Böker Plus Epicenter

Yup not a bad knife with the materials and the price. I was able to acquire a second run production for under 120 shipped and I'm quite pleased with it. Titanium frame lock with a super thick stock VG-10 blade for under 120, how? Yea made in China of course..
All said its a good deal and looks and works well, ala lionsteel. My knife had all the previous issues cleared up regarding the off center scales, my only bad thing was the blade was off center by a hair. If I tightened up the pivot to where the blade was centered no way was it going to be opened with the thumbstud. I found that happy medium where the blade is off by about 1mm but opens good with no play in any direction. Mine did not come with a tool for the proprietary screw head on the other side of the pivot, but it did come with a torx bit for the scale screws. It didn't fit the pivot thankfully I have other bits that fit perfect. You can still adjust the pivot, like OP said, using pressure with your thumb on the proprietary side and a torx on the other. Worked fine for me with the several adjustments I went through to find that happy medium with the pivot.
Now opening the thing with the thumbstuds is another story. The arc, the radius from thumbstud to pivot, is pretty large so opening is not too easy the conventional way. I found that using the thumbstud to push forward and not outward worked fine for me, and ideally the forward push with a light wrist flick worked super! I got it to pop open nicely with just a tad bid of practice, it is different but you can find that sweet spot.
All in all I'm quite happy with it, not my edc (little heavy for that) but perfect for a coat pocket in my opinion. It's my weekend warrior knife...
 
I just got one yesterday, the fit and finish is just about perfect. The blade is just slightly off-centered, I'm sure I can adjust it, but I'm going to leave it alone until it breaks in a little.

I'm really glad I found out about this knife, I wanted something similar to the Lionsteel SR-1 but I didn't want to drop almost 4 bills.
At $130 shipped, anyone wanting a heavy titanium framelock will love this knife.
 
I keep thinking about getting one, or maybe two, of the Epicenter. I had planned on getting at least one this past week but then a Lionsteel SR-1-B caught my eye, and there went my Epicenter. But not to fear I will be getting one in a few weeks and look forward to it. The off centered blade is usually a quick and easy fix, so that does not turn me off. From all I'm reading it seems that the second generation run has really upgraded the first batch to appear. Btw, what type of washer's does it have, teflon, bronze, or nylatron?
 
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The Todd Rexford designed Boker Epicenter has hit the market again. It's full titanium handles, unforgiving frame lock, VG-10 horizontally finished blade and decorative barrel spacers are just a few features that can be found on this beauty. An extra special touch is the marking of an "epicenter" just as you would see on a map as the thumb ramp jimping. Smooth action and super clean lines complete this as a tactical or edc ready for just about anything.
 
cutter17 said:
I keep thinking about getting one, or maybe two, of the Epicenter. I had planned on getting at least one this past week but then a Lionsteel SR-1-B caught my eye, and there went my Epicenter. But not to fear I will be getting one in a few weeks and look forward to it. The off centered blade is usually a quick and easy fix, so that does not turn me off. From all I'm reading it seems that the second generation run has really upgraded the first batch to appear. Btw, what type of washer's does it have, teflon, bronze, or nylatron?
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It has bronze washers.

IMO this knife is a real sleeper. If it carried the Benchmade or Kershaw name it would sell for 2x the price.
 
JPD1998 said:
It has bronze washers.

IMO this knife is a real sleeper. If it carried the Benchmade or Kershaw name it would sell for 2x the price.
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agree, but....it would also be made in america which would justify the 2x the cost. just saying.
 
jbmonkey said:
agree, but....it would also be made in america which would justify the 2x the cost. just saying.
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Well I didn't really bring up country of origin because both Kershaw and BM ( under the HK brand) sell imports...

So I stand at what I originally posted and will add: If the Epicenter was a US made Kershaw or BM it might be 3x the price ( check out the Acies - US made by KAI for AG Russell).
just saying
 
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JPD1998 said:
Well I didn't really bring up country of origin because both Kershaw and BM ( under the HK brand) sell imports...

So I stand at what I originally posted and will add: If the Epicenter was a US made Kershaw or BM it might be 3x the price ( check out the Acies - US made by KAI for AG Russell).
just saying
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Yeah agreed again, but the closest benchmade would be something along the lines of the hk conspriacy. At not quite half the cost, but lesser materials. The kershaws made in china aren't priced anywhere near the epicenter, as they are not really competitors other than being knives. All the above all good stuff...I own a bunch of chinese made stuff and like 'em.

My comment wasn't meant to be a country thing...I was adding, poorly though, to your comment of the bargin of the epicenter which it is if you get a good one.....I didn't.....but the bargin is the made in china. Which is what allows the cheaper price. If zt/kershaw made it it would be twice the price but made in the usa. Last time I looked the higher end materials knives kershaw/zt made were usa made. Which means higher prices.

Sorry if I came off the wrong way, wasn't meant too. I'm no good at turning thoughts into words. In the end though the bargin of the epicenter is the low labor costs of made in china. Made in europe or north america the bargin of lower priced goes away. Just saying. Btw that's a florida phrase meant to add to a thought, not meant as a demeaning or smart alleck comment. Not sure how that translates outside of florida. Thanks for the follow up and counter points.
 
jbmonkey said:
Yeah agreed again, but the closest benchmade would be something along the lines of the hk conspriacy. At not quite half the cost, but lesser materials. The kershaws made in china aren't priced anywhere near the epicenter, as they are not really competitors other than being knives. All the above all good stuff...I own a bunch of chinese made stuff and like 'em.

