Are You concerned about the Sheeple?

[Hog Feet]

I am currently taking a SCUBA diving class and the instructor asked the class what a diving knife is?

Some people said for keeping sharks away.
The correct answer is "It's a tool."

 

[stevekt]

At my workplace a guy did something stupid with a knife a few years ago. He was reported and fired. The company then cracked down on knife usage in the facility and tried to define what was and was not acceptable. They've relaxed a bit in the last few years but it will only take one stupid mall ninja for them to crack down again.

What may be legal in your state, city, or local government, may be against your workplace policy. Don't be a stupid mall ninja and ruin it for others. Use discretion.

 

[ras]

Don't be a stupid mall ninja and ruin it for others. Use discretion.

That's the point. Nobody said don't use your knives. However, some folks go out of their way to show off their newest tactical blade. Who was it that used his Strider to cut a cherry pie and dropped the knife on his foot? I carry three EDC knives but don't make a point of using them without need. I don't flip my blade out of nervous need. When someone really needs something cut, I'll cut it and make no big deal of the knife; knives are just tools. The way to reduce unnecessary knife legislation and not worry about Sheeple is to be responsible and not just legal.

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

Who was it that used his Strider to cut a cherry pie and dropped the knife on his foot?

Why are you all hung up on that? What was his error- Using too small of a knife? Having an accident?

I guess he must have stuck himself in the foot while doing mall-ninja antics and juggling the knife?

Using a knife to cut a pie is not unusual, it is the norm- even sheeple use knives to cut pies, unless they happen to carry a giant key for just such an occasion.

 

[stevekt]

Was the Strider-pie guy at home, work, or some other place? Knife stupidity in the privacy of one's own home is perfectly acceptable.

 

[ras]

If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. It was actually kind of humorous. . . it wasn't my foot. If I saw a Strider going into a pie though, my first thought would be, "where else has that knife been?". There are better knives to use for pie, most are found in a kitchen, sometimes in a drawer, rarely with a keen edge.

 

[rdelliott]

Why are you all hung up on that? What was his error- Using too small of a knife? Having an accident?

I guess he must have stuck himself in the foot while doing mall-ninja antics and juggling the knife?

Using a knife to cut a pie is not unusual, it is the norm- even sheeple use knives to cut pies, unless they happen to carry a giant key for just such an occasion.

Yup; using a knife to cut dessert is entirely reasonable; I gave my brother a BK-1 for his birthday a few months back. Here he is cutting the cake...

 

[rdelliott]

At my workplace a guy did something stupid with a knife a few years ago. He was reported and fired. The company then cracked down on knife usage in the facility and tried to define what was and was not acceptable. They've relaxed a bit in the last few years but it will only take one stupid mall ninja for them to crack down again.

What may be legal in your state, city, or local government, may be against your workplace policy. Don't be a stupid mall ninja and ruin it for others. Use discretion.

Conversely, what may be in compliance with your employer's Sheeple-Friendly Workplace Environment Policy may be in violation of your local laws; my employers are OK with knives so long as the blade is less than four inches .

 

[Kaizen1]

The argument for a new law always starts out "Nobody needs a |machine gun - derringer - pocketknife|." When people respond to that by thinking, well, I don't know anybody who has a machine gun ... I guess it won't do any harm to ban them -- they don't object to that proposed law.

One of these days the time may come when people say, "I don't know any honest people who carry a pocketknife around with them ... I only see pocketknifes in the hands of criminals on television ... so I guess it won't do any harm to ban pocketknives." If you don't let them see your knife they won't know that any normal decent person carries a knife.

This is a great point.

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. It was actually kind of humorous. . . it wasn't my foot. If I saw a Strider going into a pie though, my first thought would be, "where else has that knife been?". There are better knives to use for pie, most are found in a kitchen, sometimes in a drawer, rarely with a keen edge.

Yeah, real humorous because it was someone else who got hurt :jerkit:

Why not do whatever you want, and stop trying to preach your sheeple ideals to the rest of the world? :thumbdn:

 

[SpyderJon]

That's the point. Nobody said don't use your knives. However, some folks go out of their way to show off their newest tactical blade. Who was it that used his Strider to cut a cherry pie and dropped the knife on his foot? I carry three EDC knives but don't make a point of using them without need. I don't flip my blade out of nervous need. When someone really needs something cut, I'll cut it and make no big deal of the knife; knives are just tools.

