anyone else tired of s30v?

Most (all?) of the newer "super steels" out on the market since S30V hit the scene aren't really "better" steels. They just provide different balances of the 3 things we look for in a steel: Corrosion Resistance, Wear Resistance, and Toughness. We, the consumers, are then led to believe that these steels are in fact superior altogether when really they're just different. Can anybody tell me of a steel that is more wear resistant, tougher, and more corrosion resistant than S30V all at the same time? I don't think it exists. When you come across a newer steel, keep in mind that the makers couldn't have improved it in one or more of these areas without losing out in another area. It's all a compromise. Personally, I like the balance I get out of S30V in the three areas mentioned. I also like S35VN even though it doesn't hold an edge as long because I like knowing that it's got a little more toughness.

So I guess, based on that, that I'm really not tired of S30V at all. I'm really much more tired of being told that steels that are just different are actually flat out better.

Nothing against any other steels. I like them all, they're just all different and suited to different types of knives/tools.
 
S30V isn't my favorite steel. I actually really like 154cm though. D2 is up there as well. Would love to try M4 or even M394.
 
I'm personally de-evolving when it comes to blade steels. Went from S30V on Sebenza's to D2 on BM's and A2 on fixed blades. And FWIW, I definitely need to get laid.

Prof.
 
singularity35 said:
I wonder if the OP will still be bored if his knives didn't have tang stamps of the steel type...
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It's not the stamping it's the performance in the task I've given it, s30v will perform great but I'm seeing in replies that in a sense I'm expecting a car to fly...........the reason I do have so many blades in that material is that the blade shapes and profiles I'm attracted to come in that

I have had great luck in m390, elmax, and m4, but the problem is finding blade shapes that work well for what I need
 
yoko said:
It's not the stamping it's the performance in the task I've given it, s30v will perform great but I'm seeing in replies that in a sense I'm expecting a car to fly...........the reason I do have so many blades in that material is that the blade shapes and profiles I'm attracted to come in that

I have had great luck in m390, elmax, and m4, but the problem is finding blade shapes that work well for what I need
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I guess you are cutting masking materials for auto painting. Have a folder maker do the profile you want in a steel you want and you will be happy again, laid or not!
 
I'm not tired of S30V at all, but I've got a weird attitude towards blade steels. If I like a knife, and the blade is made from something that I consider "good" (in folders this usually means 154CM and up), I'm happy.

Most of my experience with S30V is from using flat ground Spydercos, and I really can't complain. In fact, my favourite folder (original Mini Manix) has an S30V blade.
 
Professor said:
I'm personally de-evolving when it comes to blade steels. Went from S30V on Sebenza's to D2 on BM's and A2 on fixed blades. And FWIW, I definitely need to get laid.

Prof.
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LMAO!!! Dont we all......

Anywho, S30V is one of my fav steels. I will be comparing s30v to 154cm, vg10, m390, m4, s110v, etc. in the near future to fig out which one best fits my personal needs. Maybe then I'll find out that I dont really care for s30v as much as I do others.....who knows. However, based on current experience, I can't see it ever being a steel I will not like or try to steer clear of.
 
I used to get excited about unique and super steels. .....but I've come to realize.....As long as blade shape is use able for the task and heat treat is decent.......what steel for my normal cutting tool uses doesn't really matter.

That said i still like super steels.......but it's a non issue for me.
 
My EDCs are S30V, S35VN & CPM154. Good enough for me as 2-3 minutes on the Sharpmaker or paper wheels and they are good to go. I don't get tired of PB&J or oatmeal either. :)
 
I like S30V. I also like VG10, 154CM, and D2. I've yet to "tire" of any of them.

But... I also get GREAT performance out of my CV, ATS-34, or 440C slip joints. And I've got a couple of $10 Rough Riders in 440A that are more than sharp enough for most tasks and simple as falling off a log to resharpen.

<HERESY!! Neal sits back and watches the steel snobs writhing on the floor in agony.>
 
IMightBeWrong said:
Most (all?) of the newer "super steels" out on the market since S30V hit the scene aren't really "better" steels. They just provide different balances of the 3 things we look for in a steel: Corrosion Resistance, Wear Resistance, and Toughness. We, the consumers, are then led to believe that these steels are in fact superior altogether when really they're just different. Can anybody tell me of a steel that is more wear resistant, tougher, and more corrosion resistant than S30V all at the same time? I don't think it exists. When you come across a newer steel, keep in mind that the makers couldn't have improved it in one or more of these areas without losing out in another area. It's all a compromise. Personally, I like the balance I get out of S30V in the three areas mentioned. I also like S35VN even though it doesn't hold an edge as long because I like knowing that it's got a little more toughness.

So I guess, based on that, that I'm really not tired of S30V at all. I'm really much more tired of being told that steels that are just different are actually flat out better.

Nothing against any other steels. I like them all, they're just all different and suited to different types of knives/tools.
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Good point!

Also, in recent time we have seen speciality steels become more available, less expensive, and better-refined (with a simultaneous expansion of knowledge base via this forum and the internet in general). Someone doing tons of marine usage will likely benefit from H1, someone chopping a tree down will likely enjoy CPM-3V, someone making statues out of cardboard could find M390 to best fit the bill, and someone looking super easy sharpening with serious retention at an insanely low angle on a kitchen knife may like the 'paper' steels.

S30V is one of the balanced performers for general usage, but with the availability of many speciality steels, it's not uncommon for a less common steel to be the best match for the usage and user.
 
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