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Attn. All Smatchetorians! . . . Wanna Help Design The Busse Combat Smatchet?. . . Start Drinkin'!!!

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  1. Aug 2, 2019 #1
    Jerry Busse

    Jerry Busse Moderator Moderator

    11,027
    Aug 20, 1999
    Attention all Smatchetorians!!!!

    I have been drawing Smatchet designs for over 1,000 years!!! I know, that seems like a long time, but it dates back to my early days as a knifemaker and I'm pretty sure that was over 1,000 years ago!!!

    I'm going to post a series of different renditions that I have drawn in just the last century for discussion and feedback purposes.

    Here are the rules:

    [ 1 ] You MUST be drinking something! (Alcohol is optional)
    [ 2 ] No Drawings!. . . . Use your words!
    [ 3 ] I will put all drawings in this Original Post and will post when I have added more.

    Let's Drink!!!

    Jerry

    Here are the first 2 of many Drawings:

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    Below is my post #39 on page 2 of this thread.
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    You asked for it longer . . . so here are some 11" long blade models!

    #s 4-9 all have 11 inch blades and are 16.5" OAL
    #s 3-5 have 2.5" Wide blades.
    #s 6-9 have 3.2" Wide blades!!! That's almost a 1/4" wider than the WTF!!!!

    #3 is the 8 1/2 inch blade model like #s 1 and 2.
    #4 same blade width as #3 but is 11 inches long and 2.5" wide
    #5 same as #4 with CBT
    #6 has same width ricasso as 3-5 but has a 3.2" wide blade!
    #7 is the same as #6 but with CBT
    #8 Has an expanded ricasso
    #9 same as #8 but with CBT

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    Below is my post #50 on page 3 of this thread! This is the 11" blade with the expanded fuller!

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    Here are a few more. . . . All of these are shown with an 8 1/2" Blade and all approx. 14" OAL

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    Below is my post #110 on page 6 of this thread!

    Here's a new one that incorporates a number of suggestions.

    Choils and a nice palm swell for comfort when chopping.

    Enhanced fuller.

    Devastating pommel with a small flat for pounding.

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    Below is my post #127 on page 7 of this thread!

    Here's another one that I just finished! :eek::thumbsup::cool:

    It took me the entire bottle. . . .errr. . . I mean "night" to finish this one.:eek:o_O:confused:

    Again, using several suggestions, I have included the shallow choils, feather vane bevels, palm swell handle, rounded pommel, and I moved the talon holes and the handles much further out in order to make the handles cover more of the front guard area!

    I really like the 'Feather Vane" bevel on this 11 inch long blade!:cool::thumbsup::cool:

    Let's Drink!. . .. . I'm going to bed! :cool::thumbsup:

    Jerry :D

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    Below is my post #131 on page 7 of this thread!

    You asked for it. . . . you got it!!!

    Double the fuller!!! . .. Now that's a big fuller!!!!
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    Below is my post #132 on page 7 of this thread!

    Arrrghhhh . . . . Can't sleep. . . . still designing. . . .

    . . . still drinking. . . . . .

    Jerry

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    Below is my post #141 on page 8 of this thread!

    Another killer Cool Combo of blade and handle.

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  2. Aug 2, 2019 #2
    shqxk

    shqxk

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    No cbt would be a great way to start. So number 2 is already perfect :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Aug 2, 2019 #3
    jliang78

    jliang78

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    Mar 21, 2013
    Ohhhhhhh maaaaaan!!!
     
  4. Aug 2, 2019 #4
    JohnTheTexican

    JohnTheTexican Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jul 1, 2006
    I have no words.

    Or booze. Sux to have to have a job.
     
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  5. Aug 2, 2019 #5
    Jerry Busse

    Jerry Busse Moderator Moderator

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    Aug 20, 1999
    Hollow, Flat, or Convex bevel?

    So many questions. . . .so little alcohol . . .

    I'm drinkin'!



