Anyone else sick of Magnacut already…

Sick of Magna?

  • Fo shizzle, Magna overblown dawg

    Votes: 37 25.0%
  • Nah I luvs it

    Votes: 115 77.7%

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I wouldn't be suprised to see magnacut become the new s30v in coming years. By that I mean the defacto steel option for entry level quality knives, like s30v has been for ever. I would rather have magnacut 63-64 myself.

I don't think CRK would be using it if it didn't have benefits over the steels he used previously. I'd imagine alot of testing went into making that decision
 
"Buy what you like", well, sort of... Seems like EVERY new release is damn magnacut, so not many options if you want a new knife. And because it's the latest fad, manufacturers are charging a big premium for it.
I think the biggest gripe is that they aren't offering a "regular" steel option on most new designs. I'd much rather have CPM-154 for 30%+ less.
This is kind of my point. I think magnacut may be becoming the "regular" steel now. Just a better regular
 
This is kind of my point. I think magnacut may be becoming the "regular" steel now. Just a better regular
Maybe, except when S30V (yuck) started displacing 154cm, it was first offered as the "premium" version as an upcharge.
With magnacut, it was just overnight, "everything is magnacut, everything is more expensive, there are no longer any regular priced options".
 
"Buy what you like", well, sort of... Seems like EVERY new release is damn magnacut, so not many options if you want a new knife. And because it's the latest fad, manufacturers are charging a big premium for it.
I think the biggest gripe is that they aren't offering a "regular" steel option on most new designs. I'd much rather have CPM-154 for 30%+ less.
The makers and the dealers provide, generally speaking, what's in demand. You can always go the custom route if the steel you're seeking is really that hard to come by from one of the manufacturers you prefer.
 
I've been getting outstanding results from magnacut at 63+ hrc in terms of initial sharpness, edge retention and strength.

Good thing I have bladeforums to tell me how boring and lackluster the steel is!

I'd be lost!
And easy to strop back to hair-popping sharp when needed. I only have 3 fixed blades in it, but I could not be happier with it.
 
Ugh so over it being on EVERY damn knife.

Companies’ charging more for it like it so spesh when it doesn’t even hold an edge like S45.

Even bloody CRK, who should only be allowed to use steels that Chris had a hand in designing, are using magnacut.

Made the knife landscape so damn bland (in addition to every knife being a made in China ti flipper meow). I want variety dammit.
I'm not sick of it , 'cause haven't got any yet . :)

Still waiting for prices to come down, after y'all early adopters get onto something new ! ;)
 
It’s the new hot steel and folks really like it. Low maintenance with excellent knife properties. Like others have said, it’s hot until the next “new” steel comes out, and honestly, I think it’s nice to have so many options to choose from now.
 
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Well, a steel is more than it's name, some folks only have a surface level interest in the metallurgy involved which is a damn shame because going deeper unveils of the true magic of materials rather than just looking at steels like trading cards.

MagnaCut is impressive because it changed the industry in how we think about stainless steels.

It was known in the industry that steels like CPM 4V/Vanadis 4 Extra were the "Nexus" of toughness, strength and wear which no stainless could achieve.
Along comes MagnaCut with it's humble 10.7% Cr and it's not only finer in microstructure than Elmax and Vanadis 4 E but tested so corrosion resistant Spyderco put it in their Salt water line.
This went against conventional wisdom of how much chromium is needed to make a stainless.

We've never seen a material so well balanced.

A bridge between the worlds of PM stainless steel and PM tool steels

It didn't just come from nowhere. It required a special person with a very deep understanding of metallurgy to go against the conventional wisdom of what makes something stainless and tough and what does not. It required a mastery of having a real working understanding of what the elements actually do and adding the perfect amounts without conflict.

Nobody even thought a material like this was even possible until it was made.


Unfortunately, when something is balanced, it's not an extreme, so there's people on different ends of the spectrum that would want something that has more trade-offs whether they are aware of it or not. This is fine, variety is the spice of life.
I personally have a fondness for extreme materials that have significant trade-offs.


