Be VERY Careful with infidel86!...

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Casinostocks,
I agree with number 1...my mistake on that, I was under the impression that if a thread is stated clearly and the person says I'll take it, the deal is a good one. As I said, my mistake on that.

with regard to you second point, I knew the restocking fees were ridiculous when I posted them, they were never intended to be something I would apply...just trying to make a point.

On number three, the freebies only came up because he was dissatisfied with the purchase, yet didn't throw in a thanks. Maybe it's just me, but if I got something with no cost attached, whether I wanted it or not, I'd thank the person that gave me the item...like I said, maybe it's just my way of thinking...and the sarcastic, "gracious gift" remark, didn't help to cool me off either.

Thank you for weighing in, it's appreciated. I now know, as of early this morning, that I was wrong to consider a deal is done, when the recipient gets the package. Which brings me to another point...I've seen members put in their threads, "All sales final"...how can this be, if the recipient of the package doesn't have the goods yet...can't that person still call off the deal once the package arrives, regardless of, "All sales final"?

Like I said, thanks for weighing in. Stay safe, Joe.

Joe, honestly that type of disclosure does not hold and it's worth nothing when transacting electronically online and using payment conduits such as PayPal. Perhaps that sort of verbiage only serves to discourage the time wasting looky-loos and the consummate tire kickers!
 
Quiet,
I thank you also, for weighing in. My frustration got the best of me in his profile page, as I think SOME of the responsibility lies with him...I may have been able to sell the items to another person, on another site, who seemed interested. I had the rules wrong, as I've stated many times in this thread, about when a deal is done...MY mistake there. Ignoring him is your choice and I'm not asking, nor expecting any other BF members to blackball the guy...everyone's personal decision. I'm just relating what happened to me this week...naturally, I won't deal with him again.

Still no response as to which knife, or both, he wants to return...who knows?
Stay safe and thank you for your addition.
Later, Joe.
 
Casinostocks,
I understand what you mean...the, "All sales final" addition to a thread.
Thanks, Joe.
 
jbmonkey,
Almost forgot to thank you for weighing in also, it's appreciated!
Keep using those special platinum powers.
Stay safe, Joe.
 
stonesell,
Thank you for weighing in, if I haven't thanked you previously.
Offer tendered, for items he wants to return, in undamaged condition...no reply yet.
Stay safe, Joe.
 
LizaMari,
If you posted something, I don't see it. If you didn't, then thank you for the like, it's appreciated.
Stay safe, Joe.
 
Quiet,
I thank you also, for weighing in. My frustration got the best of me in his profile page, as I think SOME of the responsibility lies with him...I may have been able to sell the items to another person, on another site, who seemed interested. I had the rules wrong, as I've stated many times in this thread, about when a deal is done...MY mistake there. Ignoring him is your choice and I'm not asking, nor expecting any other BF members to blackball the guy...everyone's personal decision. I'm just relating what happened to me this week...naturally, I won't deal with him again.

Still no response as to which knife, or both, he wants to return...who knows?
Stay safe and thank you for your addition.
Later, Joe.

Joe, I know some folks have gotten on your case due to your being aggravated in this thread. I get that. However, the fact remains that there's really only one valid reason why someone should be sending knives back, and that's because they discovered some flaw or damage that you failed to disclose. I am aware that others will disagree, and if they don't like my viewpoint, they're free to place me on ignore and never do business with me. Frankly, as you stated originally, most of us aren't stores. If I sell a knife, I'm a private seller who posted good pictures, made myself available to answer ANY questions a potential buyer might PM me with, and I always stand ready to take additional pictures and send them out. My point is, a buyer knows what they are getting when those knives leave my hand. And they should know. I am not sending knives along for a free ballfondling and an "Eeeehhhhh, I don't like these as much as I thought I did, I want my money back because I feel buyer's remorse." This means that I am out the money for the sale, and now (as you were) out the opportunity cost where someone else might have bought those knives, saw they were sold so they moved on and spent their money on something else. Now, all that said, I'm totally ok with someone contacting me to ask if the deal could be reversed because the knives didn't wow them for subjective (on their end) reasons. I might even be inclined to reverse the deal if I'm familiar with that member, provided my knives show back up in the same condition. But, any situation where that's an expectation is where I draw the line. I would be posting in here myself. "Member XYZ likes to tirekick, deal with caution" and let the membership decide for themselves.

