Benchmade pricing seems to have changed

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IMO this is whole situation is made worst by Benchmade not having a representative go on here to explain their side of things from the beginning.
 
glocker199 said:
In all fairness, a foreign made lock back is not exactly an apples to apples comparison to a US made knife with an advanced lock like the Axis.
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Understood, but with such a price difference the Spydies look more appealing.

Also, when you charge premium prices for a product the customers become a lot more picky about small flaws... e.g. a lot of knives will get sent back for things like blade slightly off center, not sharp, or rough Axis locks whereas at a lower price point minor flaws are acceptable.
 
jkarp_53 said:
Not when I already own the SHOT version of the 585-1 in full G-10. M390 or not It's the better knife, less flash.
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I own two 585 Mini-Barrages but don't use them, everything is nice except the blades belly is too big for normal cutting/slicing, the 586 blade shape is much better at least for me.

I will temper my disappointment in the Benchmade price increase, but won't buy any more current models - will wait to see what 2014 models have to offer.
 
pbcg said:
I realized the question was asked so I can't hammer too hard but I have to express what I consider to be very poor form to have people coming into a companies sub forum and start listing knives form other manufactures they think are better or offer better value.

Out of respect I wouldn't go into the Spyderco sub forum and talk about the BM knives that I think are "better" offerings or value for the price or threads in General about ZT and say what model BM's I think offer better strength or hard use for less then half the price of some of these ZT knives.

Just something that is starting to bother be in terms of the direction this thread is going.

This is still the BM sub forum and talking about how you think or feel a given Spyderco or any brand is better then BM is a topic for the general forum. Not the companies sub forum.

As to the topic of thread, I'd leally like to hear from the BM rep about that. I don't order from the places listed that have raised their prices and checked and where I do buy from the prices have remained the same so before we / I go off half cocked I would really appreciate some feedback for the BM mod on this.
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Then Maybe someone from BM should chime in.

Your suggestion is like saying to punish the entire class for something one kid did wrong, rather than the kid that did it. I say punish the kid that is responsible. My post is in not any more "poor form" than Benchmade dictating price fixing to their dealers. It's in the BM subforum because they are the ones doing what this thread is about. Not a bunch of other companies. I think it is fine right here in the BM subforum.
 
I've generally felt that most BMs are a really solid deal for what you get; if this price bump goes through it's going to be a lot more of a model-by-model toss up for me. As mentioned above, the 940 is a great knife, but I don't know that it's worth $180 to me. The 710 is IMO a pretty darn good deal at ~$115, but if $150 is going to be the new going price... well, I do kind of prefer S30V over D2, and there are plenty of other options for it at that price range.

On the other hand, I think the 581 would still be worth it at $190 - bolsters + M390 and great f&f if it's anything like the 586 I picked up for a friend recently. I really do like M390/CTS-204P and there aren't that many production folders using them. It's just, you know, not as awesome a deal as it would be at $145 or so. Same thing on the 810 - big ol' piece of CPM-M4, still worth it for $180, IMO.

On a completely unrelated note I ordered a 581 this morning so I know I'll have one for $145... :eek: :D :D

Looking forward to seeing how it compares to the 730-1202. I've got high hopes. :)
 
I guess I am the "kid getting the whole class sent to detention". Here are my thoughts on that. I have recently (last month or two) sold or traded EVERY ONE OF MY OTHER KNIVES, and replaced with BM. I am now 100% Benchmade. I have probably 30 BM knives, and most are knives like AFO's, Strykers, 710's, 810's, and the like. In this, I am sure you can imagine the $$$ I have tied up in this. So please spare me the indignation, of me pissing on somebody's sub forum. That is not the case here.

You want to discuss this sub forum? Please let's do. Here again is my take on that as a whole. 1. If there was anybody, anybody at all, that would remotely be here to answer the first question, there may be a little less haterade being sipped here. A little information will always kill a lot of trouble. 2. Maybe this discussion about ZT and Spyderco, is a healthy thing for Benchmade. I think that they need to hear, and fully understand, that there are people here, and they have money. Act a fool, and they will pack their shit, and head elsewhere.

