Anyone ever been embarrassed about fellow knife enthusiasts?

[razorsdescent]

Look at the belly on this guy,...Tell me if you think he seems to have physical limitations that would limit the effective wielding of a knife, after watching this video on u-tube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8_qv4jplEM

uhhh bad example bro......... lynn c thompson is a fat bag of smegma whos so full of s*** it comes out his mouth. anyone can mince up a peice of cardboard. i think he is just a high paid mall ninja. im not trying to start up with the cold steel hating just think you might be proving soupahs point



this is what scary looks like btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EqrKy1d0sM

moderators please feel free to delete my post if it seems out of line.

 

[cutter17]

Modern society has shaped our views of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. Just look at some of the ads in magazines, or commercials on TV, and what do you see?, you see beautiful people, trim and slim people, living it up and having a great time. Unfortunately a lot of folks have "bought-in" to that perspective and think that it is the ultimate goal to achieve.

I agree that it is a sad state of affairs when we start judging people, or placing value on people by their looks/weight.

I am 6' X 230 lbs, and every weight chart I have seen places me in the overweight/obese category. I most certaintly DO NOT feel obese, because I have come to the realization that you can take me for what I am, and if being larger and heavier than you "shocks" you, then learn to live with it.

We're here, we're big, and we ain't going nowhere!! LIVE WITH IT!!

 

[CWL]

Let me remind everyone that the original colonists, Mountain Men and Settlers from our past weren't lean and mean. They tended to carry some extra weight, especially as winter was approaching. Yet these men could out-stalk, out-shoot and handle knives and axes better than most of us.

The average American GI that won WWII would have been considered chubby by today's standards -yet these men had the courage and determination to fight and die in order to protect other people's freedom.

Yes, I do get a chuckle when I see a mall-ninja dressed in full camo and SOCOM t-shirts (XXXL), but they are not the majority.

 

[springman]

uhhh bad example bro......... lynn c thompson is a fat bag of smegma whos so full of s*** it comes out his mouth. anyone can mince up a peice of cardboard. i think he is just a high paid mall ninja. im not trying to start up with the cold steel hating just think you might be proving soupahs point



this is what scary looks like btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EqrKy1d0sM

moderators please feel free to delete my post if it seems out of line.

Yep...I like your youtube of Thompson much better, Lynn Thompson is bad!

 

[springman]

uhhh bad example bro......... lynn c thompson is a fat bag of smegma whos so full of s*** it comes out his mouth. anyone can mince up a peice of cardboard. i think he is just a high paid mall ninja. im not trying to start up with the cold steel hating just think you might be proving soupahs point



this is what scary looks like btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EqrKy1d0sM

moderators please feel free to delete my post if it seems out of line.

Actually,.. all kidding aside,.. I’m not promoting him or Cold Steel, What I’m trying to express is that a man of his size, with some weight can in fact wield a knife without a problem…

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

That's an AMERICAN thing, not a knife people thing.

 

[topher]

I've seen these knife guys at the sportsmans' shows, talked to them at the store counters while buying knives, and personally know some that are casual acquaintances. Almost all have big guts (even the younger guys) & poor muscle tone. The knife clipped in the pocket almost looks a little ridiculous, since the users seem to have physical limitations that would limit the effective wielding of a knife. My wife has met some of them occasionally and made the same independent observation. I'm not talking about the old timers, which seem to be in better shape than the youngins.

I know exactly what you mean, regarding being embarrassed by some knife collectors. But, I have to admit, my embarrassment doesn't come from the appearance of knife collectors, or their tendency (real or imagined) to be overweight.

No, what embarrasses me is people who perpetuate the "knife is a weapon" crap. The ones who love big, impractical knives that are "tactical", with lots of serrations, tanto tips, and black paint on the blades. Who are deathly afraid that at any moment someone is going to threaten or assault them with some non-firearm weapon that will be defeated by their big self-defense knife (and their lack of training with said knife). And who give non-knife collecting people the impression that everyone who carries a pocket knife is a psycho just waiting for an opportunity to stab someone.

The vast majority of people who carry a knife will never use it in any sort of fight or altercation. Most will, however, use their knife hundreds if not thousands of times for various cutting tasks. In fact, a knife actually makes a very poor self defense 'weapon'.

Unfortunately, the knife collectors who think of a knife as a weapon first tend to give the general public lots of reasons and excuses to think of knives as dangerous weapons, instead of the very useful tools that they are. And that negatively impacts my ability to carry a knife, and that annoys me.

 

[C.S. Graves]

knives are a hobby, working out is a hobby.
everyone only get 24hrs in a day and when ppl have jobs, families, and possibly other hobbies, sometimes going to the gym consistantly just isnt a priority or possibility. i enjoy keeping fit and my job definitely helps out, if one sits at a desk for 8, 10, 12 hrs a day, sometimes staying in shape is hard.

Woohoo! I feel a little less bad about my own sorry physique now! :thumbup:

 

[Benjamin Liu]

Unfortunately, the knife collectors who think of a knife as a weapon first tend to give the general public lots of reasons and excuses to think of knives as dangerous weapons, instead of the very useful tools that they are. And that negatively impacts my ability to carry a knife, and that annoys me.

It isn't knife collectors that do that, it is the media/government/educational system propaganda.

They've been at it long before "tactical" knives became popular with some knife collectors, and certainly before people started posting on knife-related forums.

I also don't know where people go to see all these guys with "tactical" knives making all knife collectors look bad, or overweight knife collectors. I occasionally see guys with folders clipped to their pockets or one in a belt case like with the Buck 110, but in my everyday life I don't see these people posters like to complain about.

