Benchmade cuts up guns now?

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American knife company helps out local PD when asked.
Guns used in the commission of a crime, in which presumably the police did their job, justice was served, and the victims families can gain some peace in the fact that that particular weapon will no longer be used again, are destroyed... just like happens in innumerable PDS across the country.

For a forum that’s always quick to support PDs and American knife companies this seems like a particularly myopic knee jerk reaction. Even after the police explain the situation, which multiplies the ridiculousness.

When we lose another USA made company for this absurd witch hunt you can all pat yourselves in the back and wonder why the Chinese are kicking our ass in production knives some more.
 
Coyja said:
American knife company helps out local PD when asked.
Guns used in the commission of a crime, in which presumably the police did their job, justice was served, and the victims families can gain some peace in the fact that that particular weapon will no longer be used again, are destroyed... just like happens in innumerable PDS across the country.
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That's not what these guns were.
 
Well I will be interested in seeing BMs response to all of this ... and to find out if it were old evidence firearms only or if it were buy back firearms also or just what and why ...

but I will say I love my knives and would fight for our right to maintain them ...

just as I am a strong outspoken 2A advocate and support it with not only my money for donations but help in providing time at some events and teaching youth gun safety and outdoor skills ...

and I can say that if BM doesn't have a very good statement in response to the villagers grabbbing their torches ... I can promise BM will never see another cent from me ....and I may make a video cutting or or melting the few BMs I have around somewhere ...

in this day and age it is almost to the point that "if you aren't with me ... then you're against me" with the battle over 2A rights ... doesn't leave much room for errors ... same with knfe legislation ... may look harmless but it never is...

and you know the other side will attempt to use it for polictical reasons etc ... so IMHO ... yeah it does matter ... alot more then BM may even have considered ...

was a very bad choice ... even if made with the best of intentions.
 
tokerblue said:
The more reason that most people should use it more sparingly.
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You are not wrong, but they don't much have a choice. Yes it was a mistake, but a wall of text of context isn't what comes to every social media manager's mind when they think they are doing the right thing.

Would you rather the TSA style of every belt buckle and tie-pin taken away from terrorists? The pic they show looks to me like an SKS and an 870. So my guess is that the SKS had a back yard trigger job or maybe had been modified for more than semi auto, and the 870 had been chopped, or had been turned in with the expressed intent that it should be destroyed. Either that or its two guns worth 100$ combined. But see I'm just guessing. If you got proof, show some.
 
Coyja said:
It is according to the police dept. I understand that little bit of info doesn’t fit the narrative, but I tend to believe the police over some Googlefu warriors on Facebook
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The Facebook post that I quoted said that these guns were turned in by the community.
 
tokerblue said:
The Facebook post that I quoted said that these guns were turned in by the community.
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Oh, FFS man...
The literal next sentence in the PDs post is that they also have guns that were used in the commission of a crime and they are court ordered to be destroyed after trial.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
Well I will be interested in seeing BMs response to all of this ... and to find out if it were old evidence firearms only or if it were buy back firearms also or just what and why ...

but I will say I love my knives and would fight for our right to maintain them ...

just as I am a strong outspoken 2A advocate and support it with not only my money for donations but help in providing time at some events and teaching youth gun safety and outdoor skills ...

and I can say that if BM doesn't have a very good statement in response to the villagers grabbbing their torches ... I can promise BM will never see another cent from me ....and I may make a video cutting or or melting the few BMs I have around somewhere ...

in this day and age it is almost to the point that "if you aren't with me ... then you're against me" with the battle over 2A rights ... doesn't leave much room for errors ... same with knfe legislation ... may look harmless but it never is...

and you know the other side will attempt to use it for polictical reasons etc ... so IMHO ... yeah it does matter ... alot more then BM may even have considered ...

was a very bad choice ... even if made with the best of intentions.
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There is never any reasoning with the villagers. The day and age of "almost" past long ago. If there is no room for error, there is no room for nuance, then everyone is the enemy, and there are no longer any allies.

