Answer: A chopper and a small carry knife...............

As for a hatchet, one in INFI would be cool, but I'm with Will on the fact that another brand will likely be a superior hatchet at a cheaper cost. Gransfors Bruks has been making these things for quite a while. Since 1902, in fact. They have a few tricks up their sleeves at this point.

Folder? I'm picky about folders. If the folder is big enough that I need a sheath, then I'd rather just carry a fixed blade. And to keep the folder in the realistic domain of the Busse warranty, my suspicion is that it might be big and possibly thick. Just not my style of folder really. I had a large Sebenza and sold it. My next one will be a small Classic. When I'm not carrying a SAK these days, I usually have the Spyderco Calypso III on me.
 
kourepai said:
Well, my objection to this is that not all steel types can be heat treated successfully to 62 Rc. It is not an coincidence that most folders are made from S30V or 154CM. Even the rattraps. Much more wear resistant and better edge retention. And then the issue is: Are people are going to buy this folder because it is better, or just because it is a busse? I agree that it will sell, but once again I think that infi is a great steel for large heavy duty knives.
However, I must say that till I perform an edge retention test on 62 Rc infi and other types of steel, I can give infi the benefit of the doubt. Time (and Jerry) will show.
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INFI has been taken to an Rc of 62 and higher succesfully with no chipping. The most likely(and I am 99% sure of this) reason why INFI was dropped to 58 was because of all the dumb azzes that take an SHBM out with a sledge hammer and decide to tear up their concrete driveway with it to prove a point to their drunk buddies and, succesfully, I might add. However, the end product was a totally disfigured SHBM.

As for edge holding, INFI has proven itself to hold an edge much longer than most steels available. Most that use their knives know this and have proven it to themselves.
 
i checked my Hellrazor on a rockwell meter and it was 60.5 some kind of case hardening process. that Infi is strange stuff
 
I got a real Khukri this weeekend. Its .420 thick and a razor.

I want a khukri!~

axe and or small hatchet

nesmuck

machette:):)

and a folder. A little light tough folder. Similar to Sebenza size. anything else is too big.
 
I believe in the Nessmuk philosophy. I do subsitute the ax with a FBM. Works rather well for me. I'm sticking with it.
 
But fat is where its at. ;) :cool: :D


Guyon said:
1) FBM SE 2007. You can't baton (split) wood with a hatchet as easily, though I do recognize it holds its own in cross-grain chopping.

2) Bony AD. Thin is in.

The other question is: What should I get for my first Busse? The answer used to be: Any one you can get your hands on.

More recently, however, there are actual choices to consider.
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Horton_Knives said:
Yeah a INFI Paul Bunyon Special Nuked Axe.............that was a great idea.. i want custom shop one with Burl Ash handle and Infi handle wedge............................ oooh and Banned.........
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i was really trying to be funny! but no one laughed but me... i guess i love my own humor......
 
I truly like this thread.

Although there are many folders and axes on the market, the folder for most people would be the most popular as they can carry it where the ax cannot go (work, city, edc) but you can haul your folder anywhere. The folder is of course more difficult to manufacture and prone to have, like Cobalt said, some character try to pry out a car hood with one and claim warranty if it breaks. I'm sure everybody will agree that either offering would have sell out potential beyond the current line up.

I WANT A BUSSE FOLDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3"-4" drop point, titanium handle (NO CHOIL like the striders)!

What about a collaboration between Spyderco and Busse? The manufacturing equipment of Spyderco the Metallurgy and design from Busse and Technical Input from both. I'm suggesting Spyderco because I respect the owner and the quality of their products and the do collaborate with prominent knife makers but there are others.
 
Right or wrong Porkducci should get what he wants :grumpy:

Seriously there are enough guys that would want an Axe and about 25,000 that would want the folder.

I do agree with Cobalt that the high RC would be a good thing since other parts of the knife will bust first. And it isn't like old SHBM were weak at around 60-61.