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  6. Aug 2, 2019 #6
    Jerry Busse

    Jerry Busse Moderator Moderator

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    Aug 20, 1999
    I'll drink for you JTT . . . . I know. . . I give, I give. . . It's what I do!

    Jerry

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  7. Aug 2, 2019 #7
    JohnTheTexican

    JohnTheTexican Gold Member Gold Member

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    Thanks, Jerry.
    None of the cheap stuff, though.
     
  8. Aug 2, 2019 #8
    lmcq784

    lmcq784 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 5, 2010
    I love this! Any design constraints?
    (size, length, thickness, material?)
     
  9. Aug 2, 2019 #9
    mb>

    mb> Gold Member Gold Member

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    Sep 24, 2014
    Looks a little stubby. Go big. More cowbell.
     
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  10. Aug 2, 2019 #10
    T.A.C.

    T.A.C. Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 25, 2001
    I like #2. A boot knife for me! Lets drink !
     
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  11. Aug 2, 2019 #11
    Jerry Busse

    Jerry Busse Moderator Moderator

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    Aug 20, 1999
    Nope . . . none. . . . ALL of the drawings I'm posting have 8 1/2" blades. The steel will be INFI, but other than that there are no constraints. . . Want it longer? How thick? Shorter? Talk to me!!!


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  12. Aug 2, 2019 #12
    Jerry Busse

    Jerry Busse Moderator Moderator

    11,027
    Aug 20, 1999
    Those are some big boots!!! :D:thumbsup:



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  13. Aug 2, 2019 #13
    JohnTheTexican

    JohnTheTexican Gold Member Gold Member

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    What he said.
    Can we see on with the blade about twice the length of the handle?
    Like maybe 16.5" OAL, with an 11" blade?
     
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  14. Aug 2, 2019 #14
    lmcq784

    lmcq784 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Love the coffin handles, I like the symmetrical choil for additional grip option and sharpening.

    10-12" leaf blade (wrist to elbow in reverse grip), sharpened on one side, so the other side and be used for blunt force smashing and bashing through the trough. We do need a penetrator tip or at least a swedge for getting into the feed bag. Fuller (triple fuller --> short-long-short) and/or CBT to lighten blade for swine swiftness.
     
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  15. Aug 2, 2019 #15
    Private Klink

    Private Klink Gold Member Gold Member

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    It needs to look like a 10" bladed JackHammer! Just saying.....................................
     
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  16. Aug 2, 2019 #16
    MosesMcgregor

    MosesMcgregor Basic Member Basic Member

    151
    Oct 30, 2014
    More blade length, more betta’

    10” minimum on the ol smatchet

    Thin stock Infi / hollow grind to pull some weight out of this wide hog
     
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  17. Aug 2, 2019 #17
    lmcq784

    lmcq784 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I wonder about the leaf shape... Rather than a traditional more symmetrical leaf, can we have a more top-heavy leaf? Having the weight forward can give the heavy weight chop performance, but reduce the weight for carry.

    Think a little straight edge on the bottom quarter or third of the sharpened blade, but tapered out, then curve in with the leaf; think shrinking then mirroring the bolo machete shape; or a leaf shape (upper 3/4 to 2/3) mated to an upside down slim trapezoid (narrow side towards guard and handle).
     
  18. Aug 2, 2019 #18
    MosesMcgregor

    MosesMcgregor Basic Member Basic Member

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    Oct 30, 2014
    Oval fuller
     
  19. Aug 2, 2019 #19
    WatermanChris

    WatermanChris Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Aug 30, 2018
    11" blade, .22" stock, and convex edge.

    As much as I would love a double-edged blade, it may be better to leave it as a swedge with a penetrator tip since double- edged blades are illegal in certain jurisdictions.

    CBT without the fuller or fuller without the CBT. Both gets a little busy for me.
     
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  20. Aug 2, 2019 #20
    not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

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    Those are nice designs. 2 is good. I would suggest going with a 10-12" blade and grinding it from 3/16" stock. 1/4" with such a wide blade can get excessively heavy.

    n2s
     
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