Are you a Benchmade or a Spyderco type of person?

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Yesterday I was a Spyderco person, today Benchmade. Tomorrow probably be a RJ Martin, Hiderer, or Lambert......OOOOHH the pressure is killing me.:D
 
Benchmade brings in and discontinues knives too. Then they make Harley ones out of them. Sounds like you missed out on a spyderco sprint that you wanted. Cry baby.

Siggyhk said:
Look, I apoogize to anyone (well, most) who I may have offended in this thread.
The thing is simple, After over ten years of owning and using folders of all types, I find Benchmade makes the best in that price range.
On bladeforums, for every thread about benchmade, it generally get people either complaing about the knife, or saying to get this or that Spyderco instead.
This is way I consider this the second Spyderco forum. Maybe it's not even that, but more of an anti Benchmade forum at time.
I feel no need to go further into detail about why I like Benchmade over Spyderco. But it's because:
They feel more solid and are
Thier locks are better without a doubt
Thier blades aren't as weak
They make knives in America
They have treated me better "by far" with CS issues
They don't bring in and discontinue a plethora of knives each year

I could go on, but I'm trying to aplease the gent who asker for specifics.

To me liner-locks are shit, and I don't care if they're custom, Strider, or anyone elses.

In the end, Im not truly a diehard Benchmade fan. I'm usually broke, so I buy the best knife I can for my money. That still usually means a Benchmade.

ANd again, I have no personal issue with Sal. But I do feel any company that turns out so many different knives, pertiularly in limit numbers, is after the money. ANd when they tell you they don'y have parts to fix your knife because it's been dicontinued, well, that's BS.
Companies (like Spyderco) who do that should change thier warrantee to "Garanteed untill discontinued," There is nothing lifetime about the Spyderco warantee
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Just to continue, I also feel the way they do these sprint runs is BS. Yeah, sell a few hundred off real quick so that the rest of use who actually wanted one get to pay double pr triple to some jerk who bought it just to resell.


Oh well. I'll say it again, I appologize to you people seeing me as a shit starter or troll. Use whatever knife you like. I for one will use mine with pride.
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Only paying members gold and higher can close threads. But now that there have been personal attacks it will get closed soon.

There are lots of fan boys on both sides who aren't thinking too logically in this thread and who are focusing on things that are insignificant or of personal opinion. Buy what you like but don't expect everyone to like it or expect it to fit everyone the same. You would think a knife without jimping, thumb ramps, or bidirectional texture would just fly out of your hand and stab innocent bystanders the way some talk.


Ken44 said:
Yeah, thats what I was trying to say....but you say it much better:thumbup::p



To the OP...if we can't talk about what we like or don't about a brand without dissing companys,company owners, or others, could you please just lock your thread.
I really don't think you started it for this(some have thought so), but most knew what this would turn into. Now you know, and are the only one that can close it(other than a Mod).
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I have only Spydermades and Benchcos. All the others brands do not exist to me. Come on guys, be happy that there is variety out there. I truly love both brands of knives. It was easier to warm up to BM first, but once you put a Spyderco in your hand, the awkward look to the knife goes away immediately, and all you see is function shining through as physical beauty. I have never had any issue with any new knives from a respectable dealer of either brands. Never a failure on a lock. The only test that I was glad my Griptilian passed was that I was cutting up cardboard outside in the dark and my daughter was with me, since mom was gone at the store, and she did not want to be alone in the house. It was dark outside other than the moon. She asked if she could cut a slice through the cardboard. She inadvertantly flipped the knife upside down, and was putting downforce on the spine. I did not see it right away, but knew immediately something was wrong since the knife was not cutting. I had that knife hair whittling prior to my cardboard cutting session. If the axis lock failed, her fingers either would be sliced off, or cut to the bone. It would have ended my knife hobby right then and there, but the axis lock saved CJ the dumbass. I owe that to them.
 
Not that it matters at this point, but I was drinking and taking xanax all day on the 3rd when I wrote most of what I wrote. I'm still feeling pretty good after a long nap, but I probably hould have stayed away from this forums during that time.
The funny thing is, I enjoy some Spydercos very much and frequently recommend them to people on this forum.
I do apologize for the "zombie" usage, and more so for bringing Mr Glesser's name into this.
But don't get me wrong, I am a Benchmade guy sober or not.
 
Oh man....I just HAVE to take this reply apart here.

Please keep in mind that I don't mind either company. I don't own any products from either so I have no dog in this fight.

