Are there Knife companies that makes blades as strong as Busse knives?

leatherman said:
I'm a little confused here, you did not seem so concerned in that thread? :confused: Most of the people who bent the tubes were throwing their knives or hitting the handle with a heavy object. After 12+ years of hard use I've never seen this happen first hand, but I bet if I repeatedly hit the handle with a mallet or wood maul I'd get any handle to break or come loose.

That said, I own and really like my Fehrman First Strike. It's performed very well in the field and I have no complaints but for the blade edge has a bit of a propensity to chip instead of deform. Its easier to steel a deformed edge than to sharpen out a chip. I've also lost a few handle bolts on mine from them coming loose during use, I know that thread locker would help but I want to be able to remove the handles when I wish.

ESEE is an excellent choce for an outdoors knife. Rowen does magic with 1095. I've been very pleased with the ESEE4 thats been through a few hunting trips, but for needing a touch up during skinning its performed very well for the price. They use the same bolts as Fehrman which makes it fun to switch out the handles for custom pieces, larger handles do wonders for the 3 and 4. But they do come loose on occasion, watch them carefully.
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I didn't sound concerned in the thread because you can get the truth from people when you act and seem like something is no big deal. If I posted that I think Busse handles suck because the tube fasteners bend, there would have been a much less productive and helpful response to me and everyone.

After I sold those two Busses, I bought a Final Judgement. I have treated it exactly the same as the Busse, and have had no problems in the last 6 years.

If Busse reverts back to the old screws I'm in. I had two of the first 300 SHBM's directly from Busse. Those handles never had a problem and I beat them senseless.

Everyone likes different knives. And we can all buy what we want, so we all win.
 
Its all good, I am a big fan of Fehrman, ESEE, Benchmade, Spyderco, so on and so fourth. If I like the knife I'll get one eventually. I wont fall for fan votes, or fancy advertising, I found several companies that satisfied my criteria for a tough knife that can take punishment and I get them. I really am not concerned with someone's view on a certain part of its anatomy, its fixable and I move on. I wont judge an entire company by a few opinions. :) Never have, never will.

Oh, and Bill Siegle knives absolutely ROCK! Until you try one you dont know what your missing. :D
 
leatherman said:
Its all good, I am a big fan of Fehrman, ESEE, Benchmade, Spyderco, so on and so fourth. If I like the knife I'll get one eventually. I wont fall for fan votes, or fancy advertising, I found several companies that satisfied my criteria for a tough knife that can take punishment and I get them. I really am not concerned with someone's view on a certain part of its anatomy, its fixable and I move on. I wont judge an entire company by a few opinions. :) Never have, never will.

Oh, and Bill Siegle knives absolutely ROCK! Until you try one you dont know what your missing. :D
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I wasn't referring to you, some others aren't as mature.:) I still haven't tried an ESEE yet, but need to. I will look at Bill's knives before I buy. I wish Trace Rinaldi was still taking orders for the Armageddon!
 
southernknives said:
I had a ASHBMLE on order. I canceled it yesterday because after posting a thread in the Busse forum about the handle tubes bending and seeing how many others have this problem, I decided not to spend 700 on it. Fehrman will get the money.
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Its not at all a problem. If I recall almost everyone stated this happened due to throwing there knives and you stated you beat directly on your scales so yeah, stuff happens when people do dumb stuff, just wanted to clarify :thumbup: Gotta admit, pretty Awesome busse takes care of this kinda abuse though ehh?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1108345-Anyone-have-their-tube-fasteners-bend
 
I've owned a Busse, Swamp Rats, Scrapyards, and many other tough knives. They are very cool and very tough however when I attempt to cut something with those knives I, realize I'm carrying something that is heavy so it doesn't break, however it doesn't do its intended job well at all. I have started carrying a much lighter Mora and it does the cutting much better, however never seems to break...
 
Macchina said:
I've owned a Busse, Swamp Rats, Scrapyards, and many other tough knives. They are very cool and very tough however when I attempt to cut something with those knives I, realize I'm carrying something that is heavy so it doesn't break, however it doesn't do its intended job well at all. I have started carrying a much lighter Mora and it does the cutting much better, however never seems to break...
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Hey FYI busse makes an abundance of mora sized knives that cut quite well, not just big heavy tanks :thumbup:










And just because I felt like it


quite large but I never had a problem cutting with them, maybe Im doing it wrong :confused:
 
southernknives said:
I wasn't referring to you, some others aren't as mature.:) I still haven't tried an ESEE yet, but need to. I will look at Bill's knives before I buy. I wish Trace Rinaldi was still taking orders for the Armageddon!
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I've had several of Bill's knives and every one was very nice, nothing fancy, but pure performance and he is one heck of a nice guy to boot. I agree about Trace, the Armageddon was silly expensive but I wanted one in the worst way, still do. The Tops version is nice, but.... its not a Rinaldi. :)
Macchina said:
I've owned a Busse, Swamp Rats, Scrapyards, and many other tough knives. They are very cool and very tough however when I attempt to cut something with those knives I, realize I'm carrying something that is heavy so it doesn't break, however it doesn't do its intended job well at all. I have started carrying a much lighter Mora and it does the cutting much better, however never seems to break...
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You might have missed the good ones then? Busse makes some choppers yes, and some mid range double duty that dont seem to do super at either, but there are some real slicers in the list that do deserve attention. Deric above shows some very good examples. Just like most tools, knives tend to be job specific, I'd hate to think about chopping fire wood with a mora sized knife, and on the other hand I'd not want to slice up the rabbit with a bowie either. :D

