Armageddon/ Apocalypse......what's ya thoughts ?

My best guess is that life is going to get tougher. Canada will be one of the safest countries to be in except for natural disasters. If you are concerned, an escape route to the mainland might be in order as that might provide more options than staying put. Do you have friends or relatives that you can stay with? The greatest threat to Vancouver is the fault off the coast of Washington and the impending earthquake and sunami. Being able to survive is partly tied to mindset but being prepared and trained are equally important.
 
I'm not too worried.... I think our everyday lives are stressful enough where the last thing we need is to worry about the end of the world or social unrest. A few years back I was misdiagnosed with a disease and was told I had about 6 months to live. I was initially really depressed because I didn't know what to do, I had no future.

Then I just decided to keep doing what I was doing, I continued going to work and going to school, and I hung out with my friends and family.... I didn't even bother going to the doctor again because I figured if I'm going to die I'm just going to die. Six months later I was still alive and well and my weird symptoms suddenly disappeared. The doctor told me everything in my bloodwork went back to normal.

We are all meant to die some day, there's no point in worrying/thinking about the end of the world, just live your life the way it was meant to be and let life take its own course.
 
Here's a little input from a bunch whose apocalypse came already.

"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?"
- Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket," Seneca

"When it comes time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song, and die like a hero going home." - Chief Aupumut (1725), Mohican.

"I think over again my small adventures
My fears, those small ones that seemed so big
For all the vital things I had to get and reach
And yet there is only one great thing
The only thing
To live to see the great day that dawns
And the light that fills the world."

- Unknown Inuit
 
I think you can get really lost in thought trying to think about what happens at the moment of death, as far as surviving an apocalypse type of event that's a whole other story.

I suppose it depends what the situation is. I'd probably take my immediate family from the big city and go to my in-laws ranch where they have a water well, wild game, and enough land to garden/farm a little.

Depending on the situation, if there's social unrest / riots I may be called to duty and would probably end up fighting a hopeless battle and be side lined like the LA riots. Lesser crimes would be ignored for the higher ones since my department would be vastly outnumbered. We're talking maybe 25-30 officers including the brass for the whole county and not enough patrol units to all be on duty at the same time. Deadly force would probably be given the go ahead, national guard called out, people going ape shit, etc...
 
I have a pretty strong faith, but that doesn’t play in any type of current or future calamity or apocalypse; when the “time” comes, it comes.

Until that moment, life will continue on…with its natural hills and valleys along the road. How many times in history did religious people think apocalypse was just around the corner…either globally or just locally?

I personally don’t think global warming is relevant…the Earth will continue to cycle as it always has and humans are nothing more than a small rash on the skin of a much larger living body. I only say that as we give ourselves too much credit to think we can “destroy” this planet. Sure, we can do a lot of damage to flora and fauna, but we would exterminate ourselves long before destroying the plant on a global level (just my opinion). We do a pretty good job of pollution, local environmental changes (think erosion, deforestation and consuming water sources) and impact the environments from overpopulation.

Even if you’re not a religious person who believes in creation you can’t deny that we are still subject the laws of nature despite our advantages of technology and cognitive skills. Just as the laws of nature impact other creatures, we are subject as well but on a different scale and for different reasons. Just like most animals we are competitive and fight for resources, territory and even dominance…although our impact is on a great scale. Due to our increased populations, environmental disasters have a much greater impact…think massive droughts, famines, diseases, hurricanes, tornados, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, wild-fires, etc. We also add our own impacts from war, genocide or even break-downs in our technological adaptations that modify the environment to create farm land, power, etc from low lying areas or flood plains.

Preparation shouldn’t have any religious or fanatical connotations…in my opinion it’s just prudent practices that even animals practice. Squirrels store food and there are other examples of animals preparing for changes in seasons or cyclical changes to the environments. I know there is always concerns of financial calamities, breakdowns in supplies to food and water and of course the follow on riots and “civil” breakdown in more populated areas. Although we see it as “civil-unrest”, how is it different in predator and prey population adjustments? When the primary sources of water or food are disrupted, competition kills man of the predators off…resulting in the balance shift back to an increase in food and other resources. War, famine, diseases and natural disasters are the balancing impacts of nature and human nature. I do see all life as sacred, but Nature doesn’t take sides or discriminate…it affects all and we are subject regardless of the measure we take.