Just my take guys. I guess if BM turns completely stupid, and I can't hack it, I'll just head to the mid tech market. I hear there are several good ones to be had there.
 
David Lowry said:
Then Maybe someone from BM should chime in.

Your suggestion is like saying to punish the entire class for something one kid did wrong, rather than the kid that did it. I say punish the kid that is responsible. My post is in not any more "poor form" than Benchmade dictating price fixing to their dealers. It's in the BM subforum because they are the ones doing what this thread is about. Not a bunch of other companies. I think it is fine right here in the BM subforum.
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Not trying to punish anyone! I said, Going into a companies sub forum and comparing their products to other brands, expressing a preference for other brands, saying what brands you think are "better" in that companies sub forum is poor form at a minimum and could add be bashing at worst regardless of the sub forum in question. Especially when done by members who rarely if ever contribute to that sub forum. (Not directed at you)

This is long established etiquette here on BFC. I stand by my statement but want to make clear my intent was NOT to offend or insult you or anyone else with my post. Only a reminder as the topic was drifting into a Brand x is better then Brand Y discussion.

I would like just as much as everyone else to have some clarification of the OP.

Like I said I'd really like to hear from BM on this and agree they should chime in. I will also withhold comment or speculation for now until I hear from them on the subject. Some places are raising their prices and some are not. If there was an across the board increase then it would be pretty clear and I'd make my feeling's on the subject known but since it isn't, at least yet, perhaps there's another reason.

If BM chooses not to comment on this thread then I will be the first to express my great displeasure as I think it's a legitimate question and concern and reasonable to be asked, Especially for the fans and users of BM knives who will be effected the most by any major increases in price.
 
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At this point my concern is that Benchmade will come down hard on the dealers who have not yet changed their prices.
 
It may be possible that BMC is evaluating their stance in market where their product value is accepted by end consumers. As L2Bravo and SkyWalker31 have stated and can't agree more for the price vs. quality is the best IMO. Axis lock is distinctive feature that is near 100% domination in market. This feature added with BMC's manufacture QM, choice of materials are the reason I prefer them.

I am economically displeased that discounted "stocks" become unavailable during holiday gift purchase period. I would not think it would be fair to BMC to expose their sales figure nor need to expose their market strategy. I respect their stance in upholding their product value. How would you feel if BMC start cranking out very cheap $30 model that has their logo on it. I think MBC discontinuing Red Class was similar move. It may have led to flooding of many pirated copy from country start with "C" ;)

Yes, I would also like to be able to afford many and brag that I have dozens of Gold class semi-custom knives, but that works if the product has solid value and reputation. Would you buy recent Ferrari in 5 digit or low 6? You would think something is wrong, wouldn't you?

I would like to see how market reacts. If this policy completely devastate Holiday purchase, then I am sure the price will be adjusted. We should love free market and appreciate the economy.

MFL
 
MobileFireLord said:
It may be possible that BMC is evaluating their stance in market where their product value is accepted by end consumers. As L2Bravo and SkyWalker31 have stated and can't agree more for the price vs. quality is the best IMO. Axis lock is distinctive feature that is near 100% domination in market. This feature added with BMC's manufacture QM, choice of materials are the reason I prefer them.

I am economically displeased that discounted "stocks" become unavailable during holiday gift purchase period. I would not think it would be fair to BMC to expose their sales figure nor need to expose their market strategy. I respect their stance in upholding their product value. How would you feel if BMC start cranking out very cheap $30 model that has their logo on it. I think MBC discontinuing Red Class was similar move. It may have led to flooding of many pirated copy from country start with "C" ;)

Yes, I would also like to be able to afford many and brag that I have dozens of Gold class semi-custom knives, but that works if the product has solid value and reputation. Would you buy recent Ferrari in 5 digit or low 6? You would think something is wrong, wouldn't you?

I would like to see how market reacts. If this policy completely devastate Holiday purchase, then I am sure the price will be adjusted. We should love free market and appreciate the economy.

MFL
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Well put......now report to detention after school.
 
