Bear Grylls Grandfather Knife?

I just bought one. Should be here Thursday. [emoji122]

While it's obviously not a traditional folder, if it cuts stuff and opens beers I'll be happy with it!

After reading all the hate for this design I figured I should try it for myself.

I don't hate the way it looks either.
 
I just bought one. Should be here Thursday. [emoji122]

While it's obviously not a traditional folder, if it cuts stuff and opens beers I'll be happy with it!

After reading all the hate for this design I figured I should try it for myself.

I don't hate the way it looks either.

I suspect he is Bear Grylls' grandfather. ^^ :D (just teasing)

To me the knife looks very similar to their low cost foreign made multi-tools.... just repackaged and marketed with Bear Grylls' name.
 
I like the main blade's profile.That's about it. [tried to find something "nice" to say]
 
I just bought one. Should be here Thursday. [emoji122]

While it's obviously not a traditional folder, if it cuts stuff and opens beers I'll be happy with it!

After reading all the hate for this design I figured I should try it for myself.

I don't hate the way it looks either.

Cool :) I've bought things just because I thought they were odd looking and wanted a closer look. Please post some pictures and tell us what you think. Like it or not, it might be the first exposure to a "traditional" knife for some young folk out there.
 
That is a perfect example of why you shouldn't claim to like or dislike entire categories of knives.
 
Cool :) I've bought things just because I thought they were odd looking and wanted a closer look. Please post some pictures and tell us what you think. Like it or not, it might be the first exposure to a "traditional" knife for some young folk out there.

Ditto. Please post your review. We promise it will be politely received.
 
This thread is starting to remind me of . . .

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I don't think I have words for this. Although I do notice that it's now marked down twice on KnifeCenter.

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I wonder how this would be recieved if the scales were, say, ebony and if Grylls' name wasn't associated with it?

I've got an unresolved love/frustration relationship with the camper/utility pattern. My first knife and first stitches involved an Ulster BSA knife and when I think of the pattern, that's how it should look.

Not trying to open old wounds here but I personally find Victorinox SAKs to be utterly soulless. Sort of like the generic Ford Taurus, Budweiser design goal of intentional non-offensiveness and ending up as just blank blah.

On the other hand, there are versions of the camper that are anything but blah but that still horrify me. The German style campers like the Bokers look, well, foreign to my American eyes and the Case BSA knives look just ridiculous.

So if I imagine this Gerber with plain scales and no Grylls marketing, I see just another platypus camper pattern. Calling it out as ugly seems harsh since many campers are ugly to begin with. I'm biased, obviously, but the only campers that appeal to me aesthetically are the cigar/cattle knife framed ones.

Perhaps the real offense here is the slamming together of the Grylls orange and black modern survival aesthetic which is all sharp corners and blocky letters and the traditional aesthetic. Replace the scales and all have is another camper, no?
 
No offense intended to anyone:

If Bear is aware of this thread, he's probably smiling quietly to himself about the post count.

My only direct mockery has been of the "like a perfectly balanced skipping stone", which is a little harsh considering the difficulty of finding a new way to gush about another knife.

As for the show, the only reason I don't watch it is the over-abundance of commercials.
We're in Scotland, the land of thistles.[commercial break] There's a thistle now! [commercial break] (I was watching it last night.)

As for Gerber, I hear they're terrible now, but I've heard no details. My Big Rock Camp knife isn't very old, by my standards, and there's nothing wrong with it that I can see, except the compact handle slabs were uncomfortable and so was the sharp thumb hump. (So I guess you could say it looked better to me than it worked for me.)

The nub of my gist is that I also look forward to Limu's review.
 
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The main blade profile was so familiar to me, but I couldn't quite put my finger on where I had seen it before. Then it dawned on me that it wasn't a particular knife I had seen it on, but many, many knives. Haven't we all seen this in one form or another?:

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The 'Grandfather' is the first new knife I know of to offer a pre-worn blade. Looks like it would be a heck of a splinter picker though.
 
