Am I the only one who does not own a folder?

[22-rimfire]

It all depends on what you routinely CUT on a regular basis. I downsized about a year ago to a Vic Small Tinker (3.3" closed) and it handles most of my day to day edc needs for a knife. If I carry another folder or a fixed blade, it is purely because I want to and not because my usual cutting needs require the strength.

When I chose to give the Small Tinker a try, I was already comfortable with SAKs in general for edc. But I didn't know if I would be comfortable with such a small knife that fits in a watch pocket for using. It has proved to be enough for my day to day needs overall. I tried a peanut first and decided I wanted something a bit larger for day to day use. The Small Tinker has worked out.

The Peanut experiment was the result of a thread started by in the traditional forum.

 

[jaseman]

How does something draw attention that's never seen? Or, do you use your folder at work? You make many valid points as you potential +/- of fixed or folder. I'm not using one currently (current fixed EDC posted prior pages) but I found the ESEE Izula very comfortable in a pocket and disappears totally.

I do use my folder on occasion at work. Opening a package, slicing an apple or kiwi at lunch, or random tasks if I have to go out to the warehouse. Pretty much anything we all use a knife for on a daily basis.

My office is business casual, so i'm in nice jeans and a tucked in shirt most days. At 6.5", plus an extra 1/2" or so for the sheath, which also adds an .5" to 1" to the width (don't own one, so I'm just guestimating) and it becomes a bit much for me personally to want in a front pocket. Where as my longest EDC folder is 5" long closed. The extra inc or two in either direction makes a big difference in overall comfort in pocket for me. Like I said, something a bit smaller would be feasible, but I generally prefer around a 3"-3.5" blade length for EDC, as I find it most versatile for me. A fixed blade that size fills the pocket pretty quickly. So for me, it's just a comfort thing.

Admittedly, everyone in my small office knows I always carry a pocket knife. But a clip in the pocket doesn't scream knife like even a small cross draw fixed blade. Especially when I have to see clients or vendors.

After work, and on the weekends, I do carry a small fixed blade most of the time. But I'm less concerned about what other people think when I'm on my own time.

 

[Quiet]

That's something I had not considered, but that's low on my list of concerns, but a good point for those using their knives that care about such things. I open boxes, cut a sandwich, but rope, etc with my EDC fixed and a nice cut per se is very low on the list of proprieties. No moving parts, concerns of lock up, lube, washers, strength, speed of deployment, etc are higher on the priorities list for me.

So, you don't actually need a cutting tool? I guess that explains why an EDC fixed blade works better for you.

 

[22-rimfire]

.....I didn't intend this thread to go into fixed vs folder per se, but that's where it went.

Where did you expect it to go? I don't recall if I responded in that thread or not, but I see no point at this time.

 

[WillB]

So, you don't actually need a cutting tool? I guess that explains why an EDC fixed blade works better for you.

So according to you, fixed blades are inherently inferior to folders for cutting? You're trolling skills are as dull as your knowledge of knives apparently.

 

[The Aflac Duck]

So according to you, fixed blades are inherently inferior to folders for cutting? You're trolling skills are as dull as knowledge of knives apparently.

Where did he say that?

 

[Quiet]

So according to you, fixed blades are inherently inferior to folders for cutting? You're trolling skills are as dull as knowledge of knives apparently.

Actually, not at all. It's also pretty clear I know a lot more about knives than you do. A pocket fixed blade is frankly one of the dumbest things that this hobby has managed to cook up. Tell me, you said that pocket folding knives have...how did you put it? "Look at me!" clips? So, given that most pocket fixed blades have those Ulti-clips on their sheathes, what are those called?

Also, if they DON'T have those, then flat out a folder is the superior option. Speed of deployment? LOL Let me dig this sheathed knife out of my pock...oh, you just took out your folder and cut the sandwich already? Dag, guess back into my pocket it goes.

Your opinion is fine, because it's just your opinion, but please don't act like those of us who know better don't know what we're talking about, thanks. Lastly, please stop calling people who post up logical opposition to your statements trolls, it makes you look...well, dull.

 

[Quiet]

Oh hey Bladeforums, right quick, can someone give me a quick logic check? What's safer? Folding a knife, and then sliding it back into a pocket, or just jabbing a fixed blade back into your pocket and hoping you correctly put it in its sheath so you don't get jabbed in the boys?

 

[22-rimfire]

So according to you, fixed blades are inherently inferior to folders for cutting? You're trolling skills are as dull as your knowledge of knives apparently.

Well WillB, THAT is a trolling post you are accusing someone else for doing. But I know, you just want to keep this going, right? I doubt you are going to persuade anyone that has posted already in this thread that prefers folders.

Quick deployment is not something that I care about. Otherwise, I wouldn't carry a SAK.

 

[WillB]

Where did he say that?

If you can't figure that out from his comments, I can't help you there. I don't priorities "nice" cuts over other things, to which he insinuated fixed blades don't make good cutting tools saying "So, you don't actually need a cutting tool?"

