Any airgunners here?

I hear you on the weight issues. But I would sacrifice by adding some weight for a lot more accuracy with a longer barrel. You can get 4.5 oz C02 tanks that are pretty light. But you also said you had velocity issues due to temperature. That can be fixed but with more weight.

You have 2 options for smoother velocities. #1 is go HPA (high pressure air), that can be just regular compressed air or nitrogen. This is problematic because of the tank size and weight. But it is guaranteed to give you steady velocity readings at any temperature. Plus its much cleaner than Co2.
Option #2 is to stick with C02, get a larger tank and do a bit of modding. You'll first need to turn your tank upright to prevent liquid C02 form draining into your internal mechanics and freezing them (causing o-rings to wear MUCH faster). Next is you'll need to have some sort of expansion chamber. And expansion chamber is virtually anything that allows the liquid C02 to expand before it enters your gun. It can be as large or as small as you want. The hose that connects your tank to your gun is considered an expansion chamber. The goal is to allow the liquid as much room and time to expand before it enters your gun. The larger the chamber, the more stable your velocity when shooting, more shots per tank and less fluctuations in changing temperature.

The cheapest way out is a bigger Co2 tank and some mild add-on work. Its fairly cheap and easy but it does add weight.

GET A LONGER BARREL!! You will quiet your gun, gain longer shooting distance, get more punch to your shot and gain better accuracy. Thats 4 win to 1 lose (weight...and not a lot at that).
 
Lt.Col.Vortex said:
I hear you on the weight issues. But I would sacrifice by adding some weight for a lot more accuracy with a longer barrel. You can get 4.5 oz C02 tanks that are pretty light. But you also said you had velocity issues due to temperature. That can be fixed but with more weight.

You have 2 options for smoother velocities. #1 is go HPA (high pressure air), that can be just regular compressed air or nitrogen. This is problematic because of the tank size and weight. But it is guaranteed to give you steady velocity readings at any temperature. Plus its much cleaner than Co2.
Option #2 is to stick with C02, get a larger tank and do a bit of modding. You'll first need to turn your tank upright to prevent liquid C02 form draining into your internal mechanics and freezing them (causing o-rings to wear MUCH faster). Next is you'll need to have some sort of expansion chamber. And expansion chamber is virtually anything that allows the liquid C02 to expand before it enters your gun. It can be as large or as small as you want. The hose that connects your tank to your gun is considered an expansion chamber. The goal is to allow the liquid as much room and time to expand before it enters your gun. The larger the chamber, the more stable your velocity when shooting, more shots per tank and less fluctuations in changing temperature.

The cheapest way out is a bigger Co2 tank and some mild add-on work. Its fairly cheap and easy but it does add weight.

GET A LONGER BARREL!! You will quiet your gun, gain longer shooting distance, get more punch to your shot and gain better accuracy. Thats 4 win to 1 lose (weight...and not a lot at that).
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The longer barrel would only really give me more volocity, the accuracy is already there and sound isn't much of an issue. My velocity issues are seasonal, have to re-zero when there's substantial changes in the weather (I always re-zero/check zero before hunting anyways, so no big deal). I know my options as far as changing up my gas system and seen them all done, but I think I'm pretty much done with dumping money into this particular gun. I'd rather spend the money on a new PCP.

-sh00ter
 
I just picked up a decent Sheridan Blue Streak at a yard sale.
I'm eager to see how the internals fared through the years.
Serial of 66911. If my info is right it's from 1974.

One odd thing though. The number is stamped on the action right above the "Blue Streak" not in front like I have seen on others...?
 
Blue Streaks are great guns! I've been looking at those as well. Also been seriously considering the Xisico XS25S, which is a clone of the RWS 34, but much cheaper at only $125 or so. It is not a knock-off, but a high quality gun copy.

I just got my Crosman MK I working temporarily with hardware store o-rings, but I have proper seals on the way. A new barrel also, mine is pitted badly due to neglect by a previous owner.


-Xander
 
I got mine taken down. It needs seals...
Anybody have a good resource for reasonably priced seals?

I now have two 5mm Blue Streaks and one newer Benjamin in 5.5mm.
The younger of the Blue Streaks is a parts gun though...
 
I love plinking vermon with my air rifle. I highly recommend Gamo PBA Raptor Pellets. They make my 1000fps air rifle sound like a 22. In all honesty though I prefer a bigger pellet like a .22 for the stopping power.
 
I'm an airgun enthusiast because of the potential for shooting them in places where you couldn't shoot a firearm.

When I was young I started with an old Crosman pump gun in .22. Then I got a Benjamin pump new for Christmas and shot it a lot. It was .177 smoothbore made for steel BB's so it was cheap to shoot. Then I bought a Benjamin 5mm blue streak. I still have all of these.

In my adult life I bought a BSA .177 breakbarrel gun. It shoots well and is reasonably accurate. I like it because it is easy to shoot- one cocking stroke vs. a lot of pumping. I bought a QB-22 .22cal CO2 gun, and the similar Crosman CO2 gun. I bought the similar Crosman pistol but haven't gotten to shoot it much. I bought a Daisy 777 for target shooting, and also bought a used FWB pistol. The FWB has a recoilless spring action and electronic trigger.

I think that adds up to 9 total.

