Are "Rambo" type knives practical?

[rustyrazor]

Both of those are great points, and epitomize my idea of what a HH knife should do. It's your last ditch backup for when things just go totally wrong. Yes, most people will never experience those situations, but that doesn't really help you if you ARE one of the unlucky ones that get caught in that scenario. And who in their right mind wouldn't want a knife that contained some of the most important and precious tools to help you survive?

Still waiting for an epic rant about the unimportance of these points... Or did logic and reasoning finally prevail?

 

[TAH]

Still waiting for an epic rant about the unimportance of these points... Or did logic and reasoning finally prevail?

That's just Sam's common sense talking. We certainly don't need any of that in a HH thread.

 

[rustyrazor]

That's just Sam's common sense talking. We certainly don't need any of that in a HH thread.

Lol... Sam was commenting on one of your posts too, so you can take some of the credit for the logical argument in this one.

 

[Sam Wilson]

Still waiting for an epic rant about the unimportance of these points... Or did logic and reasoning finally prevail?

Maybe it's naptime, lol.

That's just Sam's common sense talking. We certainly don't need any of that in a HH thread.

Guys, how seriously can you take a guy that does chin-ups on his knives in his garage?

 

[rustyrazor]

If we're talkin taking people serious based on their actions... Count me out!!! The stuff I've done in the name of a laugh would amaze most average god fearing folks . Sure does keep it interesting though. But I do take my cutlery serious and I'd like to think I've learned a thing or two over the years

 

[Sam Wilson]

If we're talkin taking people serious based on their actions... Count me out!!! The stuff I've done in the name of a laugh would amaze most average god fearing folks . Sure does keep it interesting though. But I do take my cutlery serious and I'd like to think I've learned a thing or two over the years

Lol. It makes for good stories, years later, anyway. What exactly is your area of interest, rustyrazor? As far as cutlery. I'm not familiar with your work.

 

[Lycosa]

Hopefully we can get a post from "Johnny."

 

[stvpourciau]

Anyone seen those Rambo 4 knives?

 

[sh00ter01]

If I can find the explanation that Lile wrote, I will post it. Its very cool.

Sam

Would love to see it if you can find it!

-sh00ter

A quick Google search found me this:

How it came to be:

In the summer of 1981, Sylvester Stallone asked me to design a survival knife that was different to use in his next movie "First Blood".

I have known Sly for some time, having met him through mutual friends, Joe Ellinthorpe and Ray Howser, owners of Pony Express Sports Shop, 17460 Ventura Blvd, Encino, California 91316, and naturally i was pleased and flattered because i had found him to be a gentleman and a very professional person. The result of my efforts is what you see in the above picture and in the movie "First Blood", where the knife is ever prominent in the action packed production by an actor who plays a starring role to perfection, Sylvester Stallone.

The Purpose:

It was not my intent to create just another attractive movie prop, but rather to make one basic tool to do a variety of jobs. So i had to imagine what i would need if i were in an isolated survival situation and could have only one tool to get by with, and i reasoned that it should be a multi purpose knife that would:

1) Have a long cutting edge for cutting shelter materials, firewood and cutting up what i might have to eat.
2) Have a compass in order to hold a true bearing for escape.
3) Have a hollow handle to hold necessities and into which a pole could be fitted to make a spear or gig, as well as being waterproof when capped.
4) Have screwdrivers for working on any gear i had.
5) Have some nylon line for fishing or snares.
6) Have a flat butt for pounding.
7) Have a real saw on the back for cutting small poles for fishing and shelter and making a spear as well as cutting out of the canopy or through the side of a downed aircraft.
8) And last but not least, it must be a dependable offensive or defensive weapon, as the situation might dictate.

The First Blood combat/survival knife incorporates all these features to their fullest.

-sh00ter

 

[rustyrazor]

Lol. It makes for good stories, years later, anyway. What exactly is your area of interest, rustyrazor? As far as cutlery. I'm not familiar with your work.