Obviously fixed bladed EDC knives are as good, or superior cutting tools to folders, dependent on some variables you're well aware of.

 

[Quiet]

If you can't figure that out from his comments, I can't help you there. I don't priorities "nice" cuts over other things, to which he insinuated fixed blades don't make good cutting tools saying "So, you don't actually need a cutting tool?"

Obviously fixed bladed EDC knives are as good, or superior cutting tools to folders, dependent on some variables you're well aware of.

They definitely aren't superior, despite your repeated claims. Sorry.

 

[Fonedork]

I often carry a 6" fixed blade fighter concealed down the back of my pants in the office and whip it out to freak people out. I'll ask, "Does my back look weird?" Then when they say "Uh, no?" I whip out the knife and nonchalantly cut a bagel or envelope or something. Other than that kind of thing, you can play with folders a lot more than fixed blades, open and close them, it's kinda fun. There are also ways to cut your fingers with folders that don't happen with fixed blades. Since folders are often geared as being playthings with bearings and ultra smooth action and stuff I think most people who favor them have cut fingers with the closing blade.

Sorry Quiet, lol I was using all talking points from your posts hahaha

 

[WillB]

Well WillB, THAT is a trolling post you are accusing someone else for doing. But I know, you just want to keep this going, right? I doubt you are going to persuade anyone that has posted already in this thread that prefers folders.

Quick deployment is not something that I care about. Otherwise, I wouldn't carry a SAK.

But "...you don't actually need a cutting tool?" as a response is accurate you say? Ok bro, no trolling there.

 

[The Aflac Duck]

If you can't figure that out from his comments, I can't help you there. I don't priorities "nice" cuts over other things, to which he insinuated fixed blades don't make good cutting tools saying "So, you don't actually need a cutting tool?"

Obviously fixed bladed EDC knives are as good, or superior cutting tools to folders, dependent on some variables you're well aware of.

What’s funny is that I know for a fact that’s not what he was saying. I actually know Quiet pretty well, actually.

One thing I will say is that the pocket carry sheaths I have keep a good few inches of knife handle sticking out of my pocket which is way more obvious than a folder clip. I’d have to size a fixed blade down to a tiny little scalpel to fully conceal in my pocket, and at that point I don’t even see any use in even carrying a knife that small.

 

[WillB]

They definitely aren't superior, despite your repeated claims. Sorry.

And your reading comp sucks or you're trolling, or both, as Y made no such claim. "EDC knives are as good, or superior cutting tools to folders" is as simple as it gets if one if not trolling as you are.

 

[Quiet]

And your reading comp sucks or you're trolling, or both, as Y made no such claim. "EDC knives are as good, or superior cutting tools to folders" is as simple as it gets if one if not trolling as you are.

Oh, my reading comprehension appears to be better than yours. Your statement IS as simple as it gets, because it's simply wrong.

 

[Quiet]

Given that the primary purpose of knives is as a cutting implement (something that WillB has decided is unimportant), can anyone give this guy a hand and list some small, light, 2.5-3.5 pocket fixed blades we could out and buy right now that are good at cutting as say...your standard Spyderco ParaMiliDelicaDura, SAK, Opinel, etc.? Some folks carry knives to cut things, not to try to jab ourselves in the crotch putting it away. So, I'm curious as to what's out there? After all, if I'm trading the objectively superior convenience of carry that a folder offers for the chance to get jabbed in the ribs by a handle, I'd like to know the knife can actually cut as well. Oh, and I'm going to need a full four fingered grip, OH OH, and it can't be visible sticking out of my pocket. It also needs to be as convenient to deploy, and then replace in the pocket without looking.

Anybody care to recommend a knife that can meet all those parameters? Or should we just agree that pocket fixed blades are silly, and are nothing but a bundle of compromises that are primarily carried because people think that folding knives suck because they fold, which candidly is bad logic?

 

[The Aflac Duck]

I do enjoy this knife on my belt from time to time, carried in CM style. I’ll still carry a folder with it though.

 

[WillB]

What’s funny is that I know for a fact that’s not what he was saying. I actually know pretty well, actually.

He's trolling and you damn well know it. If you wanna defend your pal and pretend otherwise, be my guest. If you'd like to interpret what he's trying to say minus the trolling and obvious continued attempts to take out of context my comments to troll, be my guest.

One thing I will say is that the pocket carry sheaths I have keep a good few inches of knife handle sticking out of my pocket which is way more obvious than a folder clip. I’d have to size a fixed blade down to a tiny little scalpel to fully conceal in my pocket, and at that point I don’t even see any use in even carrying a knife that small.

Depending on what I'm wearing/cut of the pocket, only thing one can see from the EDC fixed I posed before is the clip. If I don't want the clip to show, and or, shallow angle of the pocket makes some of the handle pike out, I will either drop into the pocket, or go IWB as needed.

 

[Quiet]

So, would you say that it's a "Look at me" clip? I mean, that's odd given that you were listing that as a negative of folding knives a page ago.