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well, im going to get in on this. I dont think les stroud is a poser, hes not only a survivalist either. For anybody else whos watched his other show, Hes also living in the woods, allmost totally self sufficent. Now of course there is only so much a man can do with a wife and two kids with lives. He has soalr pannels set up for his power, and a wind tower. He also had a well dug, and uses a rain water collecter. And while filming his show he is totaly by him self. He doesn't plan the things out, he just does it. And its not only to be on T.V. for him, going back to nature is one of the mans passions, I think all he wanted to do was share that with every one else.
 
Shot you're welcome to have a laugh at my screen name. If I was thinking I just might have chosen a different name. My dogs are a big part of my life. Now don't think I'm letting you laugh at my dogs. Remember what Clint did when the bads guys laughed at him when his mule was standing there? :D
 
Yeah, his mule didnt find that funny at all, And to think all clint wanted was them to apologize.
 
What do you mean WWE and WWF are not real? What? What's going on???
 
Tony T.

What are you saying. next you're going to tell me Santa and the easter bunny are not real.

Alan

Well, the Easter Bunny WAS real, but Bear clubbed and ate him. As for Santa, its only a matter of time before they do a Man vs. Wild show at the North pole. I fear Santa may share the same fate.
 
Take this nonsense to Whine & Cheese if you guys (you know who you are) just want to snipe at/flirt with each other.

Personally, I'm looking forward to more Bear and Les shows. And I'd love to hear if anyone has ID'ed other knives they've been using.

If I was a maker or manufacturer, I'd send them each a box of knives to choose from. I know the shows aren't about gear, but it couldn't hurt, they're seen by a lot of people.

Oh yeah, Tony Turner was right about those game-farm hunting shows. That turns my stomach... may as well go to the grocery store, pick out a trout from a tank, and call it "fishing".
 
Does anyone know when the new season of Survivorman is going to air? Also, does any one know where I can buy Les Stroud's "Off the Grid" film? I hear it airs in Canada from time to time but I have not seen it on any US stations.

For my money, Les Stroud is much more entertaining for some reason. I don't if it is because he is kind of a dork and I can identify with him more than the super stud Bear but I like him. I feel like I could learn enough to be able to do what Les does but I am just not in good enough shape to do what Bear does.
 
OK, new direction for this thread:

What knife do you want to see Bear or Les use? and Why.

Name 1. the person, 2. the knife , 3. the activity, and 4. why.

I'll start,

I want to see Bear use a Busse Battle Mistress to chop down a tree, build a shelter, and dig a hole, because if anyone could wreck a blade, it will be Bear, he is not "easy" on his knives.
(In the jungle show he Pummelled the snake-poo out of that poor little knife with a big old rock. :eek: )
 
Les strikes me as a ham from a different smoke house. I like his show too, but he gives Christ a run for his money on the portrayal of suffering.

If Bear is enjoying himself too much, Les strikes me as overly miserable. Maybe it's because he has to continually set up cameras.

From the knife handling I have seen out of both of them, they should consider carrying game shears.:D

I'd like to see either of them tackle Oregon's or Washington's western coast or the Cascade range foothill country during monsoon season. As everyone knows, our winters can be murderous in a rather deceptive way. Being cold sucks. Being wet sucks. Being cold and wet and needing a fire in a driving rainstorm coupled with 40-75 mph gusts of wind is downright life threatening in short order.
 
I watch both shows and have every episode recorded on DVR. Now with that said some of you people need to grow some thicker skin, I love my wife of the last 20 years very much but sometimes I criticize even her.

I like Les' show better than Bear's but he is full of crap too, do yall remember the Georgian Swamp episode, well that is where I am from and have hauled lots of fish, turtles, deer, hogs and small game out of those swamps. Les froze his ass off in that episode and talked about a heavy frost in the morning, he also talked about the danger of aligators and bugs, and trapped a turtle in a crappy little trap. I don't think so, if there is frost on the ground there aren't any bugs or gators or turtles, Les was stretching the truth just a bit.

All and all both shows are entertaining but I am a huge survivor fan also, I don't expect any of the three to teach me anything anymore than I expect to become a better fighter by watching UFC. Chris
 
I agree on the Western Washington weather. I'd like to see Les do the West slope of the Cascades in February.

I actually see a few things I can use in Les' stuff. My area (Eastern WA goes from Alpine meadows to sagebrush deserts, and I found Les' methods of making beding in the Canyonlands a good supplement to what I saw in Ron Hood's Woodmaster 2 video. I've also seen some good tinder bundles. I also appreciate that Les's show, whether scripted or not shows him screwing up occasionally on things that we all might make mistakes with if cold, tired and hungry. Especially cold.

From Bear, I learn things also. I just learn them in ways that are probably not what is intended. I had it reinforced that drinking untreated water out of a clear stream is not neccesarily safe. Seeing the way that he goes down mountains reminds me that my 40 something yr old semi sedentary body would probably fracture or sprain under such pressure. There are other things that teach what not to do. Sometimes, I almost wonder if the show isn't set up that way. :confused:

Clint Hollingworth
The Wandering Ones webcomic
http://www.wanderingones.com
 
Bear is entertaining and knows a lot of stuff, be he is always on the go. Hoping into a lava flow cave to get water or scaling cliffs... not what I would or could do.

True survivor skills are taking care of the basics and waiting. Someone should always have an idea where you are and where you are going.

That poor soul that recently died, in my opinion followed a Bear approach.

Focus on fire, shelter, water, signal fires and other signaling. You are hanging-on until rescued, not playing tarzan.

I did see when Bear went through desert training with the French Foreign Legion, he is impressive. His approach is like you're trying to escape from behind enemy lines.
 