When it comes to taking a dump on MagnaCut keep in mind, There's never been a shortage of critics and naysayers throughout every step of MagnaCut coming to market and being available in production knives.

It is a wonder how anything new ever gets made to push innovation, however the endless march of progress goes on and can't stop for people that have endless negative criticism.

I've noticed some folks just like to elevate their opinions by being non-conformists about anything that seems mainstream without any care for objectivity.


Gotta be cool 😎

Bad boys go against convention. 💪


Hope the folks that say MagnaCut is overrated get lots of babes.💘
 
I think it's pretty cool that MagnaCut brings tool steel toughness/edge retention balance into stainless steel territory. That's some genuine innovation. Having used it for a good while in a few knives, I can say it's great stuff in real use.

I don't really understand the need to get bitter about MagnaCut, or any steel for that matter. It usually makes for a fast growing thread though (as I too post in it).
 
It's hard to get "sick" of something that people haven't seen much of yet.

There are almost 400 knives in my collection and only 2 of those were made with Magnacut. 🤷‍♂️

Didn't pay a "premium" for either one of them -- a Magnacut Mule purchased from Spyderco upon release and an "exclusive" Hogue Ritter Auto RSK at a slight discount from MSRP from the sponsoring dealer.
 
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I wouldn't be suprised to see magnacut become the new s30v in coming years. By that I mean the defacto steel option for entry level quality knives, like s30v has been for ever. I would rather have magnacut 63-64 myself.

I don't think CRK would be using it if it didn't have benefits over the steels he used previously. I'd imagine alot of testing went into making that decision
Doubt it, Tim just follows the trends now…
 
matt009au matt009au
Well, a steel is more than it's name, some folks only have a surface level interest in the metallurgy involved which is a damn shame because going deeper unveils of the true magic of materials rather than just looking at steels like trading cards.

MagnaCut is impressive because it changed the industry in how we think about stainless steels.

It was known in the industry that steels like CPM 4V/Vanadis 4 Extra were the "Nexus" of toughness, strength and wear which no stainless could achieve.
Along comes MagnaCut with it's humble 10.7% Cr and it's not only finer in microstructure than Elmax and Vanadis 4 E but tested so corrosion resistant Spyderco put it in their Salt water line.
This went against conventional wisdom of how much chromium is needed to make a stainless.

We've never seen a material so well balanced.

A bridge between the worlds of PM stainless steel and PM tool steels

It didn't just come from nowhere. It required a special person with a very deep understanding of metallurgy to go against the conventional wisdom of what makes something stainless and tough and what does not. It required a mastery of having a real working understanding of what the elements actually do and adding the perfect amounts without conflict.

Nobody even thought a material like this was even possible until it was made.


Unfortunately, when something is balanced, it's not an extreme, so there's people on different ends of the spectrum that would want something that has more trade-offs whether they are aware of it or not. This is fine, variety is the spice of life.
I personally have a fondness for extreme materials that have significant trade-offs.


When it comes to taking a dump on MagnaCut keep in mind, There's never been a shortage of critics and naysayers throughout every step of MagnaCut coming to market and being available in production knives.

It is a wonder how anything new ever gets made to push innovation, however the endless march of progress goes on and can't stop for people that have endless negative criticism.

I've noticed some folks just like to elevate their opinions by being non-conformists about anything that seems mainstream without any care for objectivity.


Gotta be cool 😎

Bad boys go against convention. 💪


Hope the folks that say MagnaCut is overrated get lots of babes.💘
can confirm we do get lots of babes
 
can confirm we do get lots of babes
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"Buy what you like", well, sort of... Seems like EVERY new release is damn magnacut, so not many options if you want a new knife. And because it's the latest fad, manufacturers are charging a big premium for it.
I think the biggest gripe is that they aren't offering a "regular" steel option on most new designs. I'd much rather have CPM-154 for 30%+ less.
I'll pay a 30% premium to have a blade in Magnacut, even if it's not nearly that high.

Not having to worry about rust after a day fishing is well worth it to me. Having a blade that doesn't chip as easily is worth it to to me. Not to mention that it's really easy to sharpen. I haven't purchased a CPM-154 or S30V knife in years.
 
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