Are knife guys like gun guys?

Billy The Hungry said:
Your friend has never fired a course with a Heckler and Koch or Walther, haha.

I like most knife brands for different reasons.
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I enjoyed my USP but traded it off during a caliber consolidation and dont really miss it. I have shot friends walthers but never fell in love. What am I missing?
 
DMG said:
I enjoyed my USP but traded it off during a caliber consolidation and dont really miss it. I have shot friends walthers but never fell in love. What am I missing?
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For some Walthers . . . not much. For the PPQ/PDP, you're missing the best factory trigger available in a striker fired gun (and better than most aftermarket triggers for a lot of the competition).
 
The new Walthers are nice. Lots of options for grip adjustments on the PPQ and IMO very good trigger, with much improved from the previous models short reset.
 
DMG said:
I enjoyed my USP but traded it off during a caliber consolidation and dont really miss it. I have shot friends walthers but never fell in love. What am I missing?
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Maybe you aren't missing anything. My duty pistol is a Glock and I carry my Glock off duty too. However, I hate Glock ergos. I shoot Walther's much better. And I personally feel they have much better triggers.

I suppose for me it's ergonomics, but it's a big deal to me. Glocks without a beavertail chew my hand up. And any Glock with a grip size smaller than a 17 means I have less purchase on the weapon. My duty weapon is currently my Glock 19 until I can get a 17. Until then, I use X Grips on my mags (I use Glock 17 mags).

YMMV
 
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DMG said:
I enjoyed my USP but traded it off during a caliber consolidation and dont really miss it. I have shot friends walthers but never fell in love. What am I missing?
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rhino said:
For some Walthers . . . not much. For the PPQ/PDP, you're missing the best factory trigger available in a striker fired gun (and better than most aftermarket triggers for a lot of the competition).
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Something that bugs me with a lot of guns is that stock triggers are rarely good. The accepted reasoning within the gun community is that heavier trigger pulls are a safety thing and companies want to hedge their bets against potential legal issues. I don't know how true that is but the result is unchanged. Very few trgiggers feel the way I want out of the box. As much as customization can be fun, I don't always enjoy buying a project versus a finished product.

I don't have experience with the PDP but the PPQ and older P99 are exceptions in this regard. They have noticeably better stock triggers. The P99 is interesting because it replicated classic DA/SA with a striker. The initial double action pull was better than a lot of hammer-fired guns. The single action pull was nicer than the PPQ and the reset was both short and crisp. It also had a decocker without a manual safety switch, which I take to be ideal in an EDC defensive tool. The P99 is discontinued but definitely worth checking out if you see one.

The PPS is another notable Walther. It was arguably "best in class" for the small single-stack nines. The stock trigger isn't exceptional like the PPQ or P99 but it is certainly decent. It shot well and distributed recoil exceptionally well for its size. It also came with three different magazine sizes, each with its own grip extension. That allowed the user to quickly convert between three different grip lengths depending on need. Unfortunately, the emergence of tiny double-stacks like the P365 make it feel a lot less relevant today.
 
I kinda wish I was more like you describe in your first post, then I wouldn't have an entire closet full of different brands of all the toys I collect and I'd have some more money in my pockets :)
 
Chronovore said:
Something that bugs me with a lot of guns is that stock triggers are rarely good. The accepted reasoning within the gun community is that heavier trigger pulls are a safety thing and companies want to hedge their bets against potential legal issues. I don't know how true that is but the result is unchanged. Very few trgiggers feel the way I want out of the box. As much as customization can be fun, I don't always enjoy buying a project versus a finished product.

I don't have experience with the PDP but the PPQ and older P99 are exceptions in this regard. They have noticeably better stock triggers. The P99 is interesting because it replicated classic DA/SA with a striker. The initial double action pull was better than a lot of hammer-fired guns. The single action pull was nicer than the PPQ and the reset was both short and crisp. It also had a decocker without a manual safety switch, which I take to be ideal in an EDC defensive tool. The P99 is discontinued but definitely worth checking out if you see one.

