Are you a Benchmade or a Spyderco type of person?

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And I personally find it foolish to buy a knife from another counrty, when you and buy an equal product for where you live. Especially durring these times.
 
I'm a Spyderco person, I really like their designs over Benchmades. I do have a few BM's like the Grip and I just a 755 and both are great knives, I just perfer Spyderco.
 
I am aware that Spyderco make "some" knives here. What percent? Do thier US made knives sell the most?
And as for those off brand Benchmades, they wont see a dime of my money.
 
my first "good" knife, at 48 yrs old, was a full sized griptilian. the second? a endura 4 wave.

love them both.



i got a buck 110 for fun
 
Siggyhk said:
I am aware that Spyderco make "some" knives here. What percent? Do thier US made knives sell the most?
And as for those off brand Benchmades, they wont see a dime of my money.
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so you wont buy a spyderco because they make some models overseas, but you will buy a benchmade because they make some knives here? :rolleyes:

as to the toughness of each brand, i have had 2 BM's and family members have owned 3. now of my two, 530 and 913, they were both dull out of the box, they both had issues with lockup, the 530's omega springs both failed within a week of each other in under a year. and the 913 had inconsistent lockup and all the screws came loose on a daily basis. on the other hand the 5 spydercos i have owned have come razor sharp outta the box and all have perfect lockup. so that is what i am basing my decision on

also i dislike how benchmade doesnt give credit to designers, ie they call their reeve integral locks monolocks. spyderco gives credit to designers. ie they call their RIL's,RIL's. michael walker liner lock, and the kicker is "borrowing" the spyder hole on some models.
 
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Please educate me on how Spydercos are more funtional than benchmades.
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1. Thumb ramps
2. Jimping that works as opposed to BM's useless, aesthetically-oriented jimping
3. Bi-directional texturing on their FRN as opposed to the small patch of diamonds on the Griptilians
4. 4-way clip option

9 times out of 10, you can tell that a Spyderco was made to perform.
 
Gundude73: Okay, if Spyderco made a knife I felt was better than a comparably priced Benchmade, and it was made here, I'd buy it. Unfortunately, Spydercos best knives aren't made here. The Chinook may be an exception. Don't get me wrong, I have bought plenty of knives not made here, but my ways are changing. And I'm not losing out on quality at all during that change. --I'd still buy a zdp Jess Horn if I saw one though, just because Benchmade has few offering I feel compare to that knife.

THG: I feel your agrument is weak based on what you typed. The "best" Spydercos are the Endura an Delica, becuase they're cheap/studry, and can take some "abuse" durring real life work. -Compare the Endura to the full size grip -based on "work use" and the Endura will come up far short. Do you honestly believe the Endura offers better grip than the Grip? Hmmmmm.
You say a Spyderco 9 time ouy of 10 was made to perform. Perform what??? Shaving paper or..? Jimpping/humb ramps dosen't make a knife made to perform. Not to mention the "thumb ramp" Spyderco usualy have is not a feature, but a requirement based on the big hole they put in the blade.


Also, back to the dull out of the box issue: Just go ahead and sharpen it up to your likings. Not all Benchmades come dull, and yes, they should be sharp. But it must really mean alot to a bunch of you to have to sharpen a knife. -I just don'y see it as that big of a deal. Yes, it should be sharp, but it will get dull soon any how, so...
 
i dont consider the delica and endura their best knives, dont know why you would :confused: sure they are nice but i dont think they are the best. check out the UKPK, paramilitary, native, military, manix 2. all US made by the way.

EDIT: forgot to mention the leafstorm, pkal, and some mule teams. also US made.
 
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Best bang for the buck, I mean.
Additionally, I'd not feel comfortable using too many others they make for work, as I would expect the tip to snap.
The millitary is most Spyderco fans favorite. To me, all it does it cut well. Not as well as an ffg Endura g10 though, as the Endura is thinner in the blade. But not many seem to mind that. ---Everyone wants a Military.
So then they put a frame-lock on the Military. Seems pointless to me, as the tip is so thin, what type of stress can you really put on that blade to need a frame-lock. It's like they built a tank with a glass windshield.
I see that it's a sales gimic to me, and it seems to be working well for spyderco. So, good for them.
 
Siggyhk said:
The "best" Spydercos are the Endura an Delica
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Siggyhk said:
Compare the Endura to the full size grip -based on "work use" and the Endura will come up far short.
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I'll play your game just for laughs: actually, it's the Grip that comes up short:

Grip: 3.4 inches
Endura: 3.75 inches

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Siggyhk said:
Do you honestly believe the Endura offers better grip than the Grip? Hmmmmm.
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Absolutely. For the reasons I mentioned above, plus the fact that it's slimmer and so carries more comfortably, plus the options for different grinds and steels, plus the solidity vs. the hollow plastic handles on the Grip.

Plus the better price.

Siggyhk said:
You say a Spyderco 9 time ouy of 10 was made to perform. Perform what??? Shaving paper or..?
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Perform cutting tasks. I don't know, what do you use your knives for?

Siggyhk said:
Jimpping/humb ramps dosen't make a knife made to perform. Not to mention the "thumb ramp" Spyderco usualy have is not a feature, but a requirement based on the big hole they put in the blade.
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Funny how it all comes together, huh?

Jimping and ramps absolutely adds to a knife's ability to perform. You've got to be able to keep your grip (no pun or irony intended) while you're using your knife. The useless jimping on the Grip doesn't allow that, while the ramp and jimping on the Endura and Delica does. All of these features in the ergonomics department allows you to continue cutting without the hand becoming fatigued.

So no doubt this is all related to performance; don't excuse it just because BM tends to fall short.

