Becker appearance on The Walking Dead

I just wonder how close they will stay to the books. I can see some story lines developing that are coming pretty close, but there are some things that are no where near the story.
I'd love to get into details, but dont want to give up possible spoilers!
 
I agree, shane does have a great survival mindset. But survival within a group requires compromise and communication which I think he lacks completely. Sure, he'd be a great standalone rambo type of guy. But the show and senario presented is that of group survival. I want to know that I can trust the guy standing next to me to watch my back and visa versa. The fact that shane took a relatively neutral situation and turned it into chaos shattered any trust they had with those who took them in. As far as I'm concerned they have nothing but time on their hands. Why make things harder than they have to be? Why put yourself in situations you can avoid? Make smart decisions for the group that you CHOSE to be a part of. Yes, I want to survive, but I want to do it smarter.

...on a side note. It's funny that shane decided to kill every zombie in the barn along with the other survivors but when Sofia walked out no one, including shane, could kill her. It took the real survivor, Rick, to do what no one else could. Shane is reckless and only realizes it when he's seen the damage his decisions have made.
 
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TimmyB said:
I agree, shane does have a great survival mindset. But survival within a group requires compromise and communication which I think he lacks completely. Sure, he'd be a great standalone rambo type of guy. But the show and senario presented is that of group survival. I want to know that I can trust the guy standing next to me to watch my back and visa versa. The fact that shane took a relatively neutral situation and turned it into chaos shattered any trust they had with those who took them in. As far as I'm concerned they have nothing but time on their hands. Why make things harder than they have to be? Why put yourself in situations you can avoid? Make smart decisions for the group that you CHOSE to be a part of. Yes, I want to survive, but I want to do it smarter.

...on a side note. It's funny that shane decided to kill every zombie in the barn along with the other survivors but when Sofia walked out no one, including shane, could kill her. It took the real survivor, Rick, to do what no one else could. Shane is reckless and only realizes it when he's seen the damage his decisions have made.
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Agreed but in that situation the threat was unnecessary. Ie the walkers in the barn and the old mans rule of no guns. The only compromise that I would accept in that situation is unconditional quarter and that means guns and a guard should the locks fail. It went from a sniper being able to see a walker from 500 yards to over a dozen within 50 and no one armed
 
TimmyB said:
I agree, shane does have a great survival mindset. But survival within a group requires compromise and communication which I think he lacks completely. Sure, he'd be a great standalone rambo type of guy. But the show and senario presented is that of group survival. I want to know that I can trust the guy standing next to me to watch my back and visa versa. The fact that shane took a relatively neutral situation and turned it into chaos shattered any trust they had with those who took them in. As far as I'm concerned they have nothing but time on their hands. Why make things harder than they have to be? Why put yourself in situations you can avoid? Make smart decisions for the group that you CHOSE to be a part of. Yes, I want to survive, but I want to do it smarter.
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Group survival, you're only as strong as your weakest link. They were all weak links and getting softer. Pickin' daisies when we thought it was safe, but now we know it ain't. Yeah, a lttle tempering process there me thinks.

The real meaning of the whole thing, is you can't make the weak stronger, by making the strong weaker. Thats what was happening. It true in life as much as on that show.

Simple math, don't kill the living unless you have to, and if its dangerous, kill it. Folks in bad situations have few real choices, and in a scenario like that, you gotta be ready to fight for your next breath and fight harder than the dangers you face.

They were all thinking that that farm was safe, let their guard down, gave up their guns, and started kickin back and playin patty cake. Shane fixed all of that in a few seconds, and might have gave them that edge they will need to win the next fight. Because no one is coming to help, and there are more Walkers out there than livers.

Like I said, I can relate to that charcter more than any of the others. So far in my eyes, he's done nothing wrong.

Besides, he was supposed to be dead already.

Moose
 
moosez45 said:
According to the quiz, I relate more to Andrea, but I don't think so.
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But both she and you have a crush on Shane. :p

What Shane did to Otis was a total jerk move, but if the choice is dead Otis/dead Shane/dead Carl or just dead Otis, well that's a tough one and after shooting Otis and driving all the gear back to the farm so Carl could be saved, a lot of thought would be needed to make the right choice.
 
thombrogan said:
But both she and you have a crush on Shane. :p
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Well, he is pretty buff. And he does have that #22 necklace.

Yeah, I got a crush on him. So what? I think you're just jealous I don't have a crush on you.

:tongue:

:D

Moose
 
Lol thats funny ( crush on shane think )

but I gotta agree

I think shane did the right and very reasonable(in my mine) thing by shooting otis, and saving himself (and carl in the long run)
 
moosez45 said:
Well, he is pretty buff. And he does have that #22 necklace.

Yeah, I got a crush on him. So what? I think you're just jealous I don't have a crush on you.

:tongue:

:D

Moose
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I thought as much...

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moosez45 said:
Group survival, you're only as strong as your weakest link....(stuff)....The real meaning of the whole thing, is you can't make the weak stronger, by making the strong weaker. Thats what was happening. It true in life as much as on that show....(stuff)....
Moose
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I'll have to disagree with you there, sir. A weaker individual (if risks are taken smartly for the right reasons) can make the group stronger. Making stupid decisions is never good, but I think back to a scene from an old Kurt Russell movie 'Soldier'. In short, Kurt is a badd ass, and a little kid is frozen in fear of a snake. Kurt throws the kid a boot to kill the snake. By watching and (at one point) catching and tossing the snake away, alive. Kurt teaches the kid to overcome his fear. He could have killed it in an instant by looking at it and lighting it on fire with that hero-90s-laser-vision-thing, but nothing would have been gained... later in the movie, the kid kills a similar snake that was crawling into his parent's bed.

So, you have a group situation. Prove you make smart decisions, and help the team, and you win. Be a Rambo badd ass and you live... For a while... Until you need someone to get your back and they hesitate for a split second.
 
So, he put the kid through a tough situation, to make him stronger.

Thats one of my favorite movies by the way. His experiences with killing, gave him the advantage in the fight.

Moose
 
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