Stove. Reported that mine boiled water faster but the run time was not as long. I have never owned a WB stove so I couldn't compare. What I see missing in these posts is the windscreens. What are you guys using...possible pics??
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Thanks for the specs. :thumbup:
The White Box comes with a pretty good aluminum windscreen.
Here's a pic of the windscreen in use.

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Guyon said:
Thanks for the specs. :thumbup:
The White Box comes with a pretty good aluminum windscreen.
Here's a pic of the windscreen in use.
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So what is this "White Box" stove that I keep reading on here? I've followed every link, and can't figure out what it is.
 
rockspyder said:
So what is this "White Box" stove that I keep reading on here? I've followed every link, and can't figure out what it is.
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I think you'll find the answer at whiteboxstoves dot com. They ship in a plain white box, hence the name.
 
One tip I found on a boyscout site was to fill the container with water, freeze-then cut. Doing that may help cutting thicker bottles with saw.

I don't have any innovative ideas on machining a new design alcohol burner. I like them in summer more than winter. It sounds difficult to do better than soda cans as the end product is about the right size, very thin and light. hard to beat the ready made materials imho.

I use magic stove. Sure I wish it was a bit lighter weight, less expensive. It too will hold trangia or can stove, wood, charcoal. It's folding design, fully bombproof, were its selling points.

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good luck with your efforts I hope to see your results
 
I'm finding the vargo titanium design in the triad version only (Not the XE) is what I am leaning towards. The size is good and can be filled after it goes out without waiting for it to cool down like the XE model (Requires disassembly). The windscreen design I am working on will nicely nest over the cup so that I can minimize space but I am finding I might need to do my own cup design for the folding handle placement is too low and they are also a little shorter then what I am trying to do.

Most of the can stove consume too much space...the whitebox is nice because you dont need a stand. But using the vargo triad I have found it burns as long as I need and does offer a ton of option because of the stand. I can slip it under my gi canteen stove and heat up my canteen cup as well...or fold the legs out and put a cup on it. it really works well. And it is light! So a puck stove was what I am interested in. My windscreen is also a stand so this covers a ton of options. The nylon sack for this will include everything I need to carry to cook with, windscreen/stand, stove, cup, spork, alcohol (I am thinking 8oz or so...possibly a bladder design), 32oz naglene, cup lid, and matches/lighter. From a soloist standpoint this could be one of the nicest setups, it might not be a fast as a jet or reactor but it is far more space conscience then they are with less points of failure. Space and weight! Did I mention the windscreen.stand will work with an esbit too!
 
Briarbrow said:
One tip I found on a boyscout site was to fill the container with water, freeze-then cut. Doing that may help cutting thicker bottles with saw.

I don't have any innovative ideas on machining a new design alcohol burner. I like them in summer more than winter. It sounds difficult to do better than soda cans as the end product is about the right size, very thin and light. hard to beat the ready made materials imho.

I use magic stove. Sure I wish it was a bit lighter weight, less expensive. It too will hold trangia or can stove, wood, charcoal. It's folding design, fully bombproof, were its selling points.

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good luck with your efforts I hope to see your results
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Can I get one of those in the states? That thing is impressive...doesnt damn near everything! Yes it is big but car camping it might be perfect!
 
You can get one, sure. I paid with echeck. It took about a month guesstimate to arrive.

How long can you cook with a pound of alcohol I asked myself. I didn't answer i bought this:)

It is work to cut fuel to right size unless snapping twigs-which burn up quickly but sawing and splitting mini stove billets for hours of burning is work. I have even used longer sticks an allowed the fire to grow around to be 3x the size of the box. the fire box size fire alone is not quite enough to warm shelter interior to toasty.
 
rockspyder said:
So what is this "White Box" stove that I keep reading on here? I've followed every link, and can't figure out what it is.
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If you own a Becker knife and post up a pic of it in the appropriate contest thread over in the Becker forum, you could win one. :thumbup:

soapboxpreacher said:
This is my standard kit in action:

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Cool kit. I just got that same set-up. In fact, we had a fire in the pit tonight, and your pic inspired me to try it out with some coals taken from the fire.
 
