Benchmade Adamas realization

marcus52AR said:
Git ur tough as nails Adamas here! Just watch your hands if you're cutting plastic straps off a pallet, the lock might fail.

A lot of comments are scoffing and dismissing the issue because "who batons with a knife?". But the op said with proper use and common cutting scenario the lock failed.
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Batoning is not a common cutting scenerio, especially when we're discussing folders. :rolleyes:
 
The lock on my new model Adamas engages fully.
It does not close with pressure applied to the spine.

The newer model does have less stiff springs than the old ones did...it makes thumb flicking easier, so I blame the legions of knife fidget folks for that development. ;)

Don't know about batonning with it since I have had no call to do that with this knife.
But it does not fail in normal use, or when I tried forcing it closed with spine pressure.

Then again, most of my luck in life revolves around knives, so your results may vary. :D
 
It's disappointing to hear that people are having issues with their Adamas. I have carried Benchmade knives for decades without a single failure but I don't own an Adamas and probably never will (not appealing to me).

Regarding BM lock and spring failure complaints in general- I guess I've just been lucky. Or perhaps the BF echo-chamber pays more attention to the handful of complaints than the thousands of quietly satisfied users. This is a common problem with niche hobbies (see Pipe smokers forums, or Gun forums for many examples).
 
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Spillproof said:
It's disappointing to hear that people are having issues with their Adamas. I have carried Benchmade knives for decades without a single failure but I don't own an Adamas and probably never will.

Regarding BM lock and spring failure complaints in general- I guess I've just been lucky. Or perhaps the BF echo-chamber pays more attention to the handful of complaints than the thousands of quietly satisfied users. This is a common problem with niche hobbies (see Pipe smokers forums, or Gun forums for many examples).

Still the OP has a legit beef with the Adamas and that just blows. I hope they step it up.
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Well, this is kind of the issue. Echo chamber is right. We have one member here who posted up how he's had a recurring issue with a specific knife across a couple of examples, and several people come in like "Those are TRASH, glad IIIIII never bought one! I'll never buy a BM again!" as though this one user's personal experience is somehow an objective statement of what people can expect when they buy an Adamas. Odd that people will hear about this one guy's issue, or see a few Youtube videos about issues, yet when they read about the experiences of those of us who have had zero issues, no one seems to care about that or see it as relevant. Odd, no? My personal opinion is that most people who are trashing the Adamas were never going to buy one in the first place, so it's really a moot point. And I should clarify, it doesn't concern me whether folks think one way or the other about a specific knife made by a knife manufacturer. People can talk themselves into, or out of, just about anything.
 
DrHarmony said:
I think some people feelings got hurt being told their tank is more of a cooked noodle.
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Actually, the only thing that gives me a headache is when people use poor logic to make decisions, rather like you're doing right now. Nice attempted dismissal, however.
 
Quiet said:
Actually, the only thing that gives me a headache is when people use poor logic to make decisions, rather like you're doing right now. Nice attempted dismissal, however.
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This makes no sense. My poor logic comes from video. Same guys beat the crap out of a Freek and it held good even being batoned through a cooking pan.
Just tap an Adamas on the log and it loses security is a fail regardless of how hurt your feelings are. You focus on what someone should be doing with their knife but you are missing the point that a hard use knife should be able to do more than urban string cutting and shaving arm hair.
Adamas has been proven to be unreliable, freek has been proven reliable. Nothing to do with Benchmade as a company.
 
DrHarmony said:
This makes no sense. My poor logic comes from video. Same guys beat the crap out of a Freek and it held good even being batoned through a cooking pan.
Just tap an Adamas on the log and it loses security is a fail regardless of how hurt your feelings are. You focus on what someone should be doing with their knife but you are missing the point that a hard use knife should be able to do more than urban string cutting and shaving arm hair.
Adamas has been proven to be unreliable, freek has been proven reliable. Nothing to do with Benchmade as a company.
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A video? Oh snap, that's great. Couple of questions, you know, continuing with this whole logic theme.

1. Do you have a video that shows every Adamas being tested? I don't have time to watch thousands of knives being tested at the moment, but I'd be sure to watch in chunks. :D
2. Do you even have a video showing a significant sample size of Adamas knives being tested?
3. Can you link me to a significant number of videos showing Adamas knives being tested to failure? And I don't mean "several", I mean, let's say, 50. Benchmade has almost certainly sold tens of thousands of Adama knives, so let's see some specifics, even a tiny percentage will do.
4. Can you give me an example of Benchmade saying "These knives are made to be batoned with"? P.S. No, not the video wherein a BM employee WAS batoning (which it succeeded at, incidentally), I mean, a specific statement from them?

So, your statement that Adamas has "proven to be unreliable" is objectively false. Sorry, heh, just kidding, I'm not sorry.

Also, since I know you can't produce those things, all I'm seeing is some weak bandwagoning, because a few videos* say something you agree with, and you don't seem to enjoy pushback from folks who have experienced zero issues.

Lastly, you keep mentioning my feelings, because you don't have a logical comeback for the points I'm making. It's rather amateur hourish if I'm being honest. Embarrassing.

* I don't know if you know this, but a lot of these videos have content that's super hyped in order to generate views, which generates revenue for these YouBoob clowns.
 