So, just like the squirrel or bear…keep enough food (and water) on hand and take precautions to weather the storm and season. Whether religion is a part of your life or not, you have a responsibility to be prepared; even the Bible stresses the importance of being prepared and not just spiritually.

ROCK6
 
IMO...stand by and prepare for the inevitable (key word here being PREPARE). I was watching the 700 Club a couple wks ago where Pat Robertson was interviewing Glenn Beck. Beck stated there was a distinct possibility of civil unrest/war in this interview and from what I gathered Pat Robertson agreed. At any rate, it was a great show as far as I was concerned. Anyone interested can go to www.cbn.com and check it out!!!
 
BTW...this is a great topic!!!!!!! if we need to go to another thread to discuss it further I, for one, would like to know WHERE to go! I am a spiritual person and believe each and every word in the Bible.............
 
I believe its gunna happen
the why of it tho touches on both my peoples " dreaming" and on my religious beliefs .

how I intend to deal with it tho ...

If home is damaged / destroyed / taken over by evil govt forces and we cannot phone each other , we have a meeting place arranged .

I figure this is important , if an evac is in order , its good to have everyone present to begin with

then we got arrangement with several friends that we can call on them for temporary accommodation , just as they can do with us if they need to .

If we got to go further .. for whatever reason .. there is across state , and interstate lot of commercial accommodation , hotels notells and motels , caravan parks , and I have several friends to call on between here and Perth and here and Darwin depending on time of year and where we actually can go .

On a more local scale I have worked out alternative ways out of town . We have 2 main roads , one good back road , one crappy back road , and a couple of cross country options . ( small town ) I usualy hit the back roads when we have any issues as traffic delays on the main road as it is . I do not want to have to go cross country as it will mean upsetting a few people probably .

on a personal level I have posted before about everyone in our house has their own bag ... the kids are responsible for their change of clothes , sleeping bag , plate mug and eating tools , tent , if they are mature enough first aid kit cooking pot etc ... all as light as we can afford to go .

We drill with our gear .. well we use it regularly for camping out . It never hurts to be familiar with what we have , when things are seriously stressful is not the time to be saying I wonder what I got in here we can use ? Its also a great way for us to know if what we thought would be a good idea to have will actually BE a good idea or a failure .

that is basicly my plans , in no particular order . I keep things on a fun level when we camp , I get the kids to cook up stuff using their gear even here at home , they go tot heir first aid kits for bandaids and antiseptic ointment as it is when they are hurt .

We have watched the floods that messed up Brisbane and took out towns in qld and vic , and had discussions of what to do if / when it affects us . same when there was fires south of us that we were keeping an eye on . We figured when they get to X point , we are packin up . getting the kids and moving out of town . Id rather be laughed at for running away early than be remembered as the guy who stayed back and died trying to save his house .

Everyone in the house knows that our camping bag is our emergency bag and usually they treat it accordingly .
 
Foilist mentioned a book earlier. I also have one to add. Parable of the Sower by Octavia E. Butler. Yes it has heavy religious connotations and a large dose of SHTF. What I found compelling about the book was the creation by the author of a very imaginable possible future. A grim setting but there is a hopefulness and determination that seems to embody "mankind" in general.

If you like fictional survival type stuff check it out at the library.

IMO you can't prepare for everything but you can hedge your bets to minimize a families discomfort if the systems of support diminish or disappear.

J.
 
I have an uncle, who is a Vietnam vet, that thinks we should pull the plug for like a month just to give people a vague idea of what would happen if something did happen.

That being said, I would do my best to get all the necessary tools in my car and haul ass 30 miles to the family farm and man the fort. I actually spend a lot of time thinking about this. I know it may seem crazy, but I would kind of like to see the world flipped on it's head.
 
dipbait said:
When the power goes out , it will get ugly.
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No kidding eh, LOL !

Here is some info about the the damage solar flares can cause~

Most solar flares will only cause minor problems with satellites and power grids, but a major flare in the mid-19th century blocked the nascent telegraph system, and some scientists believe that another such even is now overdue.

