Benchmade Adamas realization

I will admit that I would not take any axis lock knife into a KNOWN survival situation. I don't like how the spring is open to the elements, and I don't care for the relative weakness of the omega springs compared to other locks. Truth be told, if I wasn't going to carry a fixed blade, I would probably just opt for some Cold Steel sporting a Triad. It's pretty ridiculous what one of those can take. That said, I wouldn't feel under-knifed with an of the Adamas knives. I could cut what i needed to cut, and if I was super paranoid about it or broke the springs, i could just jam a stick in there. Hell, the Auto can be locked open the same way. Batonning is a moot point for lock strength. You always keep the lock disengaged when you baton with a folder. It's foolish not to.

However, that's not what I said nor what the OP was getting at. Has either of my Adamas knives failed after a year of carrying them more often than not on the job? No. Not once. I haven't used them HARD, but they have cut open boxes, cut through plastic drain tile, scored things, trimmed duct tape, etc. Not once did the knife fold on me. However, not once did I baton with either of them. My mini gets carried more than my Auto simply because I don't need the auto function on the job, and I like an OTF when I'm at the office.

I have never felt the need to do a spine whack test. i have only done those on knives that promised that was something they could handle and wondered why they failed, like multiple of my ZTs. However, I am willing to try it over the weekend when I have some time to see if I can make either or both of them fail. I'm curious.

I think it's important to remember that those of us who are simply stating that WE have never had an issue with our knives and mentioning that WE don't use them in a particular way does not make us people with hurt fee-wees because some one else used a particular model a particular way and caused it to fail. I'm just stating personal facts: I've been carrying a knife for over 30 years. I have been on jobsites that usually require something to be cut every day for 20+ years. I have never had a BM (or any knife) fail on me under normal use or conditions where I wasn't either trying to get it to fail or using it beyond its designed function (ie prying with the tip of a Buck 110).

What I take issue with is a thread where any OP starts out with a legitimate gripe, rolls into a misuse, and ends with a hyperbolic statement. I doesn't matter the brand. It just rubs me the wrong way, so if I have my own anecdotal 2 cents to throw in, I toss them.
 
To be fair to OP, their first Adamas lock failure occurred while cutting a plastic band, not batonning. Had they left it at that, the discussion could be about QC vs design. Of course some will say knives don’t need locks at all.
 
To be fair to OP, their first Adamas lock failure occurred while cutting a plastic band, not batonning. Had they left it at that, the discussion could be about QC vs design. Of course some will say knives don’t need locks at all.
But what else did OP do that he considered completely normal use?
I batoned with this thread and it broke. Most useless thread ever!

Did I miss the email that March is "Baton your Knives Month"?

I might have to go to tech support and ask for a new Batoning substack so this can all go in one spot.
Batoning with folders makes the hottest fires.
Actually, wait, that's not right; talking about batoning with folders makes the hottest fires.
 
The three failure videos I just watched (please God, let me rewind time to get those moments of life back) all involved batonning.
The third video had all the coating from the back of the blade worn off from so much batonning!

I am prepared to believe that the current iteration of the Adamas is not the choice of folding knife if you want to baton...but most folding knives are a poor choice for batonning with. For one thing, they have rather short blades.

As for failure under sane use, I think you'd have to have really crappy luck to get one that would fail that.
But I have encountered bad luck when buying reputable products at times, so okay.

As for Omega springs breaking, still have not encountered that with any of my knives, or my dad's knives either. Have one AXIS lock going back to 2003 that is still fine. And if one DID break in a "survival situation", I'd just jam a twig in the slot behind the lock bar. There you go, problem solved...can probably even baton with it then! :D
 
Batoning with folders makes the hottest fires.
Actually, wait, that's not right; talking about batoning with folders makes the hottest fires.
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Both my bugouts and my mini Adamas seem to be rock solid. Haven’t and won’t baton with them, but all held up to my spine whack testing. Granted, I’m not going to beat them against a tree stump, but in my simulated “oops, I lost control and hit the knife spine on something” test they all held strong. For what it’s worth, the lockbar on my miniAd engages the blade further in than my bugouts, so maybe they addressed the issue already.
 
