Hi friends, i was just thinking about all the fun and great skills we as a group can do in north arizona, i know i would have a great time on a short backpacking trip, i was thinking 2 to 3 miles some were north, like Mogollon Rim, maybe Bear Canyon Lake sounds good, but im open to other ideas. I think we can all set up a two to five day campout in the woods of arizona, i see J33psru1e, fieldtestornothing, DRE, and my self are from arizona, and i did say to mbackfu if i go you can go with me, i think others from arizona are on this forum as well. Going with a group of people into the woods is fun, i did it for 12 years, most of the trips are a car camping trip, i did a small bit of backpackihg trips, but as i say im open to other ideas and ways, i know i will have a good time. We can all see if other people want to go along, now i know one or two of you maybe thinking the group may be to large, and you may be right. But in a group you have alot of help, from first aid to getting fire wood, to keeping a large black bear out of are tents and camp, it works for me. Lats say DRE breaks a leg, or any of us do, we now are three miles out in the woods, up and down hills, with plants and rocks in are way, we can in a group help carry this man out to get real help, as a large group we can do alot. I know alot of you will say yes its a good idea, i was going to take some time off in October, i think around the 2nd week, but i will look. This will be time to get the ball rolling, and set up the trip, we can all split the cost of the gas from phoenix to north arizona, and just use one or to cars, the others can park at my house or others homes, we can all buy are own food and drinks, but lets think backpacking food and drink unless we are going on a car style trip. And just one more idea, it may be good or not so good, there is no reason for all of us to carry the same gear, i talking like all of us having hand water filters, binoculars, any climbing gear, so on and so on. please look on this forum on this page i posted my phone number, call me, i want to do this trip. As i was saying on this posting, im open to other ideas, so if any of you dont want, or think you can not backpack 2 to 3 miles, i think the others on this forum will cut it down to fit your needs, i know i will, i will help you in any way i can, and if you need to, i will help carry any gear in my pack you can not. Its not that im in good shape, its just me wanting to help a friend out. Please all think about this, than call me and we will set it up, and one day we my look back on this after we all make good friends for life, and think, if it was not for the bladeforum we may not know each other, your friend at the post Donald S.