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Also, back to the dull out of the box issue: Just go ahead and sharpen it up to your likings. Not all Benchmades come dull, and yes, they should be sharp. But it must really mean alot to a bunch of you to have to sharpen a knife. -I just don'y see it as that big of a deal. Yes, it should be sharp, but it will get dull soon any how, so...
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I agree. And I have to say, Spyderco's out-of-box sharpness has been rather disappointing in my experience. Not too much of a problem since I actually use my knives and sharpen them myself.
 
well i was under the impression that knives were designed to cut, silly me ;)

if are gonna pry bring a prybar, i dont pry with any of my knives. plus one of the 2 BM's i had, 530, was EXTREMELY thin.
 
You guys and your "knives are made to cut, not be prybars" crack me up. Problem is, there's knives that can do lite prying within
reason (some of us call that work), and there's knives that can just snap while cutting -because thier blades are designed for kitchen work, not real world cores.
Thanks for the tip though, I'll just be sure I have my kicthen knife and prybar with me at all times.

Spyderco fans should just do themselves a favor and buy something nice from Victorinox.
 
I like Benchmade's butter smooth opening and excellent fit and finish. The Spyderco thumb hole is brilliant- less wear on my pants. Both have some really nice blade steels. Seems more of the Benchmade line is made in the USA, which I like to support. I guess I am trying to point out that both companies have strong points. I think any serious enthusiast should own both, as they both represent American quality and innovation.

My favorite EDC is a Benchmade 745 Lum design. A little bit of both companies innovation represented in one knife.
 
Siggyhk said:
Please educate me on how Spydercos are more funtional than benchmades. Please don't make me laugh by saying they slice fruit better. -Which is about the only thing that they actually can do better.
On average Benchmade makes a stronger knife. They almost always have stronger lock too.
So, to me, unless you're looking for a knife to do fine cutting (and if so go by an exacto knife, by the way), then Benchmade is far more "functional".
"Most" Spydercos cannot hold up to the roughter use that "most" Benchmades can. But, most Spyderco can cut tomatos thinner.
If you need folding knife to do fine cutting, the average Spyderco might be for you, but if you use your knife like a knife (not a scalple), get a benchmade.
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Actually Spyderco makes stronger locks, than benchmade (From my personal use). The axis lock is the only lock that IMO BM executes properly. The liner-locks by BM that I have wear out way to quickly (Dejavu, Nitrous Stryker), while my Military, Barong, Khukri Spidies have THE best liner-locks I've ever had (I've had lots of liners). Furthermore, Spyderco has the caged ball lock, and compression lock, which IMO is stronger than the axis. I've had a Rukus which had some wiggle in the axis lock and made the knife feel very flimsy (which sucks since it's a "heavy duty" knife).
Almost all Spydercos exceed BM with precise cutting performance (ALA slicing fruit, cardboard, etc.) And even though some people think it is not too much of a feature, we use our knives more often to cut food and other other soft materials, so heavy duty is not exactly necessary. Sides, if you look at the Spyderco line-up, they got so serious HD knives. My Manix and Manix 2 FFG, also my Militaries are superb HD knives. I've pounded with a hammer on my S30V Military (by necessity, not just for the heck of it) and it came out as a champ, with only minor chipping on the spine of the blade.
I really think that every knife should be judged individually. you just CANNOT generalize like that. And if you prefer to have a BM that doesnt cut cr@p out of the box, while carrying an exacto in your pocket, please do so. I think I'll stick to carrying a Spyderco, and cover all my needs with one superb knife.
Though I always carry a fixed blade (Izula, BK-11 or Spyderco Street-Beat) for heavy usage, My folder is nontheless is capable of performing every task I need it to perform.
 
Siggyhk said:
You guys and your "knives are made to cut, not be prybars" crack me up. Problem is, there's knives that can do lite prying withing reason (some of us call that work), and there's knives that can just snap while cutting -because thier blade a designed for kitchen work, not real world cores.
Thanks for the tip though, I'll jus be sure I have my kicthen knife and prybar with me at all times.

Spydeco fans should do themselves a favor and just buy something nice from Victorinox.
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well, lets see. i am basing my findings off of the BM's i have/do own. now the BM 530 is .10" thick, but it has a full swedge so it is even thinner. from my experiences carrying knives i do not find that i have to pry things, and if i do i carry things to pry with, like the bottle opener on my SAK. if you are constantly prying with your "work" you should consider carrying a prybar, and if you are prying that much maybe a knife isnt the correct tool.
 
Careful, Billbo, the Spyderco crowd is still salty about Benchmade using that hole opener


Yeah, pick the thinnest Benchmade and then compare it's strenght.

Razosharp, Spyderco has "never" made a fines knife in thier history than the Benchmade Rukus. Sorry about your bad luck.


And it's not that I'm saying I knife should be used to pry, but with most Spydercos, you will need to be overly carefull not to hurt you kitchen utensil/folder.
 
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I've never had to return a Spyderco because it was a POS. I have had to return 3 BM's in the past because of "issues" and was refunded by the vendor.

I have a great vendor who stands behind his stuff and doesn't shine you on to BM warranty service, so long as you contact him immediately.

That said, I love the Benchmades that I have and my Spydies too. The point is - I've never bought a Spyderco that was defective out of the box. YMMV.

I like 'em both but I'm down to 4 BM's and 6 Spydies and won't be buying anymore. I'm older than anyone who's mentioned their age in this thread and the ones I have plus other brands of folders will be going to my sons. :)
 
Spyderco.

-Hugely prefer the hole to a thumb stud.
-Sal, Gail and Eric are great people
-They have lots of knives that work for me, BM not so much.
-Sal is a very honorable person, not as fond of Benchmade ethics:p
-They have the Salt series which is nice for those of us who spend a lot of time by and in the ocean:D

Sverre
 
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