Mainly focusing on hard use military type stuff... I'm in the military, so it's kind of an intertwined love affair

 

[Sam Wilson]

A quick Google search found me this:


-sh00ter

Thank you sh00ter! That is exactly what I was talking about. I looked, and for some reason, it didn't pop up. I thought that was really cool. After reading that, it's obvious that Mr. Lile wasn't some survivalist loon, but rather, he had a well thought out system that was a knife first, and movie prop second. He obviously thought it was very practical. I also thought it was interesting to note that Jimmy Lile was making hollow handle knives for years before Rambo, and I'm assuming people must have bought them.

Rustyrazor, that sounds cool. It would be cool to make a military oriented HH knife. I'm sure if soldiers found Randall's Model 18 practical and useful, some today would see the benefits.

Sam :thumbup:

 

[Sam Wilson]

Hopefully we can get a post from "Johnny."

He seems to be missing in action, lol!

 

[TAH]

What’s interesting is each of these features, with the exception of #4 and #5, was shown used (or presumed used, #7) in the film.

1) Have a long cutting edge for cutting shelter materials, firewood and cutting up what i might have to eat.
2) Have a compass in order to hold a true bearing for escape.
3) Have a hollow handle to hold necessities and into which a pole could be fitted to make a spear or gig, as well as being waterproof when capped.
4) Have screwdrivers for working on any gear i had.
5) Have some nylon line for fishing or snares.
6) Have a flat butt for pounding.
7) Have a real saw on the back for cutting small poles for fishing and shelter and making a spear as well as cutting out of the canopy or through the side of a downed aircraft.
8) And last but not least, it must be a dependable offensive or defensive weapon, as the situation might dictate.

Thanks shOOter. I’ve seen this before, but not in a long time. :thumbup:

 

[leghog]

In 1980 Loveless said it best

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1123591/

 

[stvpourciau]

In 1980 Loveless said it best

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1123591/

Am I to believe that his pistol was cocked, or is that just embellishment?

 

[leghog]

Am I to believe that his pistol was cocked, or is that just embellishment?

Why not? If an M1911/M1911A1, it was designed for condition one carry.

 

[KDucky's brother]

Why not? If an M1911/M1911A1, it was designed for condition one carry.

+1. Only way to carry it.

In that respect, the ubiquitous Glock is also designed to be carried cocked with a round in the chamber 24/7. And it has no on-board external safety(sans safe action trigger. which really isn't a safetly) like the 1911 has.

For the question regarding it being cocked(?)... Only the Double Action can be carried uncocked while still maintaining the ability to fire when the trigger is pulled.

 

[rustyrazor]

In 1980 Loveless said it best

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1123591/

perhaps i missed it, but i skimmed through that whole article, and didn't see anything about Mr. Loveless hating "rambo" or HH knives anywhere... as i said, maybe i missed it, but could you please clarify the point Mr. Loveless was making?

 

[BladeScout]

What’s interesting is each of these features, with the exception of #4 and #5, was shown used (or presumed used, #7) in the film.

1) Have a long cutting edge for cutting shelter materials, firewood and cutting up what i might have to eat.
2) Have a compass in order to hold a true bearing for escape.
3) Have a hollow handle to hold necessities and into which a pole could be fitted to make a spear or gig, as well as being waterproof when capped.
4) Have screwdrivers for working on any gear i had.
5) Have some nylon line for fishing or snares.
6) Have a flat butt for pounding.
7) Have a real saw on the back for cutting small poles for fishing and shelter and making a spear as well as cutting out of the canopy or through the side of a downed aircraft.
8) And last but not least, it must be a dependable offensive or defensive weapon, as the situation might dictate.

Thanks shOOter. I’ve seen this before, but not in a long time. :thumbup:

Good point.
Didnt one Lile knife have screw driver shaped tips to the hand guard?

perhaps i missed it, but i skimmed through that whole article, and didn't see anything about Mr. Loveless hating "rambo" or HH knives anywhere... as i said, maybe i missed it, but could you please clarify the point Mr. Loveless was making?

Guy is not good with direct questions. You should know that by now After all, Sam Wilson asked him one specific question about 500 times with no answer but a steady rambling on about other subjects than the one at hand

 

[TAH]

Didnt one Lile knife have screw driver shaped tips to the hand guard?

Actually, both knives (First Blood and Rambo II) had screw driver tips on the guard. The Sly II was later introduced with a lugged guard.