Anyone else want to see the ZT0500 MUDD brought back?

I like the MUDD, I have 2 and the Ti Tyrade is nice as well but totally different knives. The MUDD is not something I would want to EDC but it is IMO a great knife for a pack or BOB.
 
The MUDD I had a couple years ago was as solid a folder as I could ever want. I used it outside as it was meant to be used, HARD. Cut stems from my boxwoods, azalea's, and some crabapple sprouts, even had to dig some briars out of the ground and then cut down into the dirt to cut their roots. The MUDD lived up to its name alright. I never did have any blade play issues with it, and the lock was always solid. The next one I get will hopefully be my last!
 
I managed to score one off the market with almost pristine condition.
The overall black matte finish with the G-10, big yet light construction and easy to open and close but my biggest shopping point is the Neoprene sealing that makes the name MUDD. I wish the incoming ZT line will have this feature.

It does cut down a lot of trapped dirt in the bearings.:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Thread update. I was FINALLY able to get a MUDD from the fourth dealer I purchased it from. Two separate dealers said they had it in stock and didn't, the third charged a $50 or so premium and yelled at me for asking to see if the blade was centered, but the fourth delivered and it should be on its way Friday or Monday. So expect a review maybe Wednes or Thurs, although like all of my reviews, it'll be pointless because (A) the knife has been out for years already and (B) you couldn't buy it if you wanted to.
 
This is one folder I'd like Kershaw/ZT to reintroduce and perhaps intro s30v steel. I've been more impressed with my s30v zt301 compared with my zt500's cm154.
 
I've got other ZT knives, but never even handled a MUDD. Anyone have some good pics they could post?
 
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I love my MUDD. I would like to see it in a different steel, M4 perhaps.

Andy
 
Yeah, the Mudd was sort of different than all other ZTs. It's just a straight up hard use knife, where almost all (or all?) of the ZTs are combat knives.

Sorry about the umnumzaan. Looks a lot like the MUDD's pivot and I know CRK collaborated with the Hawks on it.

Well, I gave up on trying to find the MUDD and just picked up a Tyrade classic at a gun show today, and my RAM should be in tomorrow, so I guess I'm good for a few months.

I'm not sure if it was a collaboration, he did put o-rings on the thumbstuds. That's the extent as far as I know.
 
I'm not sure if it was a collaboration, he did put o-rings on the thumbstuds. That's the extent as far as I know.

Well, apparently they talked about it some. G&G Hawk(s) apparently hang out with Chris Reeves on a frequent basis. There's a thread somewhere here.

But you're right, this probably couldn't be called a collab in the traditional sense. But there was an exchange of ideas.

Interestingly, I remember one of the Hawks saying that they never even noticed the pivot when they were playing with Umnum prototypes. I think it's the thing people notice right away.

I might pick up an umnumzaan down the road since they'll probably be comparable in price to a new MUDD in a few years.
 
If any of your are sitting on the fence on this one, trust me, go get the ebayed one now (I also have nothing to do with the ebay MUDD). Believe me, this knife is one big PITA to get ahold of, and if you wait a year you'll be paying $250 for a LNIB one instead of 150-180 for a NIB today.
 
Glad you got it AM. I believe you will like it once you get it in hand and use it awhile. One interesting fact about this knife is that Kershaw used 7075 aluminum alloy for the frame. This is the toughest aluminum available, above 6061 that is used in most other frames. From Wiki;

"Aluminium alloy 7075 is an aluminium alloy, with zinc as the primary alloying element. It is strong, with a strength comparable to many steels."
 
Glad you got it AM. I believe you will like it once you get it in hand and use it awhile. One interesting fact about this knife is that Kershaw used 7075 aluminum alloy for the frame. This is the toughest aluminum available, above 6061 that is used in most other frames. From Wiki;

"Aluminium alloy 7075 is an aluminium alloy, with zinc as the primary alloying element. It is strong, with a strength comparable to many steels."

Wow, did not know that. I had just assumed all aluminum was pretty weak (by steel standards).
 
Yes I want the MUDD back, but not as the MUDD.
The sealed pivot idea was neat, but in the end I removed the nylon washers and liked the knife much more with an open pivot (Also, blade retention was next to nothing, and the blade would not snap back into the handle with the extra friction from the washers. Without the washers it would mostly close on its own).

I like the design on its own merits without the sealed pivot. If those nylon washers were made of something more sturdy the MUDD would be a better prybar than any other folding knife out there. You could probably get the best of both worlds with ball bearings instead of washers.
 
Give it a CPM 3-V blade with 1" diameter phosphor bronze washers and I would be all over that thing.
 
I'd love to see the 0500 be re-released... awesome knife. Maybe not the most practical to carry everyday around town, but for camping and outdoors work it is an awesome folder.
 
I know what you guys are saying about the seals, and for me personally, I could care less. But what makes G&GH the most promising folder designers in the world right now is that they are constantly experimenting and creating--the MUDD could have been better in many ways if it weren't the result of one of their experiments, but at the same time, it fills a unique gap in the market that it wouldn't without its flagship feature.

I bought it just for my love of G&GH design and the hawk lock. Expect a nice comparison of the Little Boy with the Fat Man and we'll see what the pros and cons of each were.
 
The seals are made of urethane which is bendable and stretchable. For the 2 years I used my MUDD hard, the seals NEVER let anything into the pivot, or the lock (lock is sealed with urethane also). There was a video that showed Grant Hawk burying the knife in sand, uncovering it, and it opened/closed as smooth as a babies butt. In the video he did this not once, but 5 times. Results were the same as the first try.

I never noticed any drag on closing the blade, BUT it may be because I keep the pivot very tight on my knives. I can open them, but most other folks can't!:D
 
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