Life is perfect, till it isn't. You obviously didn't read what the guy posted. From my understanding, his only eating utinsels include: a Ti spork, a set of Ti chopsticks, and his EDC knife (either a DB or SA). It seems to me, that when confronted with a problem he used the tools at his disposal to handle the job. I didn't see any nervous flipping or mall ninja behavior. HE HAD AN ACCIDENT! Fer crying out loud a kitchen knife still could have fallen on his foot. YES, you have to be responsible, but crap still happens. There are plenty of cases where someone does something stupid with their knife, but this is a bad one to base your argument off of because it makes you look like a judgemental idiot.

In contrast, Cougar's argument doesn't use an unfortunate accident to illustrate his point, and comes much closer to an ACTUAL solution, as opposed to your pseudo-solution.

By the by, I live in an area that has a 4" limit (city), 3" limit (college), and live very close to an area with a 2.5" limit (Boston). I am well familiar with people who dislike guns and knives. So, I keep that in mind when I'm carrying my knives. However, I will not stand by as someone wants to make me feel bad about something that is perfectly legal.

 

[Kaizen1]

Life is perfect, till it isn't. You obviously didn't read what the guy posted. From my understanding, his only eating utinsels include: a Ti spork, a set of Ti chopsticks, and his EDC knife (either a DB or SA). It seems to me, that when confronted with a problem he used the tools at his disposal to handle the job. I didn't see any nervous flipping or mall ninja behavior. HE HAD AN ACCIDENT! Fer crying out loud a kitchen knife still could have fallen on his foot. YES, you have to be responsible, but crap still happens. There are plenty of cases where someone does something stupid with their knife, but this is a bad one to base your argument off of because it makes you look like a judgemental idiot.

In contrast, Cougar's argument doesn't use an unfortunate accident to illustrate his point, and comes much closer to an ACTUAL solution, as opposed to your pseudo-solution.

By the by, I live in an area that has a 4" limit (city), 3" limit (college), and live very close to an area with a 2.5" limit (Boston). I am well familiar with people who dislike guns and knives. So, I keep that in mind when I'm carrying my knives. However, I will not stand by as someone wants to make me feel bad about something that is perfectly legal.

Yeah, real humorous because it was someone else who got hurt

Why not do whatever you want, and stop trying to preach your sheeple ideals to the rest of the world?

I'm glad you guys are saying something about this. Ras's behaviour is completely uncalled for, very junior high. Ras you need to grow the hell up.

 

[Joe-Dirt]

Well I live in the northeast , and work for a liberal N.E. city . I make it a point to use my knives ( I carry 4 inchers, like strider AR, LCC etc) in front of folks all the time with zero problems.

I think I'm a good guy. Make my living as a fire dept. LT. coach youth sports, medic youth sports, vollenteer at church and so on.

We need to show folks that good people use knives, large ones, one handed ones etc. If not the only folks they think use knives will be the bad guys.

Don't hide your knife like its child porn......

Very very good point. I like your idea. I will have to do that more often.

Thanks! :thumbup:

 

[Phil Brown]

I think it is worth pointing out that plenty of people (including sheeple) have accidents with tools they are intimately familiar with during the course of responsibly using them in day-to-day tasks. To think that your collection of 300+ knives somehow protects you from dropping one on your foot is preposterous. I feel sympathy for the guy who got stabbed in the foot; I've dropped knives before. Once or twice it was negligence. I learned my lesson then. But most accidents are, and will be, beyond my control. That's life.

There in a great deal of truth in a sharp knife being safer than a dull one, too. Perhaps someone should mention this to the sheeple next time they one using a rusty old box cutter.

 

[soupah]

Actually Ras, I thought you made some good points- but don't expect any sympathy in this forum for people who suggest discretion. For christ's sake, Nazi Germany has already been brought up once in this thread...watch out, the slippery-slope arguments are on the prowl!

People are afraid of knives because some people use them to kill/hurt other people occasionally, duh. It's my little job to counter that fear as best I can, by exercising my freedom (of knife ownership) in a non-threatening, professional and respectful manner.