I agree with Chris, I enjoy the shows. As much for the scenery and the situation they are in. I don't watch the Survivor show regularly, but the times I've tuned in, I kinda tune out the Game Show BS parts of it, and think about the island they are on, the natural materials available, etc, etc.

Bear is just in excellent shape. Add to his excellent physical conditioning a healthy dose of smarts, and then on top of that add the experiences he's had such as SAS, climbing, and what you get is a balls-to-the-wall adventure show.
I don't think Bear has a Slow Speed. He is either sleeping, or full tilt boogie.
Les, on the other hand, seems to follow the theory of slow steady progress and pace. Les isn't running around like a crazy man, but he is always making progress, proceeding to his next course of action.
They may have made a mistake having Les lug those cameras around, they could have simply sent a 2 man camera team with him, and told the audience they were held to a non-interferance role.

But with both Les and Bear, it's a matter of personal styles.

Bear, each show, repeatedly, will tell you, "it's much safer to go around, but I'm going to go this way!"
Well I'll tell ya what, in all of those cases, I'm probably going around.
It would take a very compelling reason for me to risk a broken femur or snapped neck taking the "questionable" route.

Finally, we all have to recognize that once it's filmed, the video editing takes place, and the final outcome of how the show is portrayed falls in the hands of the production crew.

And that is an excellent pick-up by RunningBoar, there wouldn't be any bugs if you awoke to a frost, swamp or otherwise.
What i was thinking during that episode, was, "wow, he must be there in January, because they probably get only a handful of frosts per year in that part of Georgia?" The bug part didn't even cross my mind.
Good Pick-up Chris!
 
Les is the thinking man's Bear it would seem.

One thing Les did was to make a "prison match" using a little tissue and lint from his sock. He lit it with the sparks from his lighter that had no fuel. I tried to do this at home under idea circumstances but I can't ever get it to light. What is up with that? I think Les may be the Devil.
 
I agree with Chris, I enjoy the shows. As much for the scenery and the situation they are in. I don't watch the Survivor show regularly, but the times I've tuned in, I kinda tune out the Game Show BS parts of it, and think about the island they are on, the natural materials available, etc, etc.

Bear is just in excellent shape. Add to his excellent physical conditioning a healthy dose of smarts, and then on top of that add the experiences he's had such as SAS, climbing, and what you get is a balls-to-the-wall adventure show.
I don't think Bear has a Slow Speed. He is either sleeping, or full tilt boogie.
Les, on the other hand, seems to follow the theory of slow steady progress and pace. Les isn't running around like a crazy man, but he is always making progress, proceeding to his next course of action.
They may have made a mistake having Les lug those cameras around, they could have simply sent a 2 man camera team with him, and told the audience they were held to a non-interferance role.

But with both Les and Bear, it's a matter of personal styles.

Bear, each show, repeatedly, will tell you, "it's much safer to go around, but I'm going to go this way!"
Well I'll tell ya what, in all of those cases, I'm probably going around.
It would take a very compelling reason for me to risk a broken femur or snapped neck taking the "questionable" route.

Finally, we all have to recognize that once it's filmed, the video editing takes place, and the final outcome of how the show is portrayed falls in the hands of the production crew.

And that is an excellent pick-up by RunningBoar, there wouldn't be any bugs if you awoke to a frost, swamp or otherwise.
What i was thinking during that episode, was, "wow, he must be there in January, because they probably get only a handful of frosts per year in that part of Georgia?" The bug part didn't even cross my mind.
Good Pick-up Chris!

Stroud’s antics are so obviously amateur, full of incredible, foolish, dangerous misinformation I can hardly understand how any serious student of survival techniques can possibly take him seriously. His misadventures have taught inexperienced people to do the wrong thing about half of the time. Some of his stuff is just plain stupid – like smearing grease under his eyes to ward off the glair, jumping from a cliff into a stream, or jumping into a frigid stream with all of his gear in order to float “12 miles” down stream. He’s teaching disastrous mistakes to the uninitiated.

On the other hand, Les Grylls is the real thing, even though he has to play some things up for the camera (like climbing the waterfall). He has done a few curiously wrong things, however, like rubbing himself down with snow to dry off after emersion into freezing polar water. But, he knows what he’s about, warns against some things, and does a good job of explaining equipment, etc. His life experience in survival situations leaves Stroud in the dust. Stroud is just pathetic.
 
back to that SAK he had on the one episode. it was a rather large black handled Wenger. Does anyone know the exact model?
 
Stroud’s antics are so obviously amateur, full of incredible, foolish, dangerous misinformation I can hardly understand how any serious student of survival techniques can possibly take him seriously. His misadventures have taught inexperienced people to do the wrong thing about half of the time. Some of his stuff is just plain stupid – like smearing grease under his eyes to ward off the glair, jumping from a cliff into a stream, or jumping into a frigid stream with all of his gear in order to float “12 miles” down stream. He’s teaching disastrous mistakes to the uninitiated.

On the other hand, Bear is the real thing, even though he has to play some things up for the camera (like climbing the waterfall). He has done a few curiously wrong things, however, like rubbing himself down with snow to dry off after emersion into freezing polar water. But, he knows what he’s about, warns against some things, and does a good job of explaining equipment, etc. His life experience in survival situations leaves Stroud in the dust. Stroud is just pathetic.

Um, dude, there have been episodes where bear has jumped off cliffs into a stream and jumped into frigid rivers to float 12 miles. They both do some questionable things, but from what i've seen they don't pose it as "here's what to do". It's a little showboating for the camera. Anyone with half a brain knows it's best to walk around.
 
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