Are "Rambo" type knives practical?

rustyrazor said:
perhaps i missed it, but i skimmed through that whole article, and didn't see anything about Mr. Loveless hating "rambo" or HH knives anywhere... as i said, maybe i missed it, but could you please clarify the point Mr. Loveless was making?
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I think leghog was maybe trying to make the point that large blades are impractical (Loveless said a 4" blade is ideal, but then again he was talking about a hunting knife). And maybe trying to make some correlation about Rambo and Loveless knives being used vs sitting in safes... not really sure.

-sh00ter
 
TAH said:
Actually, both knives (First Blood and Rambo II) had screw driver tips on the guard. The Sly II was later introduced with a lugged guard.
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A nifty detail - especially considering that I dont remember the feature being used in the movie either.
 
BladeScout said:
A nifty detail - especially considering that I dont remember the feature being used in the movie either.
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Perhaps its in a scene somewhere that was cut, gone and lost forever? That would be cool.

And you fellas can do whatever you want but I still carry a revolver set on an empty cartridge, cos thats just the safest way to do it..
 
rustyrazor said:
perhaps i missed it, but i skimmed through that whole article, and didn't see anything about Mr. Loveless hating "rambo" or HH knives anywhere... as i said, maybe i missed it, but could you please clarify the point Mr. Loveless was making?
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You are now in the same boat as the rest of us that don't understand.
BladeScout said:
Guy is not good with direct questions. You should know that by now:D After all, Sam Wilson asked him one specific question about 500 times with no answer but a steady rambling on about other subjects than the one at hand;)
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Now Bladescout, to be fair, it was only like 382 times, lol.

sh00ter01 said:
I think leghog was maybe trying to make the point that large blades are impractical (Loveless said a 4" blade is ideal, but then again he was talking about a hunting knife). And maybe trying to make some correlation about Rambo and Loveless knives being used vs sitting in safes... not really sure.

-sh00ter
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You're probably right. And I would not argue with some of those points. But that's the beauty of the knife world: There are people who love smaller, more minimalist type knives, and those who love giant HH monsters. And there are plenty of people who make every type in between. I have no doubt that you could "survive" with a 4" blade knife. After all the primary purpose for a knife is to cut. Four inches of steel will certainly do that. But there are obviously tasks at which a larger blade would excel, and no sane person will argue that a 4" knife will outperform a large blade for chopping, or other heavy duty tasks. But this thread isn't about 4" drop point hunters. It's about Rambo knives. Sooooo, I don't see the relevance either, lol.

And thank you again, sh00ter. Jimmy Lile said it better in that paragraph than just about this whole thread. :thumbup:

Sam
 
I'll agree, a 4" knife is the perfect size for a knife.

But aren't talking about knives here, we're talking about a blade for which cutting is merely a baseline.
 
Probably just like any movie, they cut a ton out. I know Rambo was supposed to forge his own blade in RIII and RIV, but I believe most if not all of that was cut out. AFTER Gil Hibben made a video showing how to do it, and made several blades in various states of production going through the forging process to be used in the movie. For RIV, I believe he even made at least one RIII knife that Rambo was supposed to use for a scene, and either they didn't do the scene, or it was cut. Then it was to be disposed of, and he had to make the RIV knife in a hurry, which accounts for its rough finish. The scene of Stallone "forging" a blade in RIII used to be on YouTube, but I don't know if it's still there or not.
 
stvpourciau said:
I'll agree, a 4" knife is the perfect size for a knife.

But aren't talking about knives here, we're talking about a blade for which cutting is merely a baseline.
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Yep, I agree. That was the whole point Lile was making, that this was a specialized tool to cover as many bases as possible, in an emergency. As he stated, he wanted to make a fully functional tool first, and a movie prop second, or something to that effect.
 
stvpourciau said:
Perhaps its in a scene somewhere that was cut, gone and lost forever? That would be cool.
Indeed
And you fellas can do whatever you want but I still carry a revolver set on an empty cartridge, cos thats just the safest way to do it..
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I would do so as well....., if I carried a 1873 Colt 'Hog Leg' on a regular basis:D
Now, if I carried a modern revolver, I'd have no problem carrying it with a full cylinder. After all, tranfer bars have been invented. Check it out and you'll see, that its no problem.

Sam Wilson said:
You are now in the same boat as the rest of us that don't understand.


Now Bladescout, to be fair, it was only like 382 times, lol.
:D:D:D:D :D:D funny
You're probably right. And I would not argue with some of those points. But that's the beauty of the knife world: There are people who love smaller, more minimalist type knives, and those who love giant HH monsters. And there are plenty of people who make every type in between. I have no doubt that you could "survive" with a 4" blade knife. After all the primary purpose for a knife is to cut. Four inches of steel will certainly do that. But there are obviously tasks at which a larger blade would excel, and no sane person will argue that a 4" knife will outperform a large blade for chopping, or other heavy duty tasks. But this thread isn't about 4" drop point hunters. It's about Rambo knives. Sooooo, I don't see the relevance either, lol.