Guyon said:
If you own a Becker knife and post up a pic of it in the appropriate contest thread over in the Becker forum, you could win one. :thumbup:




Cool kit. I just got that same set-up. In fact, we had a fire in the pit tonight, and your pic inspired me to try it out with some coals taken from the fire.
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It really works well. I am yet to find something I can actually carry water in and still have a stove, cup, and so on without losing a ton of space! I really like how this setup is and how well it packs. I can put coals under it, twigs (not so easy), pop can stove (7 Minute boils) and so on. I have heated up soup and chili in it, as well as summer sausage (cant do any of this well in my JetBoil...it get too hot too fast and is so hard to control. As for the GI Canteen kit, it is becoming harder to pack with modern day packs. They all seem to be designed around a 32 oz naglene. But unless there is some introduction of a new stove/cup/stand many of us will need to pack a Jetboil or some other cooking system. Unfortunately the jetboil is so limited in its capability because of lack of control and what not...it is simply a water boiler for bag foods like Mountain House. My GI kit might not look as nice or boil as fast but it is more versatile and more space friendly then my jet...dont get me wrong...I love the jet boil big time! But it has it limits.

My goal as stated before is to modernize a kit that offers the same dying benefits the GI kit does bu takes it further. This is purely a soloist kit but so is the GI. Cant wait to get this together! It has been fun and inspired by my GI canteen Kit

Next outting I will post some pictures of my becker BK along with my GI. My becker BK7 and sven saw have pretty much covered my wood needs...I carry a folder too. But I find the BK7 to be perfect for what I need it for. Right size, weight, like the handle. I put a great edge on it with my sharpmaker (factory edge was uneven) took me a while but wow is she nice!
 
soapboxpreacher... have you looked at the surplus Swiss Volcano stoves?...nested cup, aluminum bottle (some worry about the cork top) and can use twig, esbit, Trangia (I opened up the hole so stove/snuffer cap can be inserted through the side).. light weight aluminum
 
Les Snyder said:
soapboxpreacher... have you looked at the surplus Swiss Volcano stoves?...nested cup, aluminum bottle (some worry about the cork top) and can use twig, esbit, Trangia (I opened up the hole so stove/snuffer cap can be inserted through the side).. light weight aluminum
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Yeah I have, I am not nuts about the aluminum (Tends to add a bad taste to the water) nor the cork. I asked if it leaks but no one replied back. It looks nice and certainly seems to solve the problem as well as offer a great option. But it is also starting to get a little difficult to find. I might just order one to see...there are some used one for 9 bucks. How many oz can the cup hold. I could add a Sigg bottle but they are 24 bucks and still aluminum...a little pricey for aluminum
 
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soapboxpreacher said:
Yeah I have, I am not nuts about the aluminum (Tends to add a bad taste to the water) nor the cork. I asked if it leaks but no one replied back. It looks nice and certainly seems to solve the problem as well as offer a great option. But it is also starting to get a little difficult to find. I might just order one to see...there are some used one for 9 bucks. How many oz can the cup hold. I could add a Sigg bottle but they are 24 bucks and still aluminum...a little pricey for aluminum
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Don't pay $9 for a used one. That's still the new(ish) price at three or four vendors I can think of off the top of my head. Shoot me an email.
 
Guyon said:
Don't pay $9 for a used one. That's still the new(ish) price at three or four vendors I can think of off the top of my head. Shoot me an email.
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Would a 27 oz Klean Kanteen fit (I believe the 40 oz is going to be to big to have everything snapped in (Cup, Stove, Bottle). I know the Sigg will and you can get the Sigg in a Steelworks version which is stainless. However I have heard mixed about Siggs Steelworks line, taste issues, leaking...made in china. I am trying to stay away from the aluminum versions at sigg for I would think they would have a bad taste too. So the Klean Kanteen is an option and the Klean Kanteen is much cheaper. I am hoping one of these fits without rattling around in the stove. That stove is really sweet! It is soo versatile.
 
soapboxpreacher... cup 16oz, bottle 32oz... I bought the 2 pack new surplus from Sportsman's Guide...
 
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I am finding that the swiss ranger stove setup is excellent. It needs a few changes to modernize it and it would be an excellent choice for an overwhelming majority of hiker, campers, adventurist. I have already began a design of a modern day version that uses far better materials and once again maximizes space while still being versatile!
 
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