Benchmade QC issues?

The idea that there are no QC problems at BM just because there aren’t any pictures of it is asinine. I believe that’s a logical fallacy called the appeal to ignorance. It’s bittersweet to see this thread starting to fill with those pictures.

Just because there aren’t any pictures of broken down Yugo’s doesn’t make them a reliable car.

Exactly. Same as someone keeps saying he does not believe ZT has any lock slip issues simply because he has not personally experienced any.
 
Exactly. Same as someone keeps saying he does not believe ZT has any lock slip issues simply because he has not personally experienced any.
But the problem becomes when some people post about it over and over and over but can't provide their own proof. There is a lot of parroting that goes on. Posting of other people's videos. That means squat to me here. I want to know about actual quality member's experiences. If all you do is constantly complain, you better be able to back it up with evidence. Your own evidence.
 
It does not help when someone post the same problem over and over. On every thread and site he can find.
Post once and get over it already, after a while you'll sound like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum.
If you don't like a product, don't buy it.
My 2 cents
 
If feel it’s like being a disappointed father, and Benchmade is the son. There is a lot of potential there, but some of the decisions are not living up to the expectations. Lil’ Benchmade could be studying and learning, instead is partying and passing out drunk in the lawn coming home. I want nothing but the best for Benchmade, it was my first real knife 15 years ago.

I’ll admit, we are a minority here when it comes to Benchmades sales. I could see our views not effecting them in the slightest. They’ve kind of reached legendary status for the jo schmo knife buyer. They could profit on name alone at this point.

Or I could be a yelling 2 yr old parroting. Cause I have nothing better to do.:rolleyes:
 
If the knife is not that old, send it back to Benchmade. I hear they have excellent customer service. Maybe they can fix it for FREE.

I don’t really mind it being off center THAT much. The blade play thing bothers me, but I’ve already modified the stop pin and liners, so I believe my warranty is voided. I’ll likely take more material off the stop pin and see what happens. Though the blade play is annoying, it doesn’t affect the functionality of the knife.
 
For the last 10 years I have purchased a lot of Benchmades.
Every single one of them has been online sight unseen.
In those ten years I have sent 2 knives back to BM (but none in the last 4 years).
Here's a list of the models that I have purchased in the last 4 years, all were BNIB.

Anthem - 2 knives
Crooked River - 2 knives
Loco (fullsize) - 3 knives
Loco (mini) - 2 knives
Fact
Bugout
Freek
Presidio II
Rukus II
AFO II
CLA
Phaeton - 3 knives
Vallation
Vector
Proper
710

23(+/-) knives no issues.
Now, I'm not making this stuff up, nor am I saying there are no issues
I'm just trying to keep it real here.
Since we are taking the time to note the number of times/instances where there is some sort of QC issue.
We should also take take the time to note the number times/instances where there are no QC issues.
I'm just sayin'.
 
The good news is, that all this talk makes me want to throw a new edge on my 940 and just punish the crap out of it. Benchmades are tough at the least.
 
Ohhh... That's a bad one.. The dreaded "longpin"?

I think that is the cause of a lot of the side to side bladeplay problems on BM knives.
It came without one of the washers. Definitely had blade play with that knife. :poop:
 
...Since we are taking the time to note the number of times/instances where there is some sort of QC issue.
We should also take take the time to note the number times/instances where there are no QC issues.
I'm just sayin'.

Thank you.
 
Exactly. Same as someone keeps saying he does not believe ZT has any lock slip issues simply because he has not personally experienced any.

I believe the evidence of my eyes.
I'll believe it when I see it myself.

If you don't like a product, don't buy it.

Exactly.
I don't buy the things I don't like, and this policy has worked well for me. :thumbsup:
 
Words not pictures,.slight blade play isn't a serious Qc issue. Things like I've heard doesn't really say or prove anything. Was just looking for some examples. Sure you can find some people on here chiming in but 99 percent are just words. Not even a picture that they even own a Benchmade.

My experience Benchmade makes a great product.
Blade play of any sort isn't acceptable on a 300 dollar knife, especially vertical. Plus, how is my picture of the knife supposed to convey that there's play? You're saying me posting pictures of my (in some cases now long gone) Benchmade knives is all you need? What a joke.

You know, all this requiring picture evidence talk cuts both ways. I'd be curious to personally see other people's "perfect" knives. It seems to me that tons of people don't notice or care about CQ issues, especially when reselling knives...
 