The PPS is another notable Walther. It was arguably "best in class" for the small single-stack nines. The stock trigger isn't exceptional like the PPQ or P99 but it is certainly decent. It shot well and distributed recoil exceptionally well for its size. It also came with three different magazine sizes, each with its own grip extension. That allowed the user to quickly convert between three different grip lengths depending on need. Unfortunately, the emergence of tiny double-stacks like the P365 make it feel a lot less relevant today.
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I have less experience with the Sig P365, but I think its current version it's a better gun than the Walther PPS. Overall, it's easier for me to put bullets where I want then to go with the P365 than the PPS. The PPS is a good gun, though.
 
Bloodloss said:
I'm a gun guy, and I'm a knife guy. When it comes to guns, I have more Glocks than anything else and I will almost exclusively swear by them as defensive pistols. I like Glock pistols, and they have a place in my gun use. I am also bored by Glocks just as much as I am fascinated by them. One thing is for sure I just absolutely crave some range time with 1911's and AR-15's! Then, you know, I must have a big bore revolver for hunting, and a long range bolt action, you know, for some more giggles, and then, of course everyone needs some suppressed 22 action!
I imagine it goes about the same for knives, right? I focused more on guns for a long time, tried to get more into knives but it never worked out until recently. So far, l find myself looking at knives the same way as I did with guns, I want the right knife for the job and I want to experience something new when I find i have an "itch". I can favor a brand, but don't necessarily have to stick with it.
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This dude is my new spirit animal.
 
Glocks are comparable to SAKs- they all look the same and the difference is In the details.

Kabar is like Remington- classic designs, most seem to work, though there are more refined options.
My experience is that knife guys tend to be more “gear oriented” than most gun guys. Anecdotal, of course, but I know quite a few people who buy expensive guns and don’t know the basics about them. I don’t know many people who buy expensive knives without researching deeply before they purchase. Obviously this doesn’t apply to the majority, it’s just my personal experience. I know gun guys who couldn’t care less about their knife, watch, or any other edc stuff they might need. But I don’t know many knife guys who are exclusively into knives and nothing else.

I’m into both, although the higher cost of firearms means most of my experience with higher end guns is living vicariously through you tubers and gun shop owners
 
POCEH KOCEB said:
Makes sense but where do we leave a good old sweeper ?
There is nothing like the barking of a 20” 590A1 shooting green buckshot Olins… :cool::thumbsup:
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I don't know about the green buckshot part, but I wholeheartedly agree with everything else you just said. The 590A1 is a fine shotgun and I wanted one for over 10 years before finally deciding to pay the MSRP at the time to get one. I wanted to go all out with the 20" heavy wall barrel, ghost ring sights, bayonet lug, fixed buttstock, and 9 round capacity. To get anything less would only warrant the Mossberg 500.

Although now that I have one, I wouldn't say no to getting a 590 Special Purpose with the lighter barrel, either with the same ghost ring sights, or a perforated heat shield.
 
Charlie_K said:
I don't know about the green buckshot part, but I wholeheartedly agree with everything else you just said. The 590A1 is a fine shotgun and I wanted one for over 10 years before finally deciding to pay the MSRP at the time to get one. I wanted to go all out with the 20" heavy wall barrel, ghost ring sights, bayonet lug, fixed buttstock, and 9 round capacity. To get anything less would only warrant the Mossberg 500.

Although now that I have one, I wouldn't say no to getting a 590 Special Purpose with the lighter barrel, either with the same ghost ring sights, or a perforated heat shield.
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I disagree - I love my Rem M887 Nitro-Mag Tactical 12gauge. It only holds 7+1, but it doesn't have the pistol grip. I don't like pistol grips on my shotgun.

