That's the first I've heard of it. The BSA is pretty good at picking a turd up from the clean end. But ultimately, on an issue like knife use, it would depend on the scout leader. If a scout is using their knife exactly like I've taught them, I am ok with that obviously. It's complete disregard for safety that I am concerned with. A fixed blade is no more dangerous than a folder, and batoning is totally safe as long as it is being done properly, IMHOs. I don't know a thing about your scout leader, Kiltknifeguy, to make a statement on his decisions as a leader. I hope he was a great one, and you thoroughly enjoyed your scouting experience.
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Batoning Broken Down
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That's the first I've heard of it. The BSA is pretty good at picking a turd up from the clean end. But ultimately, on an issue like knife use, it would depend on the scout leader. If a scout is using their knife exactly like I've taught them, I am ok with that obviously. It's complete disregard for safety that I am concerned with. A fixed blade is no more dangerous than a folder, and batoning is totally safe as long as it is being done properly, IMHOs. I don't know a thing about your scout leader, Kiltknifeguy, to make a statement on his decisions as a leader. I hope he was a great one, and you thoroughly enjoyed your scouting experience.
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Its been posted here time and time again. Apparently, and I'll rest on the several posts I've seen in the past 2 years, the official stance of BSA is that fixed blades are not recommended and it has been this way for some time now. However, some troops do appear to bend the rules. Usually, those leaders end up posting in places like this one about how another rule-follower leader didn't like them bending the rules per se....
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I've seen it stated both ways. This kind of sums up the problem.
http://scoutingaround.com/boy-scouts/camping/58-totin-chip-session-outline.html
"7. Scouts should only carry a folding blade - While there is no official national rule against scouts carrying a fix blade most Boy Scout camps do have a policy of no fixed blades. Older Scouts might remember when the Boy Scouts sold fixed blade knifes which had about four inch blades. Many scouts decided they wanted bigger knifes so they started to bring seven and eight inch knifes. In the interest of safety scout camps forbid them. In most cases only small knife is needed."
They seem to want you to use a "pocketknife", a saw, and an axe. Not exactly batoning friendly.
Finally got to start my batoning project today. Went to harvest a round from blown down maple tree(I believe it's a maple).
From whence it came.
The piece with my TOPS Steel Eagle and my beater stick (baton).
These first splits will be the bottoms of the bowls. The pieces will be carved into spoons.
Split the round in halves. These halves will be burned out to make the bowls.
My TOPS shadow hunter did a great job of debarking the "wood-be" spoons. The thumb chimping was a little uncomfortable though.
That's as far as I got for now. I need to let the halves dry out for a while. They were still dripping wet. I don't know how long that will take, but I will be working on the spoons for now. I'll post some more pics as it progresses.
From whence it came.
The piece with my TOPS Steel Eagle and my beater stick (baton).
These first splits will be the bottoms of the bowls. The pieces will be carved into spoons.
Split the round in halves. These halves will be burned out to make the bowls.
My TOPS shadow hunter did a great job of debarking the "wood-be" spoons. The thumb chimping was a little uncomfortable though.
That's as far as I got for now. I need to let the halves dry out for a while. They were still dripping wet. I don't know how long that will take, but I will be working on the spoons for now. I'll post some more pics as it progresses.
GREAT ODEN'S RAVEN! That is one good lookin' steel eagle! I was just thinking about taking SOME of the traction off, but man that looks good. Did you have to sand it to get that glass blasted texture off the steel, or just polish it? I am really partial to saw backs, and to me TOPS has the best. Plus they're so mean looking.
Yeah but that's D2.
I love the shape of this knife and fix my need very good!
But when I received for the first time, the edge was in very bad shape... not dull but hardly working as knife.
Becouse the edge need a good reprofile , I had to send to Richard j to modify the knife to convex edge. after all this.... now the knife works 100% better & difficult beat. :thumbup:
Yes Richard did the sandblast finish but that didn't work out, I had minor rust problem, "we're dealing with 1095 right" so I decided to cold blue finish my steel eagle:thumbup: not more rust issue
To give you an idea..see the pic.
Richard can be reached at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/ress6fq6/
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/member.php?u=198424
At the beginning
minor rust...
Afterwards.....cold blue
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Thanks.
I did few Mod myself & I can tell you that can be done by hand with simple tolls like file, sandpaper, stone etc..but will take same time.
From this
to this
to this
to this
without using any machinery:thumbup:
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I baton 
sometimes I get carried away , but I had just made the knife soooo its understandable
I cut steel cans up to make stoves
I shave curlies for firestarting
and boiled some water to have a reason to justify the fun .. almost
batoning is fun but I dont do it a lot .. this knife was special , a gift to a friend who liked cowboy movies where they opened their cans of beans with their bowies and they never lest their shaving sharp edge .... I made him one that he could do the same with , even if it wasnt a bowie
sometimes I get carried away , but I had just made the knife soooo its understandable
I cut steel cans up to make stoves
I shave curlies for firestarting
and boiled some water to have a reason to justify the fun .. almost
batoning is fun but I dont do it a lot .. this knife was special , a gift to a friend who liked cowboy movies where they opened their cans of beans with their bowies and they never lest their shaving sharp edge .... I made him one that he could do the same with , even if it wasnt a bowie
Can anyone tell me from what book these images originated? Any help greatly appreciated.
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Another Batoning thread . Yeehaw . Buy a hatchet
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Actually, there's a third opinion - that while it may be useful sometimes, it gets an absurd amount of attention and discussion for what it actually is, and the amount of skill it actually requires. But guaranteed, two weeks from now there will be yet another new thread about batonning...
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I don't suppose I will ever use a knife to baton something. I certainly have knives that are suitable (BK-2, BK-7, BK-9, Esse 6, Campbell Saguero, etc.) but I usually carry a small folding saw, a small hatchet and a small knife when in the woods. They are very light and more suitable for wood processing than a knife.