In a huge solar storm back in 1859, telegraph offices worldwide were hit, some telegraph operators reported electric shocks, the telegraph systems malfunctioned and even paper caught fire. It is the strongest solar storm on record and is called the “Carrington Event,” which is named after Richard Carrington, who viewed and reported on the solar flare of Sept. 1, 1859. In 1989, six million people in Quebec, Canada were left without power for several hours when a solar storm took down a power grid.

Severe Solar Storms could cripple Earth this Decade?
According to a report by the National Research Council in 2008, a solar storm similar to the ones in the past could cause up to $2 trillion dollars in damage across the globe today.

The NOAA predicted four “extreme” solar emissions which could threaten the planet this decade. Similarly, NASA warned that a peak in the sun's magnetic energy cycle and the number of sun spots or flares around 2013 could enable extremely high radiation levels.

This is a special problem in the United States and especially a severe threat in the eastern United States as Federal Government studies revealed that this extreme solar activity and emissions may result in complete blackouts for years, in several areas of the nation. Moreover, there may also be disruption of power supply for years together or even decades as geomagnetic currents attracted by the storm could debilitate the transformers.

Last month, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission said that U.S. plants affected by a blackout should be able to cope without electricity for atleast eight hours and should have procedures to keep the reactor and spent-fuel pool cool for 72 hours.

Nuclear plants depend on standby batteries and backup diesel generators. Most standby power systems would continue to function after a severe solar storm, but supplying the standby power systems with adequate fuel, when the main power grids are offline for years, could become a very critical problem.

If the spent fuel rod pools at the country's 104 nuclear power plants lose their connection to the power grid, the current regulations are not sufficient to guarantee those pools won't boil over, exposing the hot, zirconium-clad rods and sparking fires that would release deadly radiation.
 
CoyotePhysics said:
A week long trucker strike would see most shelves in the grocery store go bare.
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Probably more like three days long.
As for the apocalyptic scenarios, we're all going to die sometime anyways whether peacefully and comfortably or suffering violence.
Might as well figure out how to truly be at peace with that inevitability.
 
pitdog said:
I know that we have many church goers on the forum, do think what is happening is what was predicted in Revelations ?
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The letter from John to the seven churches in the province of Asia, which we now call Revelation, foretold of the coming destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D by Titus and the Roman army. It gave the first century believers in the seven churches the hope that if they endured the coming suffering for a short while ("ten days"), their vindication in Christ would be forever ("a thousand years").

The events foretold by John up through Chapter 19 in Revelation have already occurred. John's apocalyptic language is taken straight out the old testament, which gives us a rational basis for understanding what he was communicating to the 1st century believers. But that language foreshadowed the end of human history - which of course has not yet occurred - when sin and Satin are resolved, and when there will be no more death, mourning, crying or pain for the old order has passed away.

The contemporary invention espoused by fiction writer Tim LaHaye (the Left Behind series), in which God has two plans for two peoples, a "secret" return followed by a rebuilt temple and reinstituted temple sacrifices, is not found in scripture.

Much more could be said, but I don't want to get kicked off Bladeforums, so I'll leave it at that. :thumbup:
 
hoopster said:
Probably more like three days long.
As for the apocalyptic scenarios, we're all going to die sometime anyways whether peacefully and comfortably or suffering violence.
Might as well figure out how to truly be at peace with that inevitability.
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I once heard that food supplies on Vancouver Island would only last 3 days without re-supply from the mainland !
 
Hawkeye5 said:
No, Pitdog I don't buy it. But I would buy a new Knife.

Everything will be O.K.

Jeff
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Yep no worries here. Compare now to the dark ages and we have it good no matter how much "fallout" happens. The world was supposed to end several times in the past 1000 or so years but we're still here. Take a breath and go play with your dogs. Even if the world is coming to an end in a biblical sense there's not much you can do to stop it so live in the now.
 
hoopster said:
Probably more like three days long.
As for the apocalyptic scenarios, we're all going to die sometime anyways whether peacefully and comfortably or suffering violence.
Might as well figure out how to truly be at peace with that inevitability.
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Good point. The only way to truly live is to be at peace with your inevitable demise. Everyone dies. Just make the most out of the time you have.
 
Shotgun said:
Good point. The only way to truly live is to be at peace with your inevitable demise. Everyone dies. Just make the most out of the time you have.
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Everyone dies----

But not everyone lives!!!!!

I'll wager most if not all of the members of this forum live more fully than most others
 
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