bear grylls stuff fad or functional?

Some of us are old enough to remember: beer can craze; pet rocks; Beanie Babies. Price has to do with what's in people's heads, not some notional intrinsic value. Scagels have gone down 50% over the last few years. Never thought I'd see that, but there it is.

Precisely. So there should be no shock over a two grand Bayley. (If the seller can get it, and if he cant, he will ask for less.) Those things and he were red hot for a while.

Its not just about how big a knife is or how much etching is on it. Common sense.

Accepting whether or not one is willing to pay the price is accepting a different point of view.

Accepting that asking prices are not just a matter of size or intricacy is just reality...not an opinion that one can accept or reject.
 
Its not just about how big a knife is or how much etching is on it. Common sense.

Yup. If that were the case the gigantic Pakistani 10" blade Bowie with knuckle guard I bought as a teen 20 years ago would be priceless (it likely is, just not in the traditional sense). All in all, not a bad knife. Just utterly useless and made of crap materials. But it looks cool and unlike some wall hangers it actually says where it was made on the blade.:D

Accepting that asking prices are not just a matter of size or intricacy is just reality...not an opinion that one can accept or reject.

Oh some can and do. Even flip flopping within the same post. So it can be done. Doesn't make it accurate. :thumbup:

So who is this bear guy again?
 
Hi Everyone,
To go to the original question, I have a BG Survival, one of the original ones. Cost me $50.00. I have used it and flogged it. Still in great working order. We are away camping and I have recently used it to bang in tent pegs, up to 18 inches, during a storm. No probs. Keeps a great edge, using the inbuilt sharpener. Sure I also have my Falkniven A1 with me, but it has no hammer- so I used BG again. I constantly use the fire starter on BBQ's. I have processed kindling with it and it is one of my general yard knives. Maybe I just got a good one.
 
I started a threat about a year ago about an ultimate pro survival knife on sale at my loxal hardware. Its still there and i never bought it. The reason simply the ugly BG all over the knife. If it had a simple BG or Bear Grylls engraved somewhere i would have bought it. The opinions at the time were split between buy it if its a good price or dont buy BG stuff.
The youtube knife guys give the pro version mostly positive reviews.
Same thing goes with livestrong oakleys or bicyle helmets. They are excellent quality and were marked down heavily after the Lance Armstrong issue. But alot of people just avoid the product due to the name associated with it
 
I had a BG compact parang I used for about 2 years here in hawaii. I wrapped the handle in 550 cord to cover the BG logo and beat the snot out of it hacking through vines, bamboo, and I even left my hatchet behind and used it for chopping/splitting. I had to sharpen it after every camping trip but it held a decent edge and didn't break. And it was also my shovel... perhaps one reason I had to sharpen it every time. I replaced it with the benchmade jungle knife about 6 months ago but it was still going strong.
 
Seems alot of people like the tools but hate the BG. I see alot of discussion around covering up or removing or rehandling the BG stuff
 
I got a gift card to Academy Sports for Christmas and decided to blow it on a knife since I wouldn't be out much. I've heard too many mixed reviews on the Bear, plus I find them gaudy and don't really enjoy Bear's presentation style.

That said, Gerber still makes a serviceable blade if you dig around past their bottom of the barrel junkers. While not as top tier as they were almost a generation ago, they do put out a good knife.

Sitting next to the Bear was the newer offering called the Strongarm for maybe $20 more. The Strongarm offers a nice tough knife of sturdy stock, stainless steel blade, full length tang, and a sheath system that can attach just about any way possible. From what I've read, it's been considered a good quality blade. It can be had in a straight edge or combo with a couple inches serrated.

This is not a knife I plan on putting through the wringer. I have better knives that I already trust that range the full gamut of price from sub $30 to over $400+.

However, it will be handy lashed to my Maglite holster for dusky walks or strapped to the small of my back on canoe trips. The robust construction, stainless blade, and relatively low price make it a capable piece that I wouldn't cry about should it be lost to the murky depths.

My point being is that you can get a pretty capable outdoors knife for about $50 that would serve you better than an over-marketed clunker.

Actually, a $15 stainless Mora is probably even more capable once you learn the nuances of the design and construction. Pair it with a good multitool, and you're really set.

The Bear stuff, to me, seem like all fluff and flash with little real substance.
 
For the same price, I can buy a Becker BK2 and have a proven knife that would chop that Gerber in half.

1095 is not always the best choice. If you are gonna be in wet nasty cold weather or in the water, you want something stainless. The Ultimate Pro is a solid stainless knife. With that said I have a BK 2 and yes it is a solid knife.
 
Like alot of the guys on here have said, you gotta be weary of the Bear Grylls stuff. Most of it is overpriced and not the greatest but a few pieces of it are good. The BG Firesteel is good, the Ultimate PRO ( the second knife) is solid and dosen't deserve the hate it gets. The micro torch is ok, as is his pants from craghoppers. The first knife was hit or miss, but I've heard that the steel was to soft but I guess it would be an "ok" knife for a kid, but TBH the first blade I ever got my kid was a Mora Companion, then he obtained a Gerber Prodigy then finally a BK-2.
 
Like alot of the guys on here have said, you gotta be weary of the Bear Grylls stuff. Most of it is overpriced and not the greatest but a few pieces of it are good. The BG Firesteel is good, the Ultimate PRO ( the second knife) is solid and dosen't deserve the hate it gets. The micro torch is ok, as is his pants from craghoppers. The first knife was hit or miss, but I've heard that the steel was to soft but I guess it would be an "ok" knife for a kid, but TBH the first blade I ever got my kid was a Mora Companion, then he obtained a Gerber Prodigy then finally a BK-2.

I have the BG firesteel and I second that, it is quite good.
 
The heat treat on this line of knives is hit and miss. Some knives have proved okay, but I have seen a few that haven't held up. Personally, I would spend the same money on a non celebrity endorsed knife.
 
Gerber isn't what it used to be. Ever since Fiskars bought out Gerber the knives have dropped to the same quality as their cheap scissors.
 
If a friend or relative were to come up to me and say "I'm thinking of buying a knife, what do you think about the Bear Grylls stuff?" I'd advise them not to buy it. But probably not for the reasons you'd assume.

That opinion isn't informed by personal experience—I've never owned one—or even by other people's reviews. In fact, I've never actually seen someone say "I took it out camping, and on the first weekend it snapped right in half!"; on the contrary, the few reviewers I've seen give them a chance have admitted that they're perfectly serviceable, and I have no reason to think otherwise. (They do have warranties, after all.) Honestly, I think that anyone who says things like "Gerber took a crap and the result was the Bear Grylls line" is almost certainly buying into the negative hype rather than speaking from experience.

Instead, I look at the materials used, factor in the cost of branding, and conclude that they're certainly overpriced. Then I look at all of the other options with much better value for money (Mora, Opinel, Victorinox, the Ontario RAT 1 and 2, etc.) and am convinced that one's money is better spent elsewhere.

And yes, I personally don't care for the branding, but that's a matter of personal opinion.
 
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