Where does all this stuff take place? Not that I'd want to hang out there, but maybe just stop by to see what all the fuss is about.

BTW, people who use American tantos have found uses for them that have nothing to do with fighting. I like using the 2nd point as a smaller blade.

 

[bshansen]

First off, let me say that this post makes me sound like a jerk and a narcissist,

You think?

Something has been bothering me lately, so I'll come out and say it: I can't help but notice that lot of the guys I've met over the years who are into knives are overweight slobs. I'm starting to be embarrassed to admit that I like and collect knives- not because I'm embarrassed of the hobby, but of the mental image a "knife enthusiast" label conjures up.

Easy remedy: don't admit ANYTHING!

The knife clipped in the pocket almost looks a little ridiculous, since the users seem to have physical limitations that would limit the effective wielding of a knife.

How much "knife-wielding" is nescessary to cut open a package or cut off a piece of salami? You think all people who carry a knife want to knife fighters?

Anybody else notice this, or am I just imagining things?

Yes you are. But a tinfoil hat will help!

ps- sorry to offend anybody here who is overweight, I'm just making an observation.

Not offended at all, but others might be! Not that the essence in your post: "I think you are fat, dumb, wear stained clothes and make me look bad in your company, but please don't be offended. Just making an observation!" would offend anybody......

 

[razorsdescent]

Actually,.. all kidding aside,.. I’m not promoting him or Cold Steel, What I’m trying to express is that a man of his size, with some weight can in fact wield a knife without a problem…

well i understand your point but i think you went about it wrong. i used to have a very good friend who was over 6 foot and weighed in excess of 230 pounds, he works as a bmw mechanic and could probably tear the head off some of the scrawny people i have met, im not going to argue that just because your overweight you cant fight, i think the OP which was more concerned with the falacy of being proficient or at least trying or pretending to be proficient with survival skills while the body isnt willing or able to handle a more extreme situation.

when you watch speed shootng competitions there are some people i would condsider overweight but they scoot FAST and they hit every target they seem pretty proficient to me, but i think that is the exception that proves the rule.... America has a weight problem and when people say that they are comfortable with being overweight and out of shape thats were the problem lies, watch a strongman competition they certainly dont look like underwear models but theyre not falling out all over the place either.

 

[James_Terrio]

Actually... all kidding aside... What I’m trying to express is that a man of his size, with some weight can in fact wield a knife without a problem…

What are you talking about? Anyone with an arm and a hand can wield a knife. It's not that difficult.

I've seen skinny little upstarts no more than 130# cleanly slice the dickens out of water bottles, etc. And I've seen big, chunky, if-it-ain't-fried-it-ain't-food redneck-lookin' guys do the same.

I'm 6'4" and 205#; BMI indexes may tell me I'm overweight but screw it, I feel good and can usually move around real quick at the tender young age of 38. Just not for very long

When I was 260#, forget it, I got winded opening a bag of chips

Whether or not I was a fat ba$tard had no bearing on my ability to abuse a side of beef or make a mess of cardboard.

I agree that it is a sad state of affairs when we start judging people, or placing value on people by their looks/weight.

Just to play devil's advocate ....

Would you hire a phys ed teacher who was wider than he was tall?

Would you trust a woman in a loincloth and 6 months of jungle-funk to sell you a house?

Would you agree to watch a suitcase at the airport for a bearded man in a turban?

Would you date a woman who was amazingly nice, but astoundingly hideous? How bout if she was ridiculously wealthy? (switch the gender, and this one gets the ladies in an uproar... how many attractive, smart women date fat, ugly, broke guys?!?)

Go ahead, y'all tell me you don't judge people on appearance.

Again, just playing devil's advocate, please don't take anything personal.

 

[cutter17]

It is still a sad state of affairs anyway you want to look at it. The worth of a person should not be tied up in how they look. Now I'm not naive enough to believe that it doesn't happen, cause it does. But I stand fast by the fact that we, as a society, have been manipulated into believing that unless we look like the very small percentage of models seen in magazines or on the tv, we don't have the same amount of worth.

No problems on taking anything personal James. A devils advocate is not always welcomed, but is helpful in seeing the whole picture at times!:thumbup:

 

[filerunner]

There are a lot of different people around, thats for sure. Some people are fat and some people are stupid. Usually the fat people can lose weight if they really want to but the stupid people are just stuck.

 

[4W4K3]

I didn't read through all of this thread, and I doubt I need to. I'll just say some of my best friends are far from trendy and chic', they don't all smell like fresh daisies and some of them don't even have college degrees. But they're good people, with strong morals and great personalities. Some things they do I might not agree with, but I doubt they approve of everything I do either.

Enjoy your hobby for what it is; a fun way to grow and experience new things for SELF gratification at the very least.

 

[Tony8179]

I don't get embarrassed about people's appearance. What does embarrass me about certain knife nuts is when someone will give advice to someone or talk about something they do not understand. When people give wrong advice because it makes them think they sound smart? Man that just bothers me! I also don't really like hearing about guys talking about the best way to kill with a knife or how to cut someone's throat properly. The stigma on knives is already huge. When people see someone carrying around a rediculous EDC and talking about stabbing, killing, cutting someone it just makes that stigma grow. Some people just need to learn to zip their lip.

 

[Ed T]

I was so worried you were going to out me for yanking my junk in public,,,

 

[Bob W]

... and all knife collectors chew with their mouths open and drive minivans. How embarrassing.

 

[gak]

Shame on all the overweight knife collectors... you'd never see overweight people anywhere else in life.

 

[C.S. Graves]

Hilarious and strangely hypnotic. That guy could probably shoot anti-tank rounds as easily and not lose his balance to the recoil!