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Blade play of any sort isn't acceptable on a 300 dollar knife, especially vertical. Plus, how is my picture of the knife supposed to convey that there's play? You're saying me posting pictures of my (in some cases now long gone) Benchmade knives is all you need? What a joke.

The other day, I brought a resume to the local gun shop, which is an authorized Benchmade dealer.
Walked out with a new Benchmade Jungle Bolo fixed blade. :)
Perfect grinds, perfect tip, and no vertical or sideways play (hey, don't laugh...I had a cheap fixed blade years ago that wiggled up and down AND sideways!).

Considering that Benchmade has pocket knives, small fixed blades, and large fixed blade knives, it is not an exaggeration if someone says Benchmade is all they need. However, Benchmade is not all I want...there are many knives from many manufacturers that I want.
 
I will say there is one area that Benchmade tends to suck at: Making sheaths. :(
About 50% of the fixed blade sheaths I have gotten from them sucked in one way or other.
Thankfully the Jungle Bolo sheath is pretty good, so I don't have to buy another sheath right away.

It isn't QC issues with their sheaths though, it is crappy design.
Some of them are just not thought out right at all.
 
The other day, I brought a resume to the local gun shop, which is an authorized Benchmade dealer.
Walked out with a new Benchmade Jungle Bolo fixed blade. :)
Perfect grinds, perfect tip, and no vertical or sideways play (hey, don't laugh...I had a cheap fixed blade years ago that wiggled up and down AND sideways!).

Considering that Benchmade has pocket knives, small fixed blades, and large fixed blade knives, it is not an exaggeration if someone says Benchmade is all they need. However, Benchmade is not all I want...there are many knives from many manufacturers that I want.
They definitely can make a fantastic blade... I wouldn't give up my perfect example of a knifeworks M390 contego for anything, that's for sure. I just want the company that made my first real knife to do better, that's all.
 
They definitely can make a fantastic blade... I wouldn't give up my perfect example of a knifeworks M390 contego for anything, that's for sure. I just want the company that made my first real knife to do better, that's all.

I say send them emails explaining how much you like your perfect knife from them, but that your experiences of spotty QC have made it so you are hesitant to buy more of their knives.

When I have experienced issues from knife manufacturers, I always contact them. If enough people who buy their products write with complaints, things do change; they are in the business of making money.

Threads on knife forums tend to fall into the background noise of the overall internet, where people complain all the time about everything...it's easy to ignore them. But communications from paying customers expressing opinions as to what will make them spend more money is an entirely different thing.
 
I say send them emails explaining how much you like your perfect knife from them, but that your experiences of spotty QC have made it so you are hesitant to buy more of their knives.

When I have experienced issues from knife manufacturers, I always contact them. If enough people who buy their products write with complaints, things do change; they are in the business of making money.

Threads on knife forums tend to fall into the background noise of the overall internet, where people complain all the time about everything...it's easy to ignore them. But communications from paying customers expressing opinions as to what will make them spend more money is an entirely different thing.

Honestly, I'm wary to send them emails because the response I expect is to send back any defective knives back to them for repair. Thing is, then I'm out shipping money and time, and they never even did anything to my knives last time I sent a couple back. In fact, they made them worse.

I just don't know how to politely express my disappointment to them over things like that.
 
Honestly, I'm wary to send them emails because the response I expect is to send back any defective knives back to them for repair. Thing is, then I'm out shipping money and time, and they never even did anything to my knives last time I sent a couple back. In fact, they made them worse.

I just don't know how to politely express my disappointment to them over things like that.

In the email mention that last time warranty work didn't fix whatever issues you had with it, so that is not the solution you are looking for. Simply list what it is you found to be objectionable with the knives, and that if these issues were addressed in future releases, you'd be buying more Benchmade knives.

Mention how happy you are with your Benchmade that was made correctly, so you know they can meet your expectations of quality.

That's about it.
 
In the email mention that last time warranty work didn't fix whatever issues you had with it, so that is not the solution you are looking for. Simply list what it is you found to be objectionable with the knives, and that if these issues were addressed in future releases, you'd be buying more Benchmade knives.

Mention how happy you are with your Benchmade that was made correctly, so you know they can meet your expectations of quality.

That's about it.
That's a positive idea. I might try that.

Here's hoping that my Presidio 2 our for delivery now doesn't give me the excuse to...
 
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