And thank you again, sh00ter. Jimmy Lile said it better in that paragraph than just about this whole thread. :thumbup:

Sam
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Well said, Sam.

Sam Wilson said:
Probably just like any movie, they cut a ton out. I know Rambo was supposed to forge his own blade in RIII and RIV, but I believe most if not all of that was cut out. AFTER Gil Hibben made a video showing how to do it, and made several blades in various states of production going through the forging process to be used in the movie. For RIV, I believe he even made at least one RIII knife that Rambo was supposed to use for a scene, and either they didn't do the scene, or it was cut. Then it was to be disposed of, and he had to make the RIV knife in a hurry, which accounts for its rough finish. The scene of Stallone "forging" a blade in RIII used to be on YouTube, but I don't know if it's still there or not.
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If you want to see a knife being made fast, go watch 'The Hunted' and see Benicio Del Toro make a knife in a jiffy:D
 
BladeScout said:
If you want to see a knife being made fast, go watch 'The Hunted' and see Benicio Del Toro make a knife in a jiffy:D
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Every time I see that movie on TV, when it gets to that scene, I have to look away, ha ha. I can't even imagine how guys that actually forge knives for real feel about it. Hollywood. I'm sure the technical advisors for the forging and such had to be like, "We're getting paid, and it's just a movie. We're getting paid, and it's just a movie..." :D
 
Sam Wilson said:
That was the whole point Lile was making, that this was a specialized tool to cover as many bases as possible, in an emergency.
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Hold on there, Sam. Mr. Loveless' knives could be used in an emergency too, if you needed quick cash to buy a house or start a war. :D
 
Sam,

Are there different thicknesses of the hollow handle tubing? Timberline describes their handle as "heavy wall" 304 stainless tubing. What do you use again?
 
TAH said:
Hold on there, Sam. Mr. Loveless' knives could be used in an emergency too, if you needed quick cash to buy a house or start a war. :D
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You're right about that. But he may have a little competition. I believe an actual movie used First Blood knife recently got around $78,000.00, yes, $78,000.00 at auction. I will have to double check to be sure, but I believe that's correct.

TAH said:
Sam,

Are there different thicknesses of the hollow handle tubing? Timberline describes their handle as "heavy wall" 304 stainless tubing. What do you use again?
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Yes, I know different makers use different things, from pre-fabbed handles, to turning their own. I use 316 series stainless steel, commonly referred to as Marine Grade. It's a small step up in corrosion resistance, and I live in the PNW. The 304 is probably more than enough for any environment, but I thought since I could use whatever I wanted, I might as well go all the way. Forgot to add, the wall thickness is about 1/8". The interior of the tube is just a hair under 7/8" in diameter.

Sam :thumbup:
 
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sh00ter01 said:
I think leghog was maybe trying to make the point that large blades are impractical (Loveless said a 4" blade is ideal, but then again he was talking about a hunting knife). And maybe trying to make some correlation about Rambo and Loveless knives being used vs sitting in safes... not really sure.

-sh00ter
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Possibly... However Mr. Loveless made some pretty substantial sized blades himself... His "big bear" had an 8 1/2 blade if memory serves me right, but as you mentioned that piece is meant for something other than hunting (as was the lile "Rambo"). So that point ...if Mr. Leghog was trying to make it could be taken to be moot. Along with the "too expensive to use" argument... I'm 100% sure master cutlers such as these, designed their knives with every intention that someday they would be someone's trusted companion and be taken to its limits. ANY knife you leave at home is useless... But I assume this thread was started to address the question that "if" a HH knife were to be actually used that it would be practical, and from the arguments over the last 20 pages, I think we've established it's practicality. At least compared to the non argument of the nay Sayers.
 
leghog said:
An expensive hollyweird movie prop, but I'm sure it will see lots of "practical" use in the future.:rolleyes:
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Sam. :thumbup:
 
Sam Wilson said:
I use 316 series stainless steel, commonly referred to as Marine Grade. It's a small step up in corrosion resistance, and I live in the PNW. The 304 is probably more than enough for any environment, but I thought since I could use whatever I wanted, I might as well go all the way.
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Knowing you, this doesn't surprise me. :thumbup:
 
leghog said:
An expensive hollyweird movie prop, but I'm sure it will see lots of "practical" use in the future.:rolleyes:
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I know it's a free country, and you can post whatever you choose within reason... But if you never have anything to contribute, one might assume you are merely trolling. You are yet to legitimately respond to ANY direct question with anything resembling a valid response, and when you do post something as foolish as this, you're just begging to be picked at. Are you lonely my friend... Is there nobody you can talk to? It's a shame how people treat those in your position. Please, go... Join a bowling league. Take up knitting. Anything. I hate to see anyone like this.
 
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