Bad Avoid VULDR like the plague

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`br4dz- said:
You're right, but if you had to deal with this guy, you'd be quite resentful and angry as well. I have not been avoiding him like he's been avoiding me, and I've been very prompt with replies and upfront about everything, so I'm extremely P.O.'d to say the least when he claims I sold him something defective, but doesn't seem to be pursuing for a return. I've already admitted that I could have dealt with things a little better early on, but there is no reason I should be made out to be the bad guy in all of this. I've been quite aggressive because he accused me of quite a few things even before the, what I would consider, mild insults I threw his way.
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Your comments don't warrant a reply from me if they consist of ~80% insults swung at me.

I simply stated that the knife wasn't as described and didn't initially ask for a return because I thought we could come up with a resolution peacefully but you were adamant about the knife not being extremely stiff/almost impossible to open.

No one is making you out to the bad guy.
 
Vuldr said:
You couldn't have stated it better. The moment I added feedback regarding the transaction, I was done with it. I clearly knew with the words conveyed, the problem would have no resolution. As of right now, I have no intentions of sending the knife back to the seller since they are clearly angry. Anger clouds judgment and shows your true character. I wouldn't want any more problems to arise once they receive the knife back, not saying that there would be any.

Creating this thread was unnecessary in my own eyes but whatever makes the seller happy is their decision. I don't see any problems being a "first time buyer", everyone has to start somewhere? I have numerous transactions; selling and mostly buying but I often forget to add feedback.
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Dude. You left negative feedback at 3 in the morning, without making a big stink about anything. I offered a couple of solutions to you, and instead of pushing for any sort of return you decide it's best to submit negative feedback and leave it at that. There wasn't a single insult from me before you took that initiative. I apologize for some of the insulting, but I definitely didn't cast the first stone. I will repeat, and stand by the fact that the knife was 100% FULLY functional and operable and able to be flipped open with ease when it left my hands. This was a tested knife, so I know what I sold you. I am not a retail store that doesn't test what I sell, nor can I eat the cost of whatever you felt was "right" in this case. If you're unhappy with it, send it back and pay for shipping, even though you took a torx driver to it and could have potentially screwed something up on your end. How are you comfortable eating the cost of $140 if you truly believe I sent you something defective? That makes zero sense to me. I've given you plenty of resolutions and you refuse every single one.
 
`br4dz- said:
And let me chime in again. He complains that I sold him a defective knife, has zero issue trashing my feedback reputation with his negative score, but he isnt pushing for a refund at all. This guy makes zero sense to me. If the knife is defective why is he questioning what he will do with it? It all sounds like complete bs and like he wanted to somehow get something extra out of this. Unbelievable.
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Hes probably questioning what to do with it because you've been acting like a jerk a bit
 
I must say that this thread and another ongoing at the moment and MANY others in GBU seem like 1st graders in a playground. :( Just be adults, make it work out even if not to your complete satisfaction, stop accusing and fix it; it isn't a bank merger. :rolleyes: If one of you has to be the adult because you believe the other won't, then "be the adult"; everyone will notice. :cool: My unsolicited .02.
 
As in have noted on similar threads recently a deal is not done until both parties are satisfied. In my view this deal should have gone like this:

  1. Buyer receives knife.
  2. Buyer is dissatisfied with knife
  3. Buyer contacts seller and say is unhappy for reason xyz
  4. Seller says "sorry to hear that ship it back to me and I will issue a refund
  5. Buyer ships back
  6. Seller issues a refund
  7. Seller re-lists and sells knife to someone else and everyone lives happily ever after
Seller you don't get to sell the knife and then say it was fine by your standards. Your standards don't matter. The customer decides if the knife is to their standard and is satisfied or not accordingly. I would never buy something from a seller who thinks that they get to tell me that I should be happy with what they think is adequate.
 
I know that I've overlooked details of a transaction before. Knowing what I would want done if it were me on the receiving end of said oversight, I always try and go above and beyond to ensure the buyer is satisfied. Within reason, of course.

While I am not trying to say that you've overlooked anything, I do believe, strongly, that you could have remedied this situation fairly easily. I would've addressed the insinuation of you selling him a faulty knife, calmly, and offered him a return. If it were important to you, you could try and have him pay for your shipping costs but being that you've had 300+ good transactions, being out $5 one time probably wasn't worth all of this hassle. I would've just accepted a return and wash my hands of it. Too much drama.

Dealing with people is chaos. You're willingly dealing with chaos, it happens.
 
This thread has seemed to make a true turn around and it's not working out for the OP. The need to be right has surpassed everything to where it is now all wrong. Sad, but hopefully will be a lesson learned; but not sure that will be the case here .
 
Oh, I think it’s working out just fine for the OP, aside from nostrils flaring a bit, this thread was needed. What V Vuldr posted as a reason for the negative feedback is way wrong according to the sales thread. It was never listed as a new knife, the OP was never contacted before the feedback was given.
Granted, negative feedback is more of a pride thing than anything else, but with this thread, both parties can be evaluated to determine whom to deal with. Now I know who not to ever sell a knife to.
 
All of the comments speak for themselves. I've already admitted that I could have handled the situation a little better, but the buyer was unwilling to cooperate or take responsibility for the fact that he messed with the knife before ever contacting me, also claiming that a 100% fully functional knife was defective, when it was indeed not defective. Not to mention unwilling to accept my offer for a return, so said buyer refuses to be happy no matter the circumstances. That's on him, not me, at this point onward. I'm not sure what he wished to gain from complaining, leaving negative feedback, being offered a refund and not accepting, that does not bode well for his image or future transactions for him. I'm locking this thread since no further discussion is needed, unless he decides to take my offer and things progress from there.
 
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