Anyone like this knife?

Kevin,

When ANY maker starts believing their own hype, and raises their prices very significantly in a short space of time. They climb out on limb that can become awkward for them and their customers, who have overpaid for their knives. It is very hard for them to correct their pricing (read lower) to a more realistic level, in line with the actual quality of their product. What goes up, can come down. Anyone who chooses to ignore that reality, does so at their own peril.

P
 
Peter,

You just need to come to your senses my good man. None of us here had a waking clue until Kevin showed up to take us by the hand and show us the true path. So just do whatever Kevin says, okay? Really, that's all that's required - is it really asking so much? If you would simply follow his edicts, then he wouldn't have to keep track of the threads where he has perceived that you have offended them and publicly air your transgressions (usually in an unrelated thread, long after the fact, but hey...)

Roger
 
ptgdvc said:
Kevin,

I have not said anything negative about the knife or maker.

I made a point of discouraging any possible negative comments at the start.

Any percieved slights are a figment of your imagination.

P
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So of all the knives on the net or in the world, you just randomly picked that one and posted it with a Kumbaya ruleset? Perhaps if you actually explain your personal motivation for posting that particular knife, it will make it easier for all of us. If you think its a great knife, just say so. If you think it's a bad knife and you went out of your way to show it and tried to save face by doing the old "throw it up there and let others be the bad guy," then I just personally think it was in poor taste. I think if you post a knife and ask for only good comments, you should at least start the thread off by communicating your feelings on the knife.
 
I like a lot of Peter's work. I don't understand the inspiration behind that specific piece, but it does look to me like he knows what he's doing.

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I actually thought about buying the Nachez inspired piece, but budget and incoming steel won out. His Searles piece is a very good example.

Take a look at some of the antique bowie books and you'll see what the maker was getting at with the original knife in this thread. A real hybrid of mid to late 19th Century work.

Stephen
 
I know Peter pretty well and enjoy looking at his table at shows. He can make a clean knife with the best of em but generally makes replicas of the originals and includes the flaws as well. The "makers of old" didnt have the tools we enjoy today. They sure had style though. I dont know the story on this particular knife. Looks to be just a Pioneer Bowie and is priced to sell I bet.
 
RogerP said:
Peter,

You just need to come to your senses my good man. None of us here had a waking clue until Kevin showed up to take us by the hand and show us the true path. So just do whatever Kevin says, okay? Really, that's all that's required - is it really asking so much? If you would simply follow his edicts, then he wouldn't have to keep track of the threads where he has perceived that you have offended them and publicly air your transgressions (usually in an unrelated thread, long after the fact, but hey...)

Roger
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Thanks Roger! :)

I am coming to my senses!

I feel much better now that you have explained it to me. :thumbup:

P
 
David Schott said:
So of all the knives on the net or in the world, you just randomly picked that one and posted it with a Kumbaya ruleset?

YES.

Perhaps if you actually explain your personal motivation for posting that particular knife, it will make it easier for all of us.

There is no "personal motivation".

If you think its a great knife, just say so. If you think it's a bad knife and you went out of your way to show it and tried to save face by doing the old "throw it up there and let others be the bad guy,"

I am trying to get some people to actually think for themselves. I am not sure how anyone can be "A Bad Guy" if they honor my initial request to avoid negative comments.

then I just personally think it was in poor taste. I think if you post a knife and ask for only good comments, you should at least start the thread off by communicating your feelings on the knife.

You may think whatever you like.
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Here is the link to the original listing. Read the reasoning behind the design of the Combination Bowie by the maker. It is enlightening.

http://www.bladegallery.com/shopexd.asp?id=2819

P
 
Would this thread have taken the same direction if a different knife (from the same maker's bladegallery page) was featured?

Random?
I think not.

A set up?
You decide.
 
I don't know this maker, but in my opinion this entire thread is a cheap shot.
Jim Treacy
 
I don't get it either.

One one hand it looks like Peter posted a knife that would normally get ripped apart, asking for only nice comments... knowing that most folks probably wouldn't like it without knowing the reasoning for its design.

Most folks here wouldn't like it that much, but would be much more open to the design knowing it's history. Correct?

On the other hand, I think maybe you just need to get out more Peter... Empty nest syndrome is hitting you hard buddy!!! ;) :D

I read Bruce's post and never thought of it that way. I always thought Bromley's work was kind of rushed because of the flaws, but if it's intentional that's different.