When I was a kid I inherited my brother in law's pump Benjamin. Someone had gotten a stack of pellets stuck in the barrel and I couldn't get them out. Then just a few years ago I found a local guy that did repairs and he said he had a special drill to drill out the pellets. I had had this gun for almsot 40 years, I found the action and stock in my parents storage room and took it to the guy. I found the box of parts that I had taken off of the gun in my closet. I put it all together and gave it back to my brother in law as a gift.
 
bdmicarta said:
.....Then just a few years ago I found a local guy that did repairs and he said he had a special drill to drill out the pellets. I had had this gun for almsot 40 years, I found the action and stock in my parents storage room and took it to the guy. I found the box of parts that I had taken off of the gun in my closet. I put it all together and gave it back to my brother in law as a gift.
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Good story!

There is a service center provider on Crosman's(they own Sheridan) website for repairs

http://www.crosman.com/cs/service-center

I got back into airguns this year...something that I could shoot in the back yard or the garage. Had a Spanish made Beeman GS1050...liked it ok, but it was a bit underpowered...and a friend wanted to trade a very nice pair of headphones for it, and that was a GREAT trade.

Decided that .22 was the way to go in terms of pellet availability and power, so....test drove the RWS Diana 34, and the TechForce TF89....in deciding what to get. Wanted a magnum and a non-magnum. When the dust settled, it was an RWS Diana 350P and a Stoeger X20.

The German-made Diana came out of the box shooting almost 850 fps, weighs almost 9 lbs and is 48" oal. The T06 trigger was set at an obscenely low 4 ounces. Have since ramped it up to almost 2 lbs, which is barely on the level of acceptable for a sporting airgun....but it is so smooth, and the sear breaks like a glass rod. It needed a light deburring of the receiver action cuts, and I put in a Maccari spring kit and new seal. It now shoots just over 800 fps with 16 grain pellets....which is wonderful...it yields almost 23 ft lbs of energy. This air rifle is extremely accurate. It requires quite an effort to cock, and because of the expense(roughly $350.00), size and weight, is not a good choice for a casual airgunner...this is more of a dedicated hunting airgun.

The Stoeger is made in China. It is extremely well machined....and it is a bear to take apart. It shoots about 700 fps, with a 16 grain pellet...yielding about 17.4 fpe. I just replaced the trigger with the Archer Airguns GTXII drop in which brought the trigger down from 6 lbs to about 4 lbs, and made it much smoother, with a significantly cleaner transition from 1st to 2nd stage.

Springer rifles can have a very "crunchy" cocking action as the spring is compressed and an unpleasant "twang" when fired. Two ways to fix this are "old" school, use some heavy tar-like grease on the spring to lubricate the coils, and provide some stiction as the spring uncoils. This quiets the rifle, and can usually result in some lowered fps...so in that case it is up to the airgunner to decide what is most important...for me, I wanted easy results, so I did use the "tar".

The other option is a machined kit, that might take some light airgunsmithing to fit, something like the Vortek tune kit which comes with front and rear spring guides that produce similar results to the "tar" without the likelihood of fpe loss...that light airgunsmithing voids the factory warranty if it comes up, and I didn't want to risk that.

Dianas have quite a following and their own web forum, fwiw.

I have really enjoyed shooting these in the garage!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
Springer rifles can have a very "crunchy" cocking action as the spring is compressed and an unpleasant "twang" when fired. Two ways to fix this are "old" school, use some heavy tar-like grease on the spring to lubricate the coils, and provide some stiction as the spring uncoils. This quiets the rifle, and can usually result in some lowered fps...so in that case it is up to the airgunner to decide what is most important...for me, I wanted easy results, so I did use the "tar".
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Can you still get air springs?
 
bdmicarta said:
Can you still get air springs?
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Do you mean Nitro pistons? That is basically a shock absorber type that replaces a spring...and yes, but not for the rifles that I have. There is a certain appeal to a coil spring, very low maintenance once they are set up.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
JSMcustoms said:
Got a couple of air rifles. A Crosman Fury springer and a Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk.
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How is the Dusk??? I was about to get a Crosman a few years ago but it never fell through. Since all the nitro pistons are the same, basically all NP guns shoot the same. This is why I was going to go with a cheaper Crosman rather than coughing up $400+ for a Gamo.
 
Great thread! :thumbup:

Here are my air pistols, nothing too fancy that's for sure but they are still good fun. :)

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I've got two rifles in need of a refurb (read, new seals and complete rebuilds lol!) so I'd love to get those rebuilt when I get the time... :rolleyes:
 
When I was a kid, I got a Daisy BB gun. I was happy with it, and then one day I went hunting with it. I had a squirrel about eight feet in front of me, I took aim and fired. The BB bounced off.

Never hunted with an airgun ever again.
 
Adventure Wolf said:
When I was a kid, I got a Daisy BB gun. I was happy with it, and then one day I went hunting with it. I had a squirrel about eight feet in front of me, I took aim and fired. The BB bounced off.

Never hunted with an airgun ever again.
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You're doing it wrong....


BOOM! Headshot!
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-sh00ter
 
Adventure Wolf said:
When I was a kid, I got a Daisy BB gun. I was happy with it, and then one day I went hunting with it. I had a squirrel about eight feet in front of me, I took aim and fired. The BB bounced off.

Never hunted with an airgun ever again.
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Kids toys are built for paper and not to injure a child when they do something stupid. A good European airgun or pistol is more then enough to kill varmints. A Daisy BB in the palm of my hand hurts, a pellet from any of my European air rifles will send me to a hand surgeon for repairs and the ER for pain killers.
 
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