Siggyhk said:
Look, I apoogize to anyone (well, most) who I may have offended in this thread.
The thing is simple, After over ten years of owning and using folders of all types, I find Benchmade makes the best in that price range.
On bladeforums, for every thread about benchmade, it generally get people either complaing about the knife, or saying to get this or that Spyderco instead.
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I've seen plenty people complain on this forum that they DON't like spyderco's. Probably just as many as complain about Benchmade. The general reaction to it seems to be

"Then don't buy them you dummy"

Which is a pretty proper one i think.

This is way I consider this the second Spyderco forum. Maybe it's not even that, but more of an anti Benchmade forum at time.
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Unsubstantiated. If you actually took the time to read a few more posts there are TONS of people that LOVE the griptillian for instance. It's one of the most liked knives on the forum

I feel no need to go further into detail about why I like Benchmade over Spyderco.
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Then why do it?
But it's because:
They feel more solid and are
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FEEL is subjective. as for whether they are....that's pure conjecture. You don't have any tests to back that statement up that are actually valid. But saying you like them because you FEEL they're better is the first proper argument and one no-one can really dismiss. It's your personal opinion and is probably the best argument you can bring.
Thier locks are better without a doubt
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Once again this can't be proven. So if you'd have said "I THINK their locks are better" you'd have a good argument. Saying they are...and even worse "without a doubt" is not so good an argument since you have nothing to back that up.
Thier blades aren't as weak
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I think you mean they have THIN blades. Have you ever handled a Spyderco Chinook? good GOD that thing is a tank. Saying ALL spyderco's have weak blades is like saying all benchmades have a black handle. Sure...a lot of them do but not all of them do.

Also...a THIN blade is not per definition weak. There's a difference there.

They make knives in America
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So does spyderco. Maybe not all of their knives but a lot of them nevertheless. But then again as has been pointed out many times before. Benchmade doesn't produce everything in the states either. Only for their Benchmade line. (Benchmade is a large company and make products under others names as well such as H&K and Harley Davidson)
They have treated me better "by far" with CS issues
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Another good reason as it's based on personal experience and opinion.
They don't bring in and discontinue a plethora of knives each year
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That might be true. But they DO discontinue products all the time. Maybe not as many as Spyderco but that's simply because Spyderco experiments with designs a lot more it seems.

I could go on, but I'm trying to aplease the gent who asker for specifics.
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yeah...that didn't go too well.
To me liner-locks are shit, and I don't care if they're custom, Strider, or anyone elses.
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Do you care if it's Benchmade? Saying EVERYTHING in a category is useless gives the idea that a person is ignorant.
In the end, Im not truly a diehard Benchmade fan. I'm usually broke, so I buy the best knife I can for my money. That still usually means a Benchmade.
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You seem to have contradicted yourself there. Care to try again?
ANd again, I have no personal issue with Sal.
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Then how about you leave him out of this. It's not very polite to get personal...especially on someone who's well liked and respected. Even if you don't like the man's knives you shouldn't attack him personally for that.
But I do feel any company that turns out so many different knives, pertiularly in limit numbers, is after the money.
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Have you ever seen a company that ISN'T after money? The difference here is that the limited numbers of knives come out (such as the Ti militairy you hate so much) is only because Sal listened to his customers that asked for some tweaks on the original design. And he wanted to please his customers so much that he makes that tweaked design. At not much of a greater cost than what the original cost might I remind you. Want to get a Benchmade limited design? Better shell out big bucks. (Gold editions)

There's nothing wrong with that. But saying you like Benchmade over spyderco because of something Benchmade does even worse is kind of lame don't you think?
ANd when they tell you they don'y have parts to fix your knife because it's been dicontinued, well, that's BS.
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Yeah, that can suck. Good reason.

Companies (like Spyderco) who do that should change thier warrantee to "Garanteed untill discontinued," There is nothing lifetime about the Spyderco warantee
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This is just whining, you don't like them....don't buy anything from them.

Just to continue, I also feel the way they do these sprint runs is BS. Yeah, sell a few hundred off real quick so that the rest of use who actually wanted one get to pay double pr triple to some jerk who bought it just to resell.
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Yeah that sucks too...but it has nothing to do with Spyderco as it's the jerks on the secondary market that do this. You don't blame a gun salesman when someone robs a bank with one of their guns, you don't blame Spyderco when some jerk tries to make money off their product. Simple as that.

