Are CPM ( Powder Steels ) More prone to chipping?

[BG42EDGE]

Gator asked:

how do you even know all the hits in your search results were actually REPORTING chipping issues...

Because I've spent many hours reading many, many pages of hits. Have you?

 

[BG42EDGE]

Perhaps we should turn to science, rather than BG42's obsession with numbers that can, as I believe I've demonstrated, come out however you want. You keep talking about reading the results. Find me an actual person that has had issues with S30V chipping. Can you do that? Or are you going to continue relying on your hearsay reports.

Here's the spec sheet on S30V.

http://faq.customtacticals.com/datasheets/s30v.pdf

Read that one. Particularly the parts where they actually test it for transverse toughness and edge retention. I think that will be more relevant to the OP's question.

Now you're going to try to tell us that Crucible is an unbiased source??

That's like asking the oil companies if the Gulf Oil Spill caused any REAL problems.

 

[Steel130]

Sure.

As I said, Google "ATS-34 steel chip" You'll get this: "About 433,000 results (0.11 seconds)"



And again, you have to read them.

For example, take a careful look at every entry on the first page and see how many complaints there actually are about ATS-34 chipping.......fact is, the complaints will usually be about S30V chipping and ATS-34 NOT chipping.

That's why you have to read them.

For one google search is not a controlled enough environment to say, as fact, or in general, that S30V is always prone to be a steel that chips easily. I for one havnt seen complaints about S30V since I started using this forum a year ago. Matter of fact I have heard more complaints on D2 chipping than S30V. Google search and random forums do not provide concrete enough evidence. There are too many variables, was it due to: poor heat treat, hitting a rock, hitting steel, dropping the blade on concrete, hitting a bone during skinning, poor edge geometry ect. To prove S30V is inconclusively a chippy steel it would have to undergo controlled tests directly against other steels. Were all is equal. RC, same heat treat, same edge geometry ect.

 

[BG42EDGE]

As much as I love you guys, I don't have time to keep answering the same questions over and over again.......so I won't.

But you guys have fun.

I'm sure S30V is a good steel, just not one that I'm ready to buy.

 

[hardheart]

Steel130, you should be able to close the thread yourself. A full third of the posts have not actually provided information and only provided supposition, guesswork, incorrect information, and BS.

 

[crimsonfalcon07]

Now you're going to try to tell us that Crucible is an unbiased source??

That's like asking the oil companies if the Gulf Oil Spill caused any REAL problems.

Wow. Just wow.

I see you're giving us yet more evidence that you, shall we say, may have exaggerated about actually reading the results.

A spec sheet is not the same as an assertion. If they published a spec sheet with tests that couldn't be duplicated by a third party, they'd have all kinds of issues rather quickly. You want to commit to calling them liars and saying that they didn't perform the tests or lied about the results?

 

[Steel130]

Steel130, you should be able to close the thread yourself. A full third of the posts have not actually provided information and only provided supposition, guesswork, incorrect information, and BS.

Yah I am going to lock it down. I am kinda agitated. As much as I want to learn this metallurgy it seems that wont be possible with constant repetitive arguing from one person. Thank you to those who did try to offer constructive info. I wish there was a chat room here.