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The 'Grandfather' is the first new knife I know of to offer a pre-worn blade. Looks like it would be a heck of a splinter picker though.

Here's one from Buck



:D You could do surgery with it if you had to.
 
I just bought one. Should be here Thursday. [emoji122]
While it's obviously not a traditional folder, if it cuts stuff and opens beers I'll be happy with it!
After reading all the hate for this design I figured I should try it for myself.
I don't hate the way it looks either.

Well, I'm not going to buy one because I don't need a knife with the functions that it has. (Have lots of those already.) But assuming it's manufactured adequately, it's not all that bad. Has a blade, fingernail file, regular and PH screwdrivers, corkscrew. Those are useful tools.

What I can't figure out is who the intended user is. This knife is neither fish nor fowl. All of us could use what it has, but then we'd want a couple more tools added to it. Or make the frame made smaller so it's less of a lump in the pocket. And what's with the pointed keychain thingy stuck on the end?

Someone earlier called it a "marketing department knife" (or similar). That got it right, I think. It's just a poorly thought-out collection of normal tools bundled up into a knife and then smeared with glitz.
 
Not trying to open old wounds here but I personally find Victorinox SAKs to be utterly soulless. Sort of like the generic Ford Taurus, Budweiser design goal of intentional non-offensiveness and ending up as just blank blah.

I find the pure utilitarian design, consistently good build quality, and affordable price shows the effort put into those knives.... kinda where it's soul comes from. Add a little color and I'm way happy.
 
I meant to add to my last post that the "passed down through the ages" has some credibility when you look at that blade.
I can just see Bear giving the folks at Gerber his Grandpappy's knife to measure and whatnot so it could be reproduced, and with Gerber these days being a knife company on par with Domino's being a pizza company, they didn't say to Bear "Bear, we will of course put a full profile clip blade like this knife had when it was new". Nope, just measured it and plugged the coordinates into the machine that made the dye that punched the blades out of the 'steel' they got from recycling Matchbox cars and old headlight bezels.

And rubber scales? Good for grip in the hand, which is not good in your pocket so a sheath would be a must.

All kidding aside I would probably be glad to have it in a pinch, or as a backup tool or tackle box knife, but for the money nice used Victorinox abound.
 
Someone earlier called it a "marketing department knife" (or similar). That got it right, I think. It's just a poorly thought-out collection of normal tools bundled up into a knife and then smeared with glitz.

Are we talking about the Gerber, or the Victorinox SwissChamp? :D

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And to be fair, I think all successful knives are marketing department knives, but then, I worked in marketing for a bit (and trust me, it only hurts for a second when they rip out your soul).

I find the pure utilitarian design, consistently good build quality, and affordable price shows the effort put into those knives.... kinda where it's soul comes from. Add a little color and I'm way happy.

Plenty of Victorinox knives that are very far from utilitarian. And if utility is the measure, then this Gerber could be judged on the merits of its tool selection, which doesn't differ much. It has scissors and that's more useful than a lot of SAKs that lack that tool.

Note, I think the Gerber is ugly as a toad but as I said in my first post in this thread, there are precious few camper/utility knives that I think are handsome. I think the early US style cigar framed knives are nice, especially with jigged bone scales. I also think the WWII US "demo knife" is quite handsome too, as is the much later Victorinox Alox "homage" line.
 
Are we talking about the Gerber, or the Victorinox SwissChamp? :D

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Well, not to dump on Vic — I have a number of them, and Wengers, too — but like the Gerber Grandpa, the Swiss Champ is also a "poorly thought-out collection of normal tools" — in this case, far far too many in a single frame. I'd say the (standard) Tinker/Soldier/Pioneer/Farmer is about the upper limit for general usefulness.