In any case, I've wasted more than enough of my day on this. Let me know when you've all worked out the worlds problems.
 
Coyja said:
Oh, FFS man...
The literal next sentence in the PDs post is that they also have guns that were used in the commission of a crime and they are court ordered to be destroyed after trial.
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Meaning that some were simply turned in by the community. Your original post made it seem like all of these guns were used in a crime. That being said, Benchmade destroying guns doesn't bother me nearly as much as the political donations they made to anti-2A candidates.
 
So, just so I’m clear:

Supporting the 2A is good... except when other 2A supporters chose to turn in their property to the police to destroy properly in accordance with their wishes. In any other case, it would be their property their wishes, but because it’s a gun they no longer have the personal freedom to determine they want it destroyed.

Supporting the police is good. Except when, at the very end of doing their job exactly as asked and catching criminals and firearms they used in illegal and or violent ways, they destroy those fire arms (as ordered by a judge, presumably to deter future crime, continue to make or streets safer, and actually as a deterrent to anyone that would cause reason to draw negative attention toward gun ownership through illegal activity with firearms).

Supporting American knife companies is good, except if they help police or private citizens in the course of either of the former points.

Does that sum it up?
 
Coyja said:
The literal next sentence in the PDs post is that they also have guns that were used in the commission of a crime and they are court ordered to be destroyed after trial.
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PD could of rented some demo saws.
Even buy some from Harbor freight.
Oxy-Act gas set up is cheap.
 
Coyja said:
American knife company helps out local PD when asked.
Guns used in the commission of a crime, in which presumably the police did their job, justice was served, and the victims families can gain some peace in the fact that that particular weapon will no longer be used again, are destroyed... just like happens in innumerable PDS across the country.

For a forum that’s always quick to support PDs and American knife companies this seems like a particularly myopic knee jerk reaction. Even after the police explain the situation, which multiplies the ridiculousness.

When we lose another USA made company for this absurd witch hunt you can all pat yourselves in the back and wonder why the Chinese are kicking our ass in production knives some more.
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AMEN Brother
 
Coyja said:
So, just so I’m clear:

Supporting the 2A is good... except when other 2A supporters chose to turn in their property to the police to destroy properly in accordance with their wishes. In any other case, it would be their property their wishes, but because it’s a gun they no longer have the personal freedom to determine they want it destroyed.
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What a pro-2A company.
http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Ron_Wyden_Gun_Control.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Darlene_Hooley_Gun_Control.htm
 
What is the point of the police department even posting that anyways. Oregon city and a good portion of the surrounding areas, especially south of there into the country a bit more are not interested in guns being turned in to be destroyed, whatever the reason may be.
 
Coyja said:
So, just so I’m clear:

Supporting the 2A is good... except when other 2A supporters chose to turn in their property to the police to destroy properly in accordance with their wishes. In any other case, it would be their property their wishes, but because it’s a gun they no longer have the personal freedom to determine they want it destroyed.

Supporting the police is good. Except when, at the very end of doing their job exactly as asked and catching criminals and firearms they used in illegal and or violent ways, they destroy those fire arms (as ordered by a judge, presumably to deter future crime, continue to make or streets safer, and actually as a deterrent to anyone that would cause reason to draw negative attention toward gun ownership through illegal activity with firearms).

Supporting American knife companies is good, except if they help police or private citizens in the course of either of the former points.

Does that sum it up?
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Me thinks...ahh, never mind.
tokerblue said:
2W5STrD.jpg

What a pro-2A company.
http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Ron_Wyden_Gun_Control.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Darlene_Hooley_Gun_Control.htm
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AMEN Brother.
 
Once again, since reading clarity does not seem to be a strong suit here...
I didn’t say they did or didn’t support the 2A. They supported the police when asked. Period.
Anything else is just trying to shake the tree. People want to make it political and so many are happy to oblige with the 2A outrage culture.
I guess I’ll go lobby for a new Ganzo forum the way this mess is headed.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
 
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