Recently, I have seen several threads where someone is selling a knife on the Exchange who just purchased it and they state so candidly. "This wasn't for me, here's a link to the thread where I bought it, so I'm just trying to get back what I spent." To those people, I say good on you for being standup forum members. You bought something, ended up not liking it, and then moved it along to someone else. That is quality behavior.

This is why I always say: do your research. Receiving the knife in question is not the time to find out that ehhhhhh, you don't really like it after all. In my estimation, that's on you, not the seller. I'll close with once again stating for anyone reading: if you don't like my stance, feel free to add me to your "Do Not Do Business With" list. I won't mind, and it'll make both our lives easier, I guarantee it.
 
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Quiet,
I'm in 100% agreement, with all you said. Being up front, providing as much info. as possible and as many pics. as asked for, is on the seller. I felt my thread was completely accurate and as far as I can tell, the reason infidel86 wants to return the Franklin tanto, is because HE didn't read the thread correctly. That's where my frustration began and yes, I may have gotten too pissed off. However, because my thread was clear and I lost a possible opportunity to sell to someone else who seemed interested well, that's what really bothered me.

If I would've been him and he me, I would've kept the knives and I would try to sell the one I made the mistake on...that's where the personal responsibility thorn in my ass, comes into play.

As I said, I think what you said is right on the money. Thanks yet again, for your input, it's appreciated. Stay safe, Joe.
 
katanas, sharp_edge & All others who have weighed in or given this thread a like,
Thank you ALL Very Much for your input, TRULY appreciated!
I'm going to put another post on infidel86's profile page, to try to reach him. As I've said here, I'm offering a full refund on whatever he wants to return, as long as the merchandise is in the same condition in which he received it. Don't know why I haven't heard anything yet.

Once again, I thank you ALL...still trying to get this resolved.
Stay safe, Joe.
 
Still no word from infidel86...last time he was in the forum was just after noon, on Wednesday.
Considering sending him a note in the mail, telling him to check out his profile page...he'll see the offer to return what he doesn't want, is there.
 
Still no word from infidel86...last time he was in the forum was just after noon, on Wednesday.
Considering sending him a note in the mail, telling him to check out his profile page...he'll see the offer to return what he doesn't want, is there.
Sometimes, silence is a type of ignorance.
Perhaps he has lost interest, since you are now willing to guarantee his satisfaction with the purchase, and he can’t create more drama with a PayPal claim.
 
Or maybe he just lost interest in dealing with this guy. I know I would have.
Yeah, dealing with people can be complicated. Many times, some choose avoidance, rather than risk more confrontation.
 
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What can I say other than, I would return his funds, if he wants to return the item(s), as he received them. It's not worth any more frustration.
Norcaldude...if avoiding a solution is someones's choice, so be it. I can't make up for HIS mistake, more than, be willing to refund the $ for what he doesn't want.

In a nutshell, MY mistake for thinking a deal is done, once an item in a thread is described, to a T and then shipped. I've bent over backward to help people, when they're not satisfied...I've said that in this thread. Collecting, selling and trading knives, is a passion of mine, not a money making venture.

If the situation was reversed and I didn't read the thread correctly, MY mistake and I would try to sell the knife, rather than ask to send it back. A potential sale was lost to another individual. I just think HE bears some of the responsibility, since HE read the thread wrong.

I may as well close this thread, rather than keep saying the same thing over and over and over and........
If I do hear from him and a refund is given, I'll open another thread, for anyone who may be interested.

Thank you ALL, for weighing in, it's Truly appreciated! Whether you agree with me, him, or neither of us, your time and opinions are appreciated.

Stay safe everyone, later, birdave.
 
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