I really like Scandi knives, I have a few myself, no Mora's per say, but a few other well known brands. Plastic handles arent my favorite thing. Nothing against them, but plastic... I've got wood and one birch bark handled knife that I enjoy. My all time favorite is a Roselli Hunter, super high carbon blade that is laser sharp. No hard use for these, I have ugly knives for that. :p
 
LadyEarth said:
Long story short, I saw a few on forum that mentioned being "almost as good as" a busse knife. Problem is, I forgot the names and tried to find it again. No luck. (I also know that they sold some knives on here in the past)

That being said, what are the lists of knife companies that boasts being able to take a beating and shrug it off just like the Busse knives? (Minus the big named companies such as KaBar, Cold Steel, Esee, Ontario, etc. Just the small Knife companies, not including individual blade makers)

So far, all I remember is Zombie Tools.
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I tested a few knives including a Busse here:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/648410-Busse-vs-Fehrman-vs-Strider
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
I hear Bosch makes some pretty tough ones. :D :D :D

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I don't know that I can add anything that hasn't already been said, but this gave me a good solid laugh. I think I read that many are made from S7.
LadyEarth, I just wanted to say I support you in your endeavors and though I like Busse, I also second Survive, Knife Research, ESEE, Svord and Becker and many of the custom makers here - and yes I am an addict. Mike
 
I have to look into getting a Fehrman Knives Final Judgement. Surprised that the black blade costs $65 less than satin blade! It's an expensive beast!

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Blade Size: 9.5" x 1.68" x .25"
Overall Length: 15"
Steel: CPM-3V
Hardness: 57-59 Rc
Handle: Linen Micarta, Cushioned
 
dericdesmond said:
Its not at all a problem. If I recall almost everyone stated this happened due to throwing there knives and you stated you beat directly on your scales so yeah, stuff happens when people do dumb stuff, just wanted to clarify :thumbup: Gotta admit, pretty Awesome busse takes care of this kinda abuse though ehh?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1108345-Anyone-have-their-tube-fasteners-bend
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I'd rather have the same warranty, and not have to use it.:) (Ferhman has the same warranty)
 
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RamZar said:
I have to look into getting a Fehrman Knives Final Judgement. Surprised that the black blade costs $65 less than satin blade! It's an expensive beast!

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Blade Size: 9.5" x 1.68" x .25"
Overall Length: 15"
Steel: CPM-3V
Hardness: 57-59 Rc
Handle: Linen Micarta, Cushioned
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I really like mine. No they aren't cheap, but very well made.
 
southernknives said:
I'd rather have the same warranty, and not have to use it.:) (Ferhman has the same warranty)
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Well, kind of, I've had to replace a few of those handle bolts and nuts. They're not easy to get and adjust to specific needs. ymmv as I dont spend a lot of money with them or Busse.

Other than that its pretty much the same. :) other than I've not had issues with the tubes since 2001 when I got my first SHe from a guy at a gun show.
Other than this one time, we had a free hood at the time, I've never used my knives on anything besides wood and leather. One day I decided to finally see how much these much lauded knives could handle. Took a deep breath and came to terms with if it broke I'd be simply out of luck for a replacement. Took my 2 pound leather maul, the SHe and the car hood and set about to see what I could do to it. Final score? SHe-1, Hood-0, and leather maul seriously chipped. Please note where I got a little frustrated at my maul getting damaged and went to the hardened nut nestled in there. I beat the back of the knife unmercifully with that big maul, scales are still rock solid.



Dont get me wrong, I'd love to say something went wrong, but it didn't. If you want to know why give me an e-mail sometime. As you have probably figured out I am not a mega fan of any brand (used to be, but that is another story) if I set out to make a point, I will.
 
RamZar said:
Thanks.

Do you know why the black blade costs $65 more than the satin (which doesn't look like satin and looks more like it has a coating)?
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The black blade, a coating, costs Less than the satin or bead blast, as there is a lot more work in the finishing. He did say that the black was less.
 
leatherman said:
The black blade, a coating, costs Less than the satin or bead blast, as there is a lot more work in the finishing. He did say that the black was less.
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My fault.

On the Fehrman Knives Final Judgement Black finish is $65 LESS than Satin! There's no Bead Blast option.

Still doesn't make sense that the black coating costs less than satin unless it's satin / bead blast.

In none of the pictures does it look like satin finish.
 
Reason being that when you coat a knife you dont have to do as much smooth finishing, in other words you can leave it a bit rougher than you would with a satin finish. Less work means less money.

Coatings cover quite a few more tool marks than are readily evident on a clean satin finish.

Bead blast was once an offering, but it looks like it is not now, no worries, I was around them when they started so things have changed. :) My knife from them still has the hole in the guard if that lets you know how long its been. I'm willing to bet they still have the same attention to detail and quality that they did back then. :)
 
Yeah for those that have never done it, let it be known that finishing steel is a pain in the arse. I worked as an assistant metal fabricator at a yacht company once, and boy did that ever increase my appreciation for a mirror finish! Powder coats and bead blasting are less expensive alternatives to create an attractive finish, but they decrease the performance of the tool compared to a bright bare steel finish.
 
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