My comment wasn't meant to be a country thing...I was adding, poorly though, to your comment of the bargin of the epicenter which it is if you get a good one.....I didn't.....but the bargin is the made in china. Which is what allows the cheaper price. If zt/kershaw made it it would be twice the price but made in the usa. Last time I looked the higher end materials knives kershaw/zt made were usa made. Which means higher prices.

Sorry if I came off the wrong way, wasn't meant too. I'm no good at turning thoughts into words. In the end though the bargin of the epicenter is the low labor costs of made in china. Made in europe or north america the bargin of lower priced goes away. Just saying. Btw that's a florida phrase meant to add to a thought, not meant as a demeaning or smart alleck comment. Not sure how that translates outside of florida. Thanks for the follow up and counter points.
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Hey we're all friends here..... I didn't take any offense and after reading about the issues you had with the knife , I understand where you were coming from.

Too bad about the bad luck you had with yours, maybe they can send you one more?
 
JPD1998 said:
Hey we're all friends here..... I didn't take any offense and after reading about the issues you had with the knife , I understand where you were coming from.

Too bad about the bad luck you had with yours, maybe they can send you one more?
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Yes Sir. I figured, just didn't want to forget my manners.

I've thought about it off and on. Its all cosmetic flaws though and I don't want to be a bigger whiner than I already have been. Although I did pay allot for a fellow like me for it, and I know boker would make it good.

Funny thing is I had almost gotten over the cosmetic flaws, but then I noticed the detent hole in the blade is much larger than the detent ball and so the blade rattles, maybe better put wobbles..... back and forth and while still cosmetic it just annoys me everytime I pick it up.

Yeah maybe I should just send it in. Good advice, thank you Sir.
 
jbmonkey said:
Yes Sir. I figured, just didn't want to forget my manners.

I've thought about it off and on. Its all cosmetic flaws though and I don't want to be a bigger whiner than I already have been. Although I did pay allot for a fellow like me for it, and I know boker would make it good.

Funny thing is I had almost gotten over the cosmetic flaws, but then I noticed the detent hole in the blade is much larger than the detent ball and so the blade rattles, maybe better put wobbles..... back and forth and while still cosmetic it just annoys me everytime I pick it up.

Yeah maybe I should just send it in. Good advice, thank you Sir.
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When it comes to quality issues, cosmetic or functional ..... if the flaws bother you then you should get a replacement.
Even if you tell yourself the flaws shouldn't bother you.
 
Damnit....Just saw the Epicenter in the local shop. I almost bought it.

If there would have been holes for left hand pocketclip carry in it I wouldn't have been able to resist the temptation I think.

Gorgeous knife. Too bad that the nicest Bökers aren't lefthand friendly.
 
Mine was scratching (scraping ?) during opening and closing. Generally, this is symptomatic of a dirty knife and / or washers with burr(s).
So I dismanteled it to see what was going on and as you can see on the pictures, it was dirty and the 2 washers needed to be sanded (trimmed ?), I used a 10K grit waterstone. I had to do the same with cheap (sub-20$) chinese Enlan and Navy knives. But all my SanRenMu knives came cleaner than this Böker (that is 10 to 20 times the price of SRM knives).
Anyway, I like this knife.


 
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That is pretty bad and a real shame too. All they had to do was spend a few more minutes cleaning it up.
It looks like they forced the pivot bolt through a washer that was slightly smaller to cause that burr.
 
Back to the top, and why you may ask? Simple, I just purchased one that should be here by weeks end. Figure this will be a good test for my recovered (hopefully) thumb.
 
cutter17 said:
Back to the top, and why you may ask? Simple, I just purchased one that should be here by weeks end. Figure this will be a good test for my recovered (hopefully) thumb.
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I've had my Epicenter for almost 9 months, I like it more now than I did when I first got it.
The blade pushes out real easy and it can be flicked open too. The blade is pretty heavy.
One of the things I really like is the heft of the knife, some might disagree, but I like the heavy feel of it.
 
That heavy feel is what I like to have in ALL my edc's so I am sure the Epicenter will not dissapoint in that respect. I've had neuropathy in the tips of the fingers on my right hand since the spinal stroke I suffered this past July. Healing has been slow, slower than I want it to be, but the tingling and burning has pretty much left my fingertips so I'm ready to try a thumbstuded knife once again!

The heavy blade will certaintly aid in helping to get the blade moving, and keeping it moving until locking open. One thing I will probably do, and something I always do, will be to put more bend in the lockbar to make it stiffer and less likely to come unlocked because the lockbar slips over. But one result of doing this will be more pressure on the closed blade, making opening it a degree or two more difficult. As I said though, I believe my thumb is up to the task once again!!:thumbup::)
 
cutter17 said:
That heavy feel is what I like to have in ALL my edc's so I am sure the Epicenter will not dissapoint in that respect. I've had neuropathy in the tips of the fingers on my right hand since the spinal stroke I suffered this past July. Healing has been slow, slower than I want it to be, but the tingling and burning has pretty much left my fingertips so I'm ready to try a thumbstuded knife once again!

The heavy blade will certaintly aid in helping to get the blade moving, and keeping it moving until locking open. One thing I will probably do, and something I always do, will be to put more bend in the lockbar to make it stiffer and less likely to come unlocked because the lockbar slips over. But one result of doing this will be more pressure on the closed blade, making opening it a degree or two more difficult. As I said though, I believe my thumb is up to the task once again!!:thumbup::)
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I think you'll find it easy to open.
You're right about the lockbar, mine has an early lockup, but I'm OK with that.

Good luck with your recovery.
 
Thanks JPD. I also like, and want, early lockup. On a properly made liner/frame locker the liner position on the blade tang will not be affected, just the stiffness of the lockbar. At least this has been my experience, and what I am expecting from the Epicenter.
 
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