And to be fair, I think all successful knives are marketing department knives, but then, I worked in marketing for a bit (and trust me, it only hurts for a second when they rip out your soul).... Note, I think the Gerber is ugly as a toad but as I said in my first post in this thread, there are precious few camper/utility knives that I think are handsome. I think the early US style cigar framed knives are nice, especially with jigged bone scales. I also think the WWII US "demo knife" is quite handsome too, as is the much later Victorinox Alox "homage" line.

Disagree about "successful knives" being "marketing dept. knives" — successful is as successful does, and that means utility to more buyers. Marketing can get something started, but for it to take off as a success, the object has to meet a lot of needs.

As for the "demo" knife, I once would have agreed with you. But having carried one daily for a while and having discovered the hard way that their backsprings are fragile, I have gone back to the traditional bone/delrin-scaled camper/utility/scout versions. (Currently a Camillus WW2 Army Engineer's knife.)

I get the utility of the demo knife, but snappy backsprings are a real problem when you can't just walk over to the supply guy and get a replacement for the asking. (As for the toolset the camper pattern carries, I'm totally OK with it, despite the out of date awl and can opener (in my case the pre-1944 "forked" kind). I use both those tools for other purposes and they work very well. So none of the 4 blades are goldbricking it on me.

Back to the Gerber thing. It just needs a bit more thought put into the selection and especially placement and size of the tools and the feel of the scales in the hand. That thing looks like it would be awkward to grab or hold onto for any length of time — hard whittling, for example, or making a bunch of fuzz sticks. (And get rid of that damned keychain "ear" which will simply jab your hand sometime when you least want it to.)
 
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RBB,

I agree too about the usefulness of the 2 and 3 layer campers, as a rule and yes, the demo knife has a reputation for busting springs. I raised it as an example of a nice looking camper pattern though.

Here's the offensive Gerber knife. I to be clear, I think it's heinous looking. Seriously, the scales are just awful.
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And the shape is, as you note odd right? The placement of the tools? But yet, it reminds of something....
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I remember going to a trade show (I was in marketing) and heard a VP say about some muckity-muck, "That guy is a real [jerk]... Not that that distinguishes him in this industry in any way." The discussion of the ugliness of the incredibly ugly Gerber reminds me of that comment. Lots of ugly utility/camper knives.

This one doesn't look right to me either.
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Good (inbound or product) marketing is listening and observing customers and understanding what their needs are and what motivates them to buy. Interestingly, people generally don't buy out of practicality or real need and buy more for percieved need. Saying emotion is too harsh. But emotion is closer.

Here's an example. People buy their kids mountain bikes with knobbie tires because they think the knobby tires give more grip. But they don't (unless you are really riding off road, which kids generally don't do). Best thing you can do for people is to replace their knobbie tires with slicks, but you'll never sell enough bikes to stay in business. The customer is always right, even when they're wrong.

My nephew asked me for recommendations about fixed blade knives 2 years ago. Actually, he asked me what I thought about the Bear Grylls Ultimate Pro.
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I showed a bunch of different fixed blades that I thought were better in different ways but then told him it was his knife and he should get a knife he likes. He then sat up and said, "I really like Bear Grylls and think it looks cool." This past Columbus day weekend we are together hanging out at the family camp and he had that knife and was dutifully smashing it through firewood and reaming it through the pull through sharpener while I made shavings with my Mora Companion.

My bro-in-law used to sell cars (he never had a soul to begin with) and says, "There's a butt for every seat." Knives are strange. I think Gerber actually knows and listens to a certain set of customers, just like GEC does. Different customers, same market driven process.

It's a stinkin' ugly knife, just the same.
 
I actually have one of those BG fixed blades. I got it as part of a fundraiser auction. I looked at it when it arrived. It's not a horrible knife, I know it gets a bad rap from the F-B crowd. I would probably never use it, I have a bunch of great JK knives that take more abuse and perform better, but here again, it meets a need, has a "look" that sells, and does have some useful tools on it. I suppose it I was stranded somewhere and that's all I had, I would be darn glad that I had it.
 
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