Artisan Cutlery?

b00n · Mar 9, 2019

vanadium said:
My theory is that it's a Latin minuscule "a" (for Artisan) stylized to evoke the wàn swastika (which is indeed a Chinese character). I wrote to the company to ask.

UPDATE: The company responded (via IG) and said it's a "stylized character" or "simplified character" which "depicts a man kneeling with a blade on the ground". I asked what Chinese character it's based on, and they told me it's not based on any real language character. I'm a little skeptical (obviously I wasn't talking to the designer of the logo) but it's very nice of them to answer.

Haha, thanks. I can...sort of see a kneeling man, but a blade on the ground...wow..okay? That's a very artisanal way of making a logo...

Arathol · Mar 9, 2019

b00n said:
Haha, thanks. I can...sort of see a kneeling man, but a blade on the ground...wow..okay?

Not on the ground, in the ground.
Man kneeling, head bowed over, arm out stretched with a hand on the end of a sword with the end stuck in the ground.

b00n · Mar 9, 2019

Arathol said:
Not on the ground, in the ground.
Man kneeling, head bowed over, arm out stretched with a hand on the end of a sword with the end stuck in the ground.

Makes...sense. And I get backpain from looking at it.That's just a really awkward logo to me.

Night Rider · Mar 9, 2019

DrRollinstein said:
I wouldn't say they're at WE level, but they are really nice. I have a Damascus and titanium archaeo and it's really neat and well done.

Their website is trash though. PayPal wont let me buy directly through them because it isn't safe. Cheaper to wait for dealers to get them anyways.

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I was just checking that very same knife out 10 minutes ago DrRollinstein. How did you pay for it and do you think it was worth the $ or should I just get one in D2 half the price?

Night Rider · Mar 9, 2019

vanadium said:
FWIW, in most of Asia, the swastika is a common symbol which retains its traditional pre-Nazi connotations.

The Vikings use to sport that very same symbol also FYI.

Arathol · Mar 9, 2019

Night Rider said:
The Vikings use to sport that very same symbol also FYI.

As did the cultures of the Indian sub continent, many native American cultures, and a whole bunch of others for the past several millennia.....

Sergeua · Mar 9, 2019

Looks like a pretty thick blade. Spine and bte

vanadium · Mar 9, 2019

Arathol said:

+1000 for making a useful explanation of this using only color!

Mo2 · Mar 10, 2019

Arathol said:
I have the Waistline in CF (it sure looks like carbon fiber, not some fake crap), and its a "budget knife" in name only. I've seen lesser knives for 4 times the price. It didn't come in a cheap brown box either, but rather a white box with red logos and a nice looking black velvet pouch inside.

Its g10 with thin layer of cf

DrRollinstein · Mar 10, 2019

Night Rider said:
I was just checking that very same knife out 10 minutes ago DrRollinstein. How did you pay for it and do you think it was worth the $ or should I just get one in D2 half the price?

A different site. I'll send you a link if I can find it. Definitely worth it for the price they had it for.

coffeeandknives · Mar 10, 2019

dirc · Mar 10, 2019

I don't 'get' folding cleavers... what does it provide over a normal wharn?? Do you actually ever chop with your folding knife?

coffeeandknives · Mar 10, 2019

dirc said:
I don't 'get' folding cleavers... what does it provide over a normal wharn?? Do you actually ever chop with your folding knife?

Lol. It's a knife, not an axe.
This becomes a much longer conversation that would derail this thread, however the primary characteristic that differentiates a cleaver is the blade dropping down below the tang of the knife which clears the handle of the cutting surface making it better for things like food prep and those types of chopping cuts. It's not made to hold the back of the handle and baton through wood or anything like that.

Cosmodragoon · Mar 10, 2019

dirc said:
I don't 'get' folding cleavers... what does it provide over a normal wharn?? Do you actually ever chop with your folding knife?

I don't personally care for this knife style but here is something to keep in mind. Just because the shape resembles a big clever on a small scale doesn't mean it needs to or will do the same kinds of things. Practically speaking, that shape could perform similarly to a normal Wharncliffe or Sheep's Foot blade. The extra material out above the point or its shape might allow for different fine handling. If nothing else, it might just be relevant in the same way that art can be relevant.

At the very least, that particular knife looks nice on cup of coffee with dairy-based adornments. <3

JD Mandrell · Mar 10, 2019

Here's the boxes I was talking about, all of my Ganzo folders came in the same box, just "Ganzo" instead of "Artisan Cutlery" on them.

And the same colors across different models, Orange, Black, Green, Camo (A really tame faded looking camo) and Pseudo-Carbon Fiber, just makes me suspect they are using the same manufacture for their budget line. I could be wrong, but the similarities just struck me.

Arathol · Mar 10, 2019

JD Mandrell said:
And the same colors across different models, Orange, Black, Green, Camo (A really tame faded looking camo) and Pseudo-Carbon Fiber, just makes me suspect they are using the same manufacture for their budget line. I could be wrong, but the similarities just struck me.

Or get the boxes from the same manufacturer. There are a lot of knife makers in Yangjiang City. It stands to reason that there would need to be suppliers there that provide them all with knife making supplies, some of which would be the same.

JD Mandrell · Mar 10, 2019

Could be, either way, decent knives for the money.

Mo2 · Mar 10, 2019

I'm pretty sure they use very similar factories to ganzo. And that's a bad thing. Cause the cloner brand is not good. But iirc they do the same heat treatment for the D2 and same boxes and same g10 and g10/cf as ganzo.

Also cleavers are just art knives. They are made to sell because people say hey that's cool. Otherwise no one would ever get one for a functional task.

I've lost more respect for AC knowing they have ties in some ways to ganzo if true. But likely we'll never know the real truth of the matter and denial will sure happen.

dirc · Mar 10, 2019

Cosmodragoon said:
I don't personally care for this knife style but here is something to keep in mind. Just because the shape resembles a big clever on a small scale doesn't mean it needs to or will do the same kinds of things. Practically speaking, that shape could perform similarly to a normal Wharncliffe or Sheep's Foot blade. The extra material out above the point or its shape might allow for different fine handling. If nothing else, it might just be relevant in the same way that art can be relevant.

At the very least, that particular knife looks nice on cup of coffee with dairy-based adornments. <3

you know what, that is a good point, ... it would make sense to hold it by the spine and perhaps use it like a handheld plane? or even a draw knife without handles? not in any serious way, but it would be better than a normal wharn/sheep in that use case

coffeeandknives · Mar 10, 2019

Mo2 said:
Also cleavers are just art knives. They are made to sell because people say hey that's cool. Otherwise no one would ever get one for a functional task.

Even with all the ignorant swastika talk, this is the most hilarious statement in this thread. A cleaver is one of the oldest and most used knife shapes in history, dating back to over 1M years ago.