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a couple of SHBMs with an Rc of 65 seemed to have help up pretty well after years of beatings. ;) :D :thumbup:

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Lil' Foo said:
a couple of SHBMs with an Rc of 65 seemed to have help up pretty well after years of beatings. ;) :D :thumbup:

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Imagine how special a steel it must be that with only 0.5% carbon it can attain Rc of 65, and it's not even friction forged :D well maybe it is friction forged since no one knows what Jerry and Garth do in the shop after hours, but there may be friction involved.:eek:
 
Cobalt said:
Imagine how special a steel it must be that with only 0.5% carbon it can attain Rc of 65, and it's not even friction forged :D well maybe it is friction forged since no one knows what Jerry and Garth do in the shop after hours, but there may be friction involved.:eek:
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:eek: :eek: :eek:

:foot:
 
I would have to say that the GW (especially skelly variety) is a great edc. Of course I have a 3 inch knife law here, so perfect length. The BM's will do most of what a hatchet will do. When you start getting into big axes, the BM won't keep up. I don't chop too many trees, but I do keep at least one axe in the tool box of my truck. I really need to get a chain saw (maybe I can talk my dad out of one).

I would like a infi folder too.
 
Well. I'm glad to see that at least a couple of people would like to see a Busse Axe and Folder! :D

First of all, I didn't say that the Hatchet/Axe would have to be one made from INFI and thus expensive, Busse does a great job of heat treating A2 or L7, either one would be fine with me. I just feel that a good ergonomic handled Busse Hatchet/Axe would be better for chopping wood if you had a lot to do than a large knife, your hand would be in better shape in the end. I also like the Hatchet/Axe idea of having a flat opposite side for pounding in stakes, a nail or smashing/flatting something, this is pretty hard to do with a knife.

And as far as a folder goes, it may work out great in Finland, but walking around in the office here at work or out in public, people tend to panic too easily and a folder is not even noticed. Sure, I could go buy many good mid-range folders (and I have out of need) to use, but they are almost all made from S30V or 154cm (not the old good 154) or even one of the powder metalurgy metals (with no grain direction) that all tend to chip with their thin edges. I don't use a folder to pry with or abuse much (yes, I have all sizes of fixed blade Busse knives for that), but just want a INFI bladed folder for everyday use.


:D
 
I am with you and your subsequent line of reasoning Mr. York, and, no, I've never managed to break a solid axe head along the lines of a Plumb, Kelly, Arvika, Tuatahi, Keesteel, Trojan, Collins, Belnap, Lakeside, Oxhead-Iltis, Keech or any of the hard hitting axes out of Australia. I seriously doubt if Busse could improve on these.

I am in utter agreement with you on the basics. Busse should bring those back post haste. Also, an INFI machete in an 18 inch configuration would be a decent item which I might consider purchasing as a Christmas gift.
 
There were many excellent fixed blade knives and folders being produced before Busse ever made knives and look at all Jerry came up with! So to say that Jerry couldn't improve what is currently being offered as far as Hatchet/Axes or folders sounds like a challenge to me!!! :eek:


:D
 
kourepai said:
Well, my objection to this is that not all steel types can be heat treated successfully to 62 Rc. It is not an coincidence that most folders are made from S30V or 154CM. Even the rattraps. Much more wear resistant and better edge retention. And then the issue is: Are people are going to buy this folder because it is better, or just because it is a busse? I agree that it will sell, but once again I think that infi is a great steel for large heavy duty knives.
However, I must say that till I perform an edge retention test on 62 Rc infi and other types of steel, I can give infi the benefit of the doubt. Time (and Jerry) will show.
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Uh, Cobalt's already done edge rentention testing on 62 RC INFI as have I and some others ;) the 1/300 SHBM's were 62 RC. :D OOOOOOH YEA. You know you want one! But Tony and I have them all :D. We let Cobalt keep one :D.
 
Cobalt said:
The most likely(and I am 99% sure of this) reason why INFI was dropped to 58 was because of all the dumb azzes that take an SHBM out with a sledge hammer and decide to tear up their concrete driveway with it to prove a point to their drunk buddies and, succesfully, I might add. However, the end product was a totally disfigured SHBM.
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Well, I will have to agree with this. And truth be told I would really like to see a differentially heat treated busse with 54-56 at the spine (or even the standard of 58-60) and 61-63 at the edge. I think it would be a fantastic knife, but it should come with a word of warning: USE IT AS A KNIFE!!!
 
randucci said:
There were many excellent fixed blade knives and folders being produced before Busse ever made knives and look at all Jerry came up with! So to say that Jerry couldn't improve what is currently being offered as far as Hatchet/Axes or folders sounds like a challenge to me!!! :eek:


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I bet it would be a duesy. An INFI axe would be mighty pricey though :D I'd still be good for one ;)
 
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