MobileFireLord said:
It may be possible that BMC is evaluating their stance in market where their product value is accepted by end consumers. As L2Bravo and SkyWalker31 have stated and can't agree more for the price vs. quality is the best IMO. Axis lock is distinctive feature that is near 100% domination in market. This feature added with BMC's manufacture QM, choice of materials are the reason I prefer them.

I am economically displeased that discounted "stocks" become unavailable during holiday gift purchase period. I would not think it would be fair to BMC to expose their sales figure nor need to expose their market strategy. I respect their stance in upholding their product value. How would you feel if BMC start cranking out very cheap $30 model that has their logo on it. I think MBC discontinuing Red Class was similar move. It may have led to flooding of many pirated copy from country start with "C" ;)

Yes, I would also like to be able to afford many and brag that I have dozens of Gold class semi-custom knives, but that works if the product has solid value and reputation. Would you buy recent Ferrari in 5 digit or low 6? You would think something is wrong, wouldn't you?

I would like to see how market reacts. If this policy completely devastate Holiday purchase, then I am sure the price will be adjusted. We should love free market and appreciate the economy.

MFL
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Maybe if that Ferrari came with a v6 in it. a 940 would cost 180 without coupon codes, for aluminum handles and s30v? no thanks

I can get supersteel and titanium for that price, don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to get every knife for nothing. The value just isn't there for me.
 
I have seen Benchmade's prices fluctuate for a while and never thought much of it, I just wait for it to go back down.
Lucky for me I have several already and have begun collecting discontinued models anyways so the price hike doesn't concern me.

IF it did concern me, I would still gladly pay a bit more for a proven steel with an AXIS lock.
 
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KnifeWorks shipped the order I placed last night for a backup 810 at the old value pricing. Yippee! Now, I have backups for the three Benchmade folders I use most often: 707, 940 and 810.
 
Hello Benchmade; Ryan, Nolan, heck, even Les. We're now at four pages on this post, and sentiment reads as negative in your favor. I would ask for a definitive just so we don't burn friendships and enthusiasm in the process of simply not knowing. One of us just sold off his other knives and has gone pure Oregon City. I've been running with the same choice for eight years and would like to know if I should stop being so loyal.

Hello out there - anyone? :rolleyes:
 
Benchmade is never one here. Pretty sad considering sal will answer some questions directly pretty often. With the world relying on technology for most of its business now days, how hard would it be to hire a high school kid to cruise forums and social network like facebook. Try as you might benchmade will not listen.
 
jkarp_53 said:
Hello Benchmade; Ryan, Nolan, heck, even Les. We're now at four pages on this post, and sentiment reads as negative in your favor. I would ask for a definitive just so we don't burn friendships and enthusiasm in the process of simply not knowing. One of us just sold off his other knives and has gone pure Oregon City. I've been running with the same choice for eight years and would like to know if I should stop being so loyal.

Hello out there - anyone? :rolleyes:
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I think this is the voice of reason. Well put Sir.

I'll second that sentiment. Let's not use our knives of our new favorite brands, to cut each other's throats. I think the bottom line here, is that we all like BM, and are a little dissapointed. Some of us can stomach the change, should it be permanent, and some cannot. I would imagine those that can't, are for a variety of reasons. Some don't see the value, some cannot eat the cost, and then some just do it out of principle. I can respect every one of those valid reasons. So I guess let's hope that BM put's their head in reverse, and backs it fully out of their ass, and gets on the ball.

And for shit's sake man, would it hurt you guys to answer a damn question here once a quarter or so? You are paying for it, shouldn't you use it? FYI, the BM.com forum is deader than the dead sea. You need to go where the people are, not hope they flock to you.
 
I guess I'm a newcomer when it comes to Benchmade. My first Benchmade was purchased only 15 years ago. :rolleyes: I've seen their pricing policies come and go. Benchmade makes a great knife, but it is not so compelling that a strictly-enforced no discount policy would survive in my buying preferences - far from it.

Most manufacturers have experimented with this from time to time. Most come to their senses and let the market prevail. Those that don't? - they squeeze the blood out of a few irrational loyalists and the rest of us move on and follow *value* rather than hype.

I trust that if Benchmade is really thinking about cracking down on discounts they will re-think. :rolleyes:
 
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