Another copy from Boker?

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Detroit1980 said:
The main point I've been trying to make with some of these guys is that they are just hypocrites when it comes down to it. They wanna make themselves feel like they're part of an elite club when in reality they are just addicted to knives. They still end up supporting things they're against even if it's indirectly but they don't care because they're controlled by their addiction.
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Thanks for that explanation, Doc!
Of course we end up "supporting" things we are against indirectly. It's impossible not to. But when it comes down to this hobby, it is very possible not to.
 
Detroit1980 said:
The main point I've been trying to make with some of these guys is that they are just hypocrites when it comes down to it. They wanna make themselves feel like they're part of an elite club when in reality they are just addicted to knives. They still end up supporting things they're against even if it's indirectly but they don't care because they're controlled by their addiction.
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That’s ridiculous. I’m betting the guys you’re referring to pay their bills and feed their families FIRST, and then enjoy their hobby. I know some stuff is outta my price range, so I save until I have enough socked back and then buy what I want. Maybe you should do the same.
 
danbot said:
Thanks for that explanation, Doc!
Of course we end up "supporting" things we are against indirectly. It's impossible not to. But when it comes down to this hobby, it is very possible not to.
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Well the guy who created this post is directly supporting it. He's against Grindworx selling this but buys plenty from Blade HQ. Some of you guys are pathetic.
 
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JamesofArc said:
To think that your knife knowledge is so great that you can boycott Boker is kind of out of this world.

Boker has forgotten more about knives than any here will ever know.

Your showing that your head is so far up your bung hole that you have lost touch with reality.
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Looks like you need a touch up on reading comprehension.
 
Detroit1980 said:
Well some of you guys prove that you knowingly support it too, like the guy who created this thread. He's upset Grindworx us selling a "copy" but buys plenty of things off Blade HQ.

I was originally hoping to make some new friends when I first joined but I realized so many of you are hypocrites and have a serious knife problem. It's probably even led to divorces or will lead to them eventually but sone of you need to get

Well the guy who created this post is directly supporting it. He's against Grindworx selling this but buys plenty from Blade HQ. Some of you guys are pathetic.
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Calling people hypocrites is a great way to make new friends!:thumbsup: You've been pretty sensitive since day one here since you don't want to hear any criticism of your purchases. Why don't you lay out a logical case for us as to why no one here should be buying from BHQ with some examples of the problem.
 
Before the Internet it was impossible for a group of people with similar interest, located all over the world to gather and discuss those interests.
I consider everyone here a brother ( or sister) , we don't always agree, but in the end we all love the same thing.

There's really no need to make assumptions about other people's motives for pointing it out or name calling. It's an issue and we're discussing it.

As far as Boker ripping the Protech Magic.... I really didn't see it at first, until it was pointed out.
Whether your ok with it or not, is a personal choice but I can understand both sides of the issue.
 
Detroit1980 said:
Well some of you guys prove that you knowingly support it too, like the guy who created this thread. He's upset Grindworx us selling a "copy" but buys plenty of things off Blade HQ.

I was originally hoping to make some new friends when I first joined but I realized so many of you are hypocrites and have a serious knife problem. It's probably even led to divorces or will lead to them eventually but sone of you need to get

Well the guy who created this post is directly supporting it. He's against Grindworx selling this but buys plenty from Blade HQ. Some of you guys are pathetic.
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Keep on trucking. You are doing great ! If you want pathetic (or lacking reading comprehension) look in your mirror : you start out barking at a brand and then, in the stride, lump in the distributors making that brand available. You just want to make a point. What point ? Not clear to me because if you were so happy with your first (clone) knife, you could have just stayed there and not intrude in a zone where people know a thing or two about knives. Unlike you.
 
danbot said:
Calling people hypocrites is a great way to make new friends!:thumbsup: You've been pretty sensitive since day one here since you don't want to hear any criticism of your purchases. Why don't you lay out a logical case for us as to why no one here should be buying from BHQ with some examples of the problem.
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I'm obviously not trying to make any new friends lol. I don't want to be friends with someone who criticizes someone for buying certain products but then turns around and supports companies that sell those same products or have other methods of copying other's work.

You should know I'm all about anybody buying whatever they want. I'll continue buying from Blade HQ, Grindworx or any other place I want including a Ganzo seller if that's what I decide I want. I already said that Blade HQ and Grindworx are owned by the same company and Grindworx has plenty of knives that fall into the "knockoff" category.
 
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Detroit1980 said:
I'm obviously not trying to make any new friends lol. I don't want to be friends with someone who criticizes someone for buying certain products but then turns around and supports companies that sell those same products or have other methods of copying other's work.

You should know I'm all about anybody buying whatever they want. I'll continue buying from Blade HQ, Grindworx or any other place I want including a Ganzo seller if that's what I decide I want. I already told you that Blade HQ and Grindworx are owned by the same company and Grindworx has plenty of knives that fall into the "knockoff" category.
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Well, I've never purchased a knife through BHQ, and I won't start now if this is the case.
You are free to buy all the Ganzo knives your little heart desires, but just understand that this is not the place where their praises are sung.
 
herisson said:
Keep on trucking. You are doing great ! If you want pathetic (or lacking reading comprehension) look in your mirror : you start out barking at a brand and then, in the stride, lump in the distributors making that brand available. You just want to make a point. What point ? Not clear to me because if you were so happy with your first (clone) knife, you could have just stayed there and not intrude in a zone where people know a thing or two about knives. Unlike you.
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I've said it over and over that some of these guys are just hypocrites lol.
 