Oh well. I'll say it again, I appologize to you people seeing me as a shit starter or troll. Use whatever knife you like. I for one will use mine with pride.
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Good for you.
 
I'll take the highest end Benchmades over the highest end spyderco's anyday of the week, but for mid level user knives I'll take spyderco's over benchmades. I think the Endura and Delica outclass the Griptilian in both FRN handles, and VG-10 is superior to 154CM. But the high end stuff >150$ MSRP I mean like the 940, and 710 are just superb in their workmanship, materials, and speed. Sure Spyderco is better in that they use a lot more experimental super steels like ZPD-189 and sometimes S90V, but there's more to the knife than just steel, if that wasn't the case Cold Steel wouldn't be in business. The axis lock make deployment just like butter. Unlike liner locks or lock backs the Axis lock doesn't have a detent or back spring until the actual initiation of the lock, making deployment friction even throughout the movement. A characteristic of that makes a knife really feel high end. The expensive spyderco's like the Chinook or Military although very high quality, it doesn't exactly have the "It's a expensive knife" feel to them, mostly because it still retains the trappings that their using regular lock methods like lock backs and liner locks, and all the money goes into the steel which most people can't see visually. It's not that their bad, but it just doesn't for me scream "classy" knives like Benchmade's do.
 
LX Emergency, try reading the post I wrote right before you decided to write your little book.
I refuse to point out were else you were wrong in what you just wrote, but if you read the whole thread, you might find out for yourself.

Thanks for the logical post, bubblewhip. I couldn't seem to make one of my own earlier, but I agree with you.
 
Siggyhk said:
LX Emergency, try reading the post I wrote right before you decided to write your little book.
I refuse to point out were else you were wrong in what you just wrote, but if you read the whole thread, you might find out for yourself.

Thanks for the logical post, bubblewhip. I couldn't seem to make one of my own earlier, but I agree with you.
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I did read the whole thread. You whine, you talk down to people and you can't reason logically about this subject.

The post before mine was made while I was typing my post.
 
This thread is kind of like waking up next to a unattractive person from a drunk one night stand. Everyone should feel dirty and embarassed and you want to quietly get out without waking it up.

There should be a big sticky at the top of each forum called "don't post while drinking, you will probably look like an ass and get on the PT list"

We should all let this one die and go away and make the walk of shame with as few people seeing this as possible. :D
 
Both are great companies. Both have knocked 'em out of the park with a few designs (think Griptilian, 710, Military, Delica, etc), and both have produced dogs. When a company tries to cater to different price points and markets, there will be a few hiccups. Can't make everyone happy all the time. Most would have to agree that these two companies have raised the bar with regard to quality and design, and we knife nuts should be thankful. Get an example of each, and go use 'em.
 
i loves both brand of knives but cant get past the axis lock its the strongest lock i have ever seen. so that puts me on the benchmade side. spyderco lock are just not as strong.
 
Spyderco is run by a man with a passion for knives, quality and practical useful designs, who also happens to post in the forums.

You can instantly recognize a Spyderco knife, although you may not see the genious in the design until you actually use it.

There is a method to their designs, there is a quest for practicality in varied fields.

Benchmade is just... a knife company. I never knew there were 'Benchmade guys' besides people who like the axis lock.
 
holo07 said:
i loves both brand of knives but cant get past the axis lock its the strongest lock i have ever seen. so that puts me on the benchmade side. spyderco lock are just not as strong.
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From what I hear you should try the Tri-Ad lock.
 
I own an stainless Delica AUS 8, a composite black VG 10, and a Dragonfly Aus 8. They have all been good to me. I own no BM knives, but I am thinking about trying one.
 
For me it's Spyderco.

I started out using and buying folders 17 yrs ago and have tried at least a hundred different folders from all types of manufacturers and and few customs too. I used to collect and use Benchmades exclusively, I think the original Stryker was one of their best designs. Since then, I've sold all of my Benchmades and moved exclusively over to Spyderco. It all really started when I got a serrated G-10 Harpy and SS small Rescue model. Man, I wish I never got rid of those two...

Anyhow, Spydercos work better for me. I didn't like them at first, purely from an atheistic POV but over time as I used them more I really began to appreciate their designs. Now that I've been using them for the past 9 yrs I also respect their business model and ethics.

Nothing wrong with Benchmades, they're well designed. I actually tried to go back to BM two years ago. I just found it to hard to embrace anything without a hole opener...
 
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