bark river 3v tang

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Jastab said:
So they skeletonize them differently depending on blade steels? I'm so confused why.... we need pics
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A2 version - the tang is fully skeletonized

3V version- the tang is skeletonized but the middle part

S35vn version- I'm not sure how the tang looks but for their stainless steel version there is an additional lanyard/pommel on the butt of the knife.


These are only for their bravo versions and I don't know how it is on different models. Hope this helps.
 
Where did you do the x ray? I'm wondering what is going on with BRK quality control. I just bought a BRK Bravo 1 last week in ghost green jade. The handle is transparent. I looked at it in the sun just now hoping they slipped up and gave me a 3V instead. :) But I guess they got mine right, it's A2. Fully skeletonized. Geez I'd be worried about other versions besides Bravo 1.
 
I'll bet you a dime they don't make the mistake of stamping A2 on their 3v stock. That "mistake" would be too costly to overlook.
 
I must say this is a new low. Be it a mistake, maybe, this ensures that Bark River will never get my money. How was this handled by customer service?
 
RUNIT said:
I must say this is a new low. Be it a mistake, maybe, this ensures that Bark River will never get my money. How was this handled by customer service?
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I called brkt, at first they said as long as the box and knife is stamped 3v it's a 3v period. They told me to contact Jason at DLT where I purchased it (knowing that I already told them that it's been a year since I've bought it). Jason called mike Stewart regarding the problem and mike himself told me that it's definitely an A2 and asked me to send the knife and they'll replace it.

I would much prefer if they can just refund me the amount difference between a2 and 3v since I still have the copy of my receipt or just return it and get a store credit from DLT. But ofcourse I have to send the knife in first. I'm going to give them a call tom. And ask them that they should pay for the shipping since it's a manufacturing defect.
 
If they believe in good customer service, they should most definitely pay for your shipping expense. Its totally their poor quality control. Please let us know how they handle this problem. I'll be looking for updates. I just bought my first BRK, and I'd like to know how they handle it before I do any repeat buys from them.
 
I sure hope that they will pay for the shipping. Bark River makes a ton of Bravo knives and I hope this is just an isolated event. I tried searching for a pic of the tang differences but all I saw was the A2. Have you seen a pic of the differences?
 
Jastab said:
So they skeletonize them differently depending on blade steels? I'm so confused why.... we need pics
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It makes sense for any manufacturer to mark their blades with holes or a different skeletonization pattern, especially when the same model is offered in various steels. Why? Because when you have a ton or two of raw steel blanks sitting on a work bench, it makes identification a much simpler task. A mistake can potentially cost a company thousands of dollars. Why risk such a costly mistake when it can be remedied so easily? Most raw steel looks the same, S90V, 440C, Elmax, ATS-34, M390, etc. impossible to tell what a steel is if they get mixed up.
Benchmade marks their Griptilian series knives with various small holes in the blade. They offer the same knives in M390, S30V, D2, and 154-CM.

Ponsau said:
Where did you do the x ray? I'm wondering what is going on with BRK quality control. I just bought a BRK Bravo 1 last week in ghost green jade. The handle is transparent. I looked at it in the sun just now hoping they slipped up and gave me a 3V instead. :) But I guess they got mine right, it's A2. Fully skeletonized. Geez I'd be worried about other versions besides Bravo 1.
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I guess you didn't read the first page? Post 12 answers this question. ;)
 
RevDevil said:
It makes sense for any manufacturer to mark their blades with holes or a different skeletonization pattern, especially when the same model is offered in various steels. Why? Because when you have a ton or two of raw steel blanks sitting on a work bench, it makes identification a much simpler task. A mistake can potentially cost a company thousands of dollars. Why risk such a costly mistake when it can be remedied so easily? Most raw steel looks the same, S90V, 440C, Elmax, ATS-34, M390, etc. impossible to tell what a steel is if they get mixed up.
Benchmade marks their Griptilian series knives with various small holes in the blade. They offer the same knives in M390, S30V, D2, and 154-CM.
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This is how they do it but I remember that when they did the stainless run they put the external lanyard loop for identification instead of hiding the difference under the handle scales. Seems like that is a better method.
 
RUNIT said:
This is how they do it but I remember that when they did the stainless run they put the external lanyard loop for identification instead of hiding the difference under the handle scales. Seems like that is a better method.
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I only have one BRKT, it's stamped S35VN. It was a gift for Father's Day, and I'm afraid I don't know much about them. So that pommel loop is exclusive to the S35 versions?
 
RevDevil said:
I only have one BRKT, it's stamped S35VN. It was a gift for Father's Day, and I'm afraid I don't know much about them. So that pommel loop is exclusive to the S35 versions?
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For the bravo line yes but I'm not sure with other models. IMO it doesn't look good aesthetically. From what I've read s35vn was developed with the help of Chris reeve, now if I hear Chris reeve automatically I think about combat and survival and that lanyard hole doesnt make sense (design wise) But I guess I can always make brkt grind that little lanyard hole out for me.
 
Speaking of BRK quality control... I just bought a bravo 1 a week ago. I noticed the flat grind part of the blade on one side is longer than the other. One side is about 8 1/4 cm, the other about 7 1/2 cm long. Its not a deal breaker. The convex grind is even, and otherwise the blade is great. Is this a slip up when they grind the blade? Quality control issue? Or is this normal? What do you guys think? Here are pics of what I'm talking about. I know its kind of hard to tell from the pics, but i tried to lay the ruler as close as possible to show it. Also you can tell when you look down the spine of the blade. I also have shots showing the length of the flat edge to the tip. I think that one is more obvious. Like I said, I'm happy with the knife, Not planning on sending it back. Just wanted to throw it out there.





 
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got knife? said:
A2 version - the tang is fully skeletonized

3V version- the tang is skeletonized but the middle part

S35vn version- I'm not sure how the tang looks but for their stainless steel version there is an additional lanyard/pommel on the butt of the knife.


These are only for their bravo versions and I don't know how it is on different models. Hope this helps.
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That helps a lot!! I had no idea about this.
 
Man....I find myself being on this forum too much. It's addicting! Lol

Ponsau, brkt knives are hand ground but jeez that flat grind is way too high. Mine starts close to the middle (knifenuts please correct me if I'm wrong). Plus I also noticed that the micro choil is almost nothing. Brkt's spec on the blade height (spine to edge) is a little bit more than an inch (1.1-1.3). Assuming you haven't reprofiled the edge it should be within that spec but if it is an inch or less. Call brkt
 
Yeah it seemed high, but I've looked at several for sale on knives ship free and the knife connection. If you look at dozens of those there are many that are different. I figured the large variation was from hand grinding. Check this one out. It's on knives ship free, and has almost a full convex grind. My blade is a tenth over an inch, so I think the width is good.

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3...an_239_95_600__02680.1374801786.1280.1280.jpg
 
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Ponsau said:
Yeah it seemed high, but I've looked at several for sale on knives ship free and the knife connection. If you look at dozens of those there are many that are different. I figured the large variation was from hand grinding. Check this one out. It's on knives ship free, and has almost a full convex grind. My blade is a tenth over an inch, so I think the width is good.

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3...an_239_95_600__02680.1374801786.1280.1280.jpg
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Interesting....I wonder what their tolerances are. Btw survive knives interests me. They use powdered steels like brkt but they actually sell them less. I need to do my googlefu
 
Yeah! I've also looked at Survive knives as well. I'd love to grab the 4.1
I found some videos of the knives on YouTube.
 
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