Daniel Winkler is a prime example of a maker that CAN make a super clean knife, but often leaves texture, file marks, A-symmetry as PART of the character of the knife... and very much INTENTIONALLLY.

Wait, what are we talking about??? ;)
 
Handle and guard looks to overpowing in relationship to the blade. Clip looks good. Wonder what it feels like in the hand?
 
This tread is a disappointment by every measure.

A few of my VERY good freinds have made comments that are making me cringe.

Hey Peter, where are the 'unvarnished opinions' you so adamantly polled for? JFC, what a ruse THAT was.

Glad I have so much time on my other job nowadays. I may have gotten sucked in...

Coop
 
Was the intent of this post to start a feces tempest? The knife appears to be very well executed, but is apparently specifically patterned after a historical piece that has some "flaws" in its proportion by the standards of modern custom knives. I know that there are many collectors who love the original Sheffield bowies, but there were many knives made in England during that period which, IMHO, look like something that one would find in the display case at a truck stop next to the cheap CB radios. This was particularly the case with ones that had whimsical frontiersy slogans etched onto the blades and pommel work such as the infamous alligator/horse design. This knife appears to be very well executed, but very few, if any of the folks in here are going to like a knife with a skinny handle of what appears to be whitetail antler (I may be wrong) and an out of proportion guard, regardless of how historically accurate it is and how nice the blade profile and fit and finish are. I am one of those and this applies to some other "antique" bowie reproductions by other makers whose work I admire greatly. These knives may have looked "right" in the mid 1800's, but now.......well, you know what I mean. I think that the whole prupose of the "kumbaya" thing was NOT to stop stating our opinions, but maybe to say what you specifically don't like as opposed to saying that a piece looks like a polished turd and that the maker should take up macrame. With that said, makers should understand that if you want encourgement and technical advice, you should post your stuff in the makers section. If you want to know what a specific group of collectors are looking for and how you can improve the look of your knives so that folks who are comfortable paying a premium for good work will buy them, then you should also post in here.
 
jdm61 said:
Was the intent of this post to start a feces tempest? The knife appears to be very well executed, but is apparently specifically patterned after a historical piece that has some "flaws" in its proportion by the standards of modern custom knives. I know that there are many collectors who love the original Sheffield bowies, but there were many knives made in England during that period which, IMHO, look like something that one would find in the display case at a truck stop next to the cheap CB radios. This was particularly the case with ones that had whimsical frontiersy slogans etched onto the blades and pommel work such as the infamous alligator/horse design. This knife appears to be very well executed, but very few, if any of the folks in here are going to like a knife with a skinny handle of what appears to be whitetail antler (I may be wrong) and an out of proportion guard, regardless of how historically accurate it is and how nice the blade profile and fit and finish are. I am one of those and this applies to some other "antique" bowie reproductions by other makers whose work I admire greatly. These knives may have looked "right" in the mid 1800's, but now.......well, you know what I mean. I think that the whole prupose of the "kumbaya" thing was NOT to stop stating our opinions, but maybe to say what you specifically don't like as opposed to saying that a piece looks like a polished turd and that the maker should take up macrame. With that said, makers should understand that if you want encourgement and technical advice, you should post your stuff in the makers section. If you want to know what collectors are looking for and how you can improve the look of your knives so that folks who are comfortable paying a premium for good work will buy them, then you should also post in here.
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Dang Joe! I am seriously impressed.

First rate post, imho. :thumbup:

P
 
Hey, even I learn....lol. I posted a knife a while back that had a rather unusual type of stabilized wood for the handle. The folks in here said "ummmm......nah" I was a bit disappointed, but primarily because the damn block of wood cost around $40....:eek: BUT, the person who helped me post the picture also posted one or two others from my website and several of the guys in here told me that if I made more that looked like a couple of the other knives, then I would have a much easier time selling them. Suffice to say that I have 5 or 6 in the works that are similar to designs that the collectors in here have positively commented on.:D
 
I have an auto by Peter that is one of my favorites.We have been friends for a few years and his table is one that i always like to look at.nice man also and I do not approve of this thread and how it came about.
I have been collecting knives for a lot of years,and I can honestly say,I do not love EVERY knife that a maker makes.
But Peter always has something for sale that catches my fancy.
Randy
 
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