You are playing a stale schtick. We have seen this over and over. To sum up : Böker is one of the oldest brands still around. They make great German traditionals (Böker Solingen range, made in Solingen, Germany), plenty of collabs and modern designs (Böker Plus range, world produced : Italy, Spain, Taiwan, Japan, China) and the Böker Magnum range (which I regret) that regroups tactical, martial and other phony stuff (produced in China). There is also their Argentinian branch (Böker Arbolito) that is more into hunting and "gaucho" knives. So, you badmouthing such a rich and diverse brand (which may include more than one dubious choice, for sure) just sounds "young" and the afterwash of libeling forum members as "hypocrites" makes you look downright "bad".
 
herisson said:
You are playing a stale schtick. We have seen this over and over. To sum up : Böker is one of the oldest brands still around. They make great German traditionals (Böker Solingen range, made in Solingen, Germany), plenty of collabs and modern designs (Böker Plus range, world produced : Italy, Spain, Taiwan, Japan, China) and the Böker Magnum range (which I regret) that regroups tactical, martial and other phony stuff (produced in China). There is also their Argentinian branch (Böker Arbolito) that is more into hunting and "gaucho" knives. So, you badmouthing such a rich and diverse brand (which may include more than one dubious choice, for sure) just sounds "young" and the afterwash of libeling forum members as "hypocrites" makes you look downright "bad".
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I didn't badmouth Boker lol. I'm all for people buying Boker if that's what they want.

The original poster was badmouthing Boker. He was claiming that they "copied" the Protech Magic. It's actually a Cobratec knife but he seems to think Boker and Cobratec are affiliated.
 
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Detroit1980 said:
You're just a hypocrite.
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You seem to lack an understanding of what our issue is and what a patent is I suggest you do some research first on patents and patent laws. Our issue is IP theft and the use of the Axis lock by everyone is not IP theft due to how patents and patent laws work.
Eversion said:
In my opinion,

This is okay:
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This, isn't:
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You can utilize a lock without ripping the whole thing.

Edit: I feel this way even if the second were released after the patent expired, like the first one was.
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Both are ok to me at least if both were made today.
 
KingMC said:
Enough of the name-calling, it’s not acceptable here in the GKD.
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Sorry, I guess I didn't consider it a bad name since I think we're all hypocrites to an extend. It just annoys me to see people continue to go down the same path of hypocrisy over and over again.
 
I would like to see proof of Boker being directly connected to this company because you may not be aware but Boker's site actually list products made by other vendors primarily in my searches they have been European manufacturers namely a lot of the Italian brands. I think I had heard of BladeHQ having another vendor site don't recall what it was nor did I see a lot to substantiate the claim at that time either but nor did I really see it being used to condemn BladeHQ either so ignored it. If you want to make a similar claim and particularly if you want to condemn them by that claim then substantiate such claims. Your claim seems to be a link to Grindworx which I believe mentioned elsewhere in this thread happened to remove the product from their offerings already so seems like Grindworx is being legit at least on this instance I know little of the site or company.
 
PirateSeulb said:
You seem to lack an understanding of what our issue is and what a patent is I suggest you do some research first on patents and patent laws. Our issue is IP theft and the use of the Axis lock by everyone is not IP theft due to how patents and patent laws work.
Both are ok to me at least if both were made today.
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The reason I brought up the Axis lock patent issue was because I don't believe that Protech has a patent on the hidden bolster lock which would make it fair game for Cobratec or Boker to use the mechanism and from what you say about that Ganzo in the picture I don't even know why we're arguing.

I have been arguing with the same few guys on multiple threads ever since I created my account. I even tried apologizing because I really wanted to agree to disagree but they assumed I just agreed that I was wrong and that they were right and it wasn't the case. My views will always be the same and nobody should be treated like garbage because they choose to buy a knife that they don't approve of.

Last time I was scrolling through the general knife discussion there was a new guy talking about a Ganzo that they immediately attacked and flamed and even accused him of being a troll possibly. I just think it's ridiculous and I don't know why the moderators allow their behavior to go on. Instead they look at me like I'm always the bad guy. I've been called names and have had offensive stuff said to me but I've never seen anything said to them.
 
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Despite the lock mechanism I find the whole design a bit too similar but I will admit I haven't given it my full attention and what I was reading to me indicated a misunderstanding particularly with the throwing about the term hypocrite. I may dig more into this particularly knifes design more myself later but I do still take some issue with Boker's name being dragged through the mud when their biggest fault according to current reading is that their site might have had it for sale but to my knowledge Boker has no connection in the manufacture of this knife.
 
Detroit1980 said:
Sorry, I guess I didn't consider it a bad name since I think we're all hypocrites to an extend. It just annoys me to see people continue to go down the same path of hypocrisy over and over again.
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And it annoys me to see the same people defending Ganzo and clones in general over and over again, knowing that those brands are detested by much of the membership here.
 
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