I have now owned 2 adamas’s and 1 mini adamas. I love what these knives tried to be. But all 3 of them, had lock failure. The first one i noticed while cutting a plastic band on a pallet of brick at work, i cut through it with some force, as they are hard af to cut, amd the adamas cutting profile isnt good. The blade somehow came out of the lock and clipped the corner of my finger. So i locked it back up and lightly tapped the spine, lock failed again. I returned it to benchmade got credit bought another, knowingly i got it, and battoned a piece of wood for my smoker, this wood i could split with a pencil, its stupid dry and some sort of incredibly weak pine about 2” diameter, lock failed. Sent it back they “fixed it” failed again. Sometime later bought a mini adamas used, guy said he never really used it. I honestly thought it wouldnt fail aftwr about a week of use i was using the spine with the knife open to pry open a bin of hydrualic cement with a plastic paint can cap kinda thing… almost no pressure was put on it, it failed…
Morale of the story this knife series is the worst knife series of all time, perhaps the worst folding knife ever made. Every single person i know or have seen on social media used one, it fails. It isnt safe, and its STILL marketed as heavy use… plus personally i have not seen benchmade say a single thing. All they have to do is add a 1/4 inch to the bottom of the blade where the lock sits but they dont care about the safety or needs of their customers. It is just sad
You shouldn't be smoking with pine or other softwoods or woods with resin.
 
I think what would really cook some folks' noodle is if I went out this weekend, got some heavy plastic zipties, and took a video cutting them with one of my Adamas' and when no lock failure occured, being like "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?". 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is this a Vital Remains ref?
Ya gotta say it like this...
 
I have smacked this through nylon pallet strapping, hacked a few branches off, batoned through a couple of green tree branches to clear access roads, and levered it to break fertilizer tote straps.

Pretty tough knife and lock. Might be worth taking a look. The 4Max Scout is another tank that's even thicker.

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I don't own an Adamas, but imagine it should be able to do the same.

The few Grips I have do this sorta work just fine, but I would not push any folder into serious baton duty.

Folding knives are just not gonna perform any tough work very well.

Saying that, the Adamas should not have any issue doing the work the OP indicated. I would be pretty disappointed if it didn't.
 
I have smacked this through nylon pallet strapping, hacked a few branches off, batoned through a couple of green tree branches to clear access roads, and levered it to break fertilizer tote straps.

Pretty tough knife and lock. Might be worth taking a look. The 4Max Scout is another tank that's even thicker.

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I don't own an Adamas, but imagine it should be able to do the same.

The few Grips I have do this sorta work just fine, but I would not push any folder into serious baton duty.

Folding knives are just not gonna perform any tough work very well.

Saying that, the Adamas should not have any issue doing the work the OP indicated. I would be pretty disappointed if it didn't.
SR1?
Just sold an SRK for a compact or a SR1.
 
My Mini Adamas has been rock solid, used as a folder should be.

If Adamas-series knives failed as frequently as a small population of EweToob Influencers would have us believe, there’d be a lot more 9-fingered people in the world.

Count fingers, find truth.

Carry on.
 
Agreed.

Been here more than 20 years. This statement was true back then, and remains 100% unchanged today.

Still just as odd.

But apparently there are folders that come a lot closer to that ideal than the Adamas.

The bugout is apparently stronger in that regard.

So it is not like people are asking to bend physics. Just to own knives with the benefits they like.
 
But apparently there are folders that come a lot closer to that ideal than the Adamas.

The bugout is apparently stronger in that regard.

So it is not like people are asking to bend physics. Just to own knives with the benefits they like.
Like many folks in this thread, "apparently" is used quite frequently... as though folks have not tried the Adamas but are going on what somebody posts.

For anyone in this thread wants to actually try one out but just can't pull the trigger, I got a brand new one I'll send you for a hell of a deal, just so we can add one more objective post.

Because apparently, real world experience with pieces like this is dwarfed by the opinions of YouTube influencers and "well-I-heard" types.
 
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