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Robert and Charlie, I'll agree with both of you... :thumbsup: I, personally like the stock grip much better on a shotgun.
Unfortunately with the 20" barrel this stick will be hard to maneuver around home, not to mentioned that it's too long even with the pistol grip
I got on it right now... Remingtons are very nice guns, from what I shot, I much prefer the 870 Marine edition than the one Robert have,
but I never shot the M877 Nitro Mag and really have no opinion, even very familiar with the specs. As long as you like it and used to it, this is all it matters.
In general, I find Remingtons to be slightly faster to shoot than Mossbergs. There is a learning curve with the Mossbergs in regard how to reload faster
but I'm not intending to shoot competition style with it so it won't matter to me really. I find both guns to be fine shotguns.
Now, truth be told, the 590A1 are heavy, it would be much easier to swing around with some lighter versions, but this was my first shotgun I purchased
long time ago from Gunbroker and it was the only model available, those days, I think I paid something like $360 or so for it, and since I love military stuff I bought it...
The only "mods" that I made was the heatshield I fitted from a lighter version gun, and I got 2 point sling, simply because I got those on all my long guns, I like unification...
Obwiously, I got, I think made by Streamlight, picatinni rail for 45 degrees flashlight mount with a Lumintop, 400lm, wide spreaded beam, light, on it, I don't like more light at home.
Charlie, the "green Olins" are buffered, military supply ( supposed to be) 9 buckshots that are made by Olin corporation.
Good kick and very tight group from this barrel all the way up to around 20 yards, I didn't shoot it further. Walmart used to sell those 5 for $5.
Thank you both for sharing, I really enjoy such conversations, it always worth hearing another gun guy's opinion :thumbsup:
Here is my gun, beat up from being drag in to the truck bed in FL... 🤣



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POCEH KOCEB said:
Robert and Charlie, I'll agree with both of you... :thumbsup: I, personally like the stock grip much better on a shotgun.
Unfortunately with the 20" barrel this stick will be hard to maneuver around home, not to mentioned that it's too long even with the pistol grip
I got on it right now... Remingtons are very nice guns, from what I shot, I much prefer the 870 Marine edition than the one Robert have,
but I never shot the M877 Nitro Mag and really have no opinion, even very familiar with the specs. As long as you like it and used to it, this is all it matters.
In general, I find Remingtons to be slightly faster to shoot than Mossbergs. There is a learning curve with the Mossbergs in regard how to reload faster
but I'm not intending to shoot competition style with it so it won't matter to me really. I find both guns to be fine shotguns.
Now, truth be told, the 590A1 are heavy, it would be much easier to swing around with some lighter versions, but this was my first shotgun I purchased
long time ago from Gunbroker and it was the only model available, those days, I think I paid something like $360 or so for it, and since I love military stuff I bought it...
The only "mods" that I made was the heatshield I fitted from a lighter version gun, and I got 2 point sling, simply because I got those on all my long guns, I like unification...
Obwiously, I got, I think made by Streamlight, picatinni rail for 45 degrees flashlight mount with a Lumintop, 400lm, wide spreaded beam, light, on it, I don't like more light at home.
Charlie, the "green Olins" are buffered, military supply ( supposed to be) 9 buckshots that are made by Olin corporation.
Good kick and very tight group from this barrel all the way up to around 20 yards, I didn't shoot it further. Walmart used to sell those 5 for $5.
Thank you both for sharing, I really enjoy such conversations, it always worth hearing another gun guy's opinion :thumbsup:
Here is my gun, beat up from being drag in to the truck bed in FL... 🤣



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My Rem M887 is the sweetest shooting 12 gauge I have ever shot. Maybe it's the thick pad on the buttstock. Shooting the 3" magnums is a little rough on the shoulder though. It has a 18.5" barrel. I think I paid a little over $400 for it. I saw it in one of my magazines when it first came out and drove straight to Bass Pro Shops and bought mine.
You have a nice looking shotgun there!
 
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