Benchmade cuts up guns now?

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craytab said:
Calm down. It's just business. You don't understand the politics of the area. Oregon has great gun laws. A couple grand to one politician or another isn't going to change that.
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They won’t have great guns too much longer thanks to democrats.
 
mylest said:
You think if the US government wanted to turn on its citizens a couple good ol boys with AR15s are going to stop them? Lol good luck with that
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Actually it'd be a more than a few. And our military has proven it has a hard time dealing with enemy combatants in civilian populated areas. See they won't bomb us because we'll be in your neighborhood. So they'll have to do it person to person face to face. And we'll have no problem using you as a human shield.
 
SherlockT said:
This read a lot like "keep my name out of your mouth".

And I'm pretty sure the only way to actually change anything is to talk about it.
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I'm sorry if it sounded that way. Not my intention. The north Willamette valley is more than predominantly one way politically. So of course donations to local politicians are going to be one way.
 
bossbrigand said:
Here's some of my thoughts on these.

1) According to the FBI, ARs constitute an infinitesimally small fraction of firearms crime. While apparently frequently used in mass shootings, in truth they are usually abandoned by the shooter who ends up using a pistol or shotgun for the bulk of the work. They are widely used in hunting, especially small game, and are ideal for self defense because they don't over-penetrate (endangering other occupants of a home or apartment complex, for example). Moreover, an AR15 is functionally no different from, say, the Mini-14. What problems would banning the AR platform solve if similar 5.56 semi automatic rifles are exact drop-in replacements?
2) Why does the purchasing age need to be 21? At 18, you're a free adult - all your rights are unlocked. You can buy a car, buy a house, join the army, move anywhere you want, vote, become a police officer, etc. Under-21s constitute a small percentage of firearms crime and what percentage they do account for is mostly committed with guns stolen from relatives.
3) Registries have never been demonstrated to have any positive impact on crime rates (t. CDC, FBI). It's one of those things that sounds like it might be useful, but in practice, it isn't.
4) Background checks are already required on all sales of new firearms. They are not required for transfers between civilians - in fact, non-FFLs aren't allowed to run background checks through NICS. I can get behind this one - I would feel a lot better if I at least had the option of running the check before selling a firearm to another private party.
5) Training required is a tough one. I'm cool with it in principle, but who pays for it? How do you know if someone's already had it? Schools used to have basic firearms handling courses as part of health/life skills classes, but that's no longer the case. Should we go back to that?
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Gun registration has zero impact on crime. Not many criminals interested in following the law and registering their firearms before a crime. So who registers their gun? The law abiding citizen. Criminy this is simple logic that eludes millions of people apparently.
 
mylest said:
Well no civilian needs any AR platform, useless for hunting, overkill for self defense, (to be honest I’ve no idea how to solve that. No buyback would get all of them and confiscating isn’t going to work either), age needs to be 21 to purchase a firearm, it should have to be registered, background checks required no exceptions, and training should certainly be required as well. That’d be a nice start. Shotguns, handguns, hunting rifles all have some purpose other than firing dozens of rounds in seconds.
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You sir don't know what the second amendment is for. Please look it up.
 
mylest said:
Did I say anything about disarming? You can defend your family just as well with a handgun or shotgun.

You think if the US government wanted to turn on its citizens a couple good ol boys with AR15s are going to stop them? Lol good luck with that
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Luckily our founding fathers decided protection from tyrants was more important than your opinion.
 
00ChevyScott said:
I wish I could go the rest of my life without meeting someone like you. Unfortunately, I’m not that lucky.
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Yup I figured you’d be the type to bury your head in the sand and ignore any real issue. Remain cemented in your delusions.
 
mylest said:
Did I say anything about disarming? You can defend your family just as well with a handgun or shotgun.

You think if the US government wanted to turn on its citizens a couple good ol boys with AR15s are going to stop them? Lol good luck with that
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Tell that to the Americans who are still fighting and dying in Afghanistan against guerrilla warfare.

Yes gun ownership is defense against a tyrannical government.

Our government is afraid of us and they should be.
 
mylest said:
Yup I figured you’d be the type to bury your head in the sand and ignore any real issue. Remain cemented in your delusions.
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I engaged your suggestions with level responses and you ignored it to call me an idiotic right wing brigadier. I'm sorry you see the world this way. I really am. Life is much better when you can consider the positions of other people - sometimes you find out that you were wrong, and that's okay.
 
mylest said:
Well no civilian needs any AR platform, useless for hunting, overkill for self defense, (to be honest I’ve no idea how to solve that. No buyback would get all of them and confiscating isn’t going to work either), age needs to be 21 to purchase a firearm, it should have to be registered, background checks required no exceptions, and training should certainly be required as well. That’d be a nice start. Shotguns, handguns, hunting rifles all have some purpose other than firing dozens of rounds in seconds.
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1. You don't get to make that decision.

2. 2A says the government doesn't have the authority to make that decision.

3. I hunt hogs with one of my ARs.
You should try it.
4. Most ARs are semi automatic and don't fire any faster than a Ruger 10/22 .22 cal squirrel rifle, or a common Glock handgun. One trigger pull...one round fired.


Fully auto ARs require a federal tax stamp and months of waiting, and extra thourough background checks.
It's been that way since 1968.


You really don't know what you are talking about do you?
 
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