DrHarmony said:
I think some people feelings got hurt being told their tank is more of a cooked noodle.
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Are we talking about knives or....?

From this thread, it seems benchmade quality might not be what it used to be. I wouldn't dismiss the entire brand or model line from one person's experience.

Just keep in mind, all these vigorous responses are from people that are not benchmaders! Myself, I haven't bought a new benchmade since the price hikes a few years back! I posted in the benchmade section about a pocket clip and got 0 responses!
Thread 'Your favorite Bugout clips' https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/your-favorite-bugout-clips.1878160/
Benchmade hates me! Yet, I'm not going to say "benchmade community sux" from this one thing.
 
Quiet said:
I think what would really cook some folks' noodle is if I went out this weekend, got some heavy plastic zipties, and took a video cutting them with one of my Adamas' and when no lock failure occured, being like "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?". 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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So if you hit the spine of your mini Adamas against a wood table it'll hold strong? It doesn't have to be flailing the knife against the table just a good firm whack. Because mine fails where every single of my other knives including shitty $30 Gerbers hold up. And to be clear I like my mini Adamas, but it really shouldn't be labeled as a "hard use" knife when a good accidental hit on the spine might have it close on your hand.
 
kafolarbear said:
So if you hit the spine of your mini Adamas against a wood table it'll hold strong? It doesn't have to be flailing the knife against the table just a good firm whack. Because mine fails where every single of my other knives including shitty $30 Gerbers hold up. And to be clear I like my mini Adamas, but it really shouldn't be labeled as a "hard use" knife when a good accidental hit on the spine might have it close on your hand.
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so you got a cooked noodle too......
 
kafolarbear said:
So if you hit the spine of your mini Adamas against a wood table it'll hold strong? It doesn't have to be flailing the knife against the table just a good firm whack. Because mine fails where every single of my other knives including shitty $30 Gerbers hold up. And to be clear I like my mini Adamas, but it really shouldn't be labeled as a "hard use" knife when a good accidental hit on the spine might have it close on your hand.
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I have tested them before when this came up last time. Trust me, this isn't the first time this conversation has been had. Every so often, new people see those few Youtube videos, and come in demanding to know what's going on. 🤷

Also, people keep using this term "hard use". Remember, "hard use" is still referring to using a knife to do what a knife is supposed to do, namely cut things. "Hard use" doesn't mean, use as a pry bar, hammer, or any other non-knife use. That is generally considered abuse. It's why manufacturers tend not to warranty knives damaged from abuse. Then dudes come in here posting about how they got turned away by the manufacturer, only to come to find out, they were doing something dumb like trying to use a folding knife to pry apart two boards that were nailed together.

Everyone wants an invincible knife, problem is, everyone also wants that knife to be a folder. Just odd, really.
 
Quiet said:
A video? Oh snap, that's great. Couple of questions, you know, continuing with this whole logic theme.

1. Do you have a video that shows every Adamas being tested? I don't have time to watch thousands of knives being tested at the moment, but I'd be sure to watch in chunks. :D
2. Do you even have a video showing a significant sample size of Adamas knives being tested?
3. Can you link me to a significant number of videos showing Adamas knives being tested to failure? And I don't mean "several", I mean, let's say, 50. Benchmade has almost certainly sold tens of thousands of Adama knives, so let's see some specifics, even a tiny percentage will do.
4. Can you give me an example of Benchmade saying "These knives are made to be batoned with"? P.S. No, not the video wherein a BM employee WAS batoning (which it succeeded at, incidentally), I mean, a specific statement from them?

So, your statement that Adamas has "proven to be unreliable" is objectively false. Sorry, heh, just kidding, I'm not sorry.

Also, since I know you can't produce those things, all I'm seeing is some weak bandwagoning, because a few videos* say something you agree with, and you don't seem to enjoy pushback from folks who have experienced zero issues.

Lastly, you keep mentioning my feelings, because you don't have a logical comeback for the points I'm making. It's rather amateur hourish if I'm being honest. Embarrassing.

* I don't know if you know this, but a lot of these videos have content that's super hyped in order to generate views, which generates revenue for these YouBoob clowns
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If you are satisfied that your tanks (3 of them apparently) are reliable after seeing from numerous videos, the minimal abuse that knife should take, have at er
Benchmade should and probably will, fix this. It may only be a minor thing, but it needs or needed to be fixed. (maybe it was already fixed)
 
DrHarmony said:
If you are satisfied that your tanks (3 of them apparently) are reliable after seeing from numerous videos, the minimal abuse that knife should take, have at er
Benchmade should and probably will, fix this. It may only be a minor thing, but it needs or needed to be fixed. (maybe it was already fixed)
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Numerous? How numerous? I notice that you coulddid not provide what I asked for.

I hope by now you're seeing my point. If a few, or even several Adamas knives have left the factory with issues, but the majority of users do not experience the issues being discussed, that becomes a QC problem, and only folks who've left their critical thinking skills at home tend to think "ALL knives of this model are trash!". It's pretty simple.

And to ask the question to get my point across more clearly: how many BF members need to post up stating having zero issues with their knives before the realization hits that these aren't bad knives, or knives plagued with issues?
 
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