Benchmade steals the spyderhole

Is the doctine of equivalents a doctine of patent law? If so, how does it interface with trademark law?

Tsk, tsk, you didn't read the TMEP stuff on the relationship of prior utility patents to trademarks and burdens of proof did you? You would know where this is going if so.



The Doctrine of Equivalents
By Eugene R. Quinn, Jr.

On May 28, 2002, a unanimous United States Supreme Court issued its decision in the much anticipated case of Festo Corp. v. Shoketsu Kinzoku Kogyo Kabushiki Co., LTD. The Supreme Court vacated and remanded the case, reaffirmed Warner Jenkinson, and perhaps most importantly the Court rejected the complete-bar approach to the doctrine of equivalents adopted by the Federal Circuit in all cases where amendments are made during prosecution of the patent. The Court did, however, place upon the patentee "the burden of showing that the amendment does not surrender the particular equivalent in question." For more information on the Supreme Court decision in Festo CLICK HERE.

On September 26, 2003, the Federal Circuit issued the follow up opinion in Festo Corp. v. Shoketsu Kinzoku Kogyo Kabushiki (Fed. Cir., 2003) - On remand from the US Supreme Court, the sole issue before the Federal Circuit was whether Festo can rebut the presumption that the filing of narrowing amendments for the two patents in suit surrendered all subject matter between the original claim limitations and the amended claim limitations. The Federal Circuit concluded that Festo cannot overcome that presumption by demonstrating that the rationale underlying the narrowing amendments bore no more than a tangential relation to the accused equivalents or by demonstrating that there was "some other reason" such that the patentee could not reasonably have been expected to have described the accused equivalents. However, the Federal Circuit did remand to the district court in order for the district court to determine whether Festo can rebut the presumption of surrender by establishing that the equivalents in question would have been unforeseeable to one of ordinary skill in the art at the time of the amendments.

More recently, however, in Honeywell International Inc. v. Sundstrand Corp., 2004 U.S. App. LEXIS 10754 (Fed. Cir., June 2, 2004), the Federal Circuit seems to have all but killed any claim for equivalent infringement for the foreseeable future. In a very disappointing (and intellecutally dishonest) decision, the Federal Circuit, sitting en banc, held that the rewriting of dependent claims into independent form coupled with the cancellation of the original independent claims creates a presumption of prosecution history estoppel.



Doctrine of Equivalents Basics

A party who fails to prove literal infringement claim may prove infringement under the doctrine of equivalents when the differences between the claimed invention and the accused device are insubstantial. Pall Corp. v. Micron Separations, Inc., 66 F.3d 1211, 1218 (Fed.Cir.1995), cert. denied, --- U.S. ----, 117 S.Ct. 1243, 137 L.Ed.2d 326 (1997). The Supreme Court has emphasized that the focus of the analysis under this doctrine must be on each separate element of the invention, rather than on the invention as a whole. Warner-Jenkinson Co., Inc. v. Hilton Davis Chem. Co., 520 U.S. 17, 117 S.Ct. 1040, 137 L.Ed.2d 146 (1997). The Court stated:

Each element contained in a patent claim is deemed material to defining the scope of the patented invention, and thus the doctrine must be applied to individual elements of the claim, not to the invention as a whole. It is important to ensure that the application of the doctrine, even as to an individual element, is not allowed such broad play as to effectively eliminate that element in its entirety.

Id. at 1049.




Elaborating on the Doctrine of Equivalents

Below is an excerpt from Festo Corp. v. Shoketsu Kinzoku Kogyo Kabushiki Co., Ltd., 234 F.3d 558, 564-565 (Fed. Cir. 2000), which has since been vacated by the United States Supreme Court. In vacating and remanding the case, the US Supreme Court specifically rejected the complete-bar approach to amendments and the doctrine of equivalents adopted by the Federal Circuit. Nevertheless, the below excerpt does adequately, succinctly and quite correctly state the general law applicable to the doctrine of equivalents. In Festo the majority decision of the Federal Circuit explained:

The doctrine of equivalents prevents an accused infringer from avoiding liability for infringement by changing only minor or insubstantial details of a claimed invention while retaining the invention's essential identity. Graver Tank Mfg Co. v. Linde Air Products Co., 339 U.S. 605, 608 (1950). The doctrine of equivalents is utilized "'[t]o temper unsparing logic and prevent an infringer from stealing the benefit of the invention.'" Id. (quoting Royal Typewriter Co. v. Remington Rand, Inc., 168 F.2d 691, 692, 77 USPQ 517, 518 (2d Cir. 1948) (Hand, J.)). In pursuing these goals, the doctrine attempts to strike a balance between ensuring that the patentee enjoys the full benefit of his patent and ensuring that the claims give "fair notice" of the patent's scope. London v. Carson Pirie Scott & Co., 946 F.2d 1534, 1538, 20 USPQ2d 1456, 1458-59 (Fed. Cir. 1991). This balance can be easily upset, however, because "the doctrine of equivalents, when applied broadly, conflicts with the definitional and public-notice functions of the statutory claiming requirement." Warner Jenkinson Co., Inc. v. Hilton Davis Chemical Co., 520 U.S. 17, 29 (1997).

Prosecution history estoppel is one tool that prevents the doctrine of equivalents from vitiating the notice function of claims. Charles Greiner & Co. v. Mari-Med Mfg., Inc., 962 F.2d 1031, 1036, 22 USPQ2d 1526, 1529-30 (Fed. Cir. 1992). Actions by the patentee, including claim amendments and arguments made before the Patent Office, may give rise to prosecution history estoppel. Pharmacia & Upjohn Co. v. Mylan Pharms., Inc., 170 F.3d 1373, 1376-77, 50 USPQ2d 1033, 1036 (Fed. Cir. 1999). "Prosecution history estoppel precludes a patentee from obtaining under the doctrine of equivalents coverage of subject matter that has been relinquished during the prosecution of its patent application." Id. at 1376, 50 USPQ2d at 1036. Therefore, "[t]he doctrine of equivalents is subservient to . . . [prosecution history] estoppel." Autogiro Co. v. United States, 384 F.2d 391, 400-01, 155 USPQ 697, 705 (Ct. Cl. 1967). The logic of prosecution history estoppel is that the patentee, during prosecution, has created a record that fairly notifies the public that the patentee has surrendered the right to claim particular matter as within the reach of the patent.




The Reverse Doctrine of Equivalents

"[W]here a device is so far changed in principle from a patented article that it performs the same or a similar function in a substantially different way, but nevertheless falls within the literal words of the claim, the doctrine of equivalents may be used [in reverse] to restrict the claim and defeat the patentee's action for infringement." Graver Tank & Mfg. Co. v. Linde Air Prods. Co., 339 U.S. 605, 608-09, 70 S.Ct. 854, 856, 94 L.Ed. 1097 (1950)) (alteration in original); see also Boyden Power-Brake Co. v. Westinghouse, 170 U.S. 537, 568, 18 S.Ct. 707, 722, 42 L.Ed. 1136 (1898) ("The patentee may bring the defendant within the letter of his claims, but if the latter has so far changed the principle of the device that the claims of the patent, literally construed, have ceased to represent his actual invention, he is as little subject to be adjudged an infringer as one who has violated the letter of a statute has to be convicted, when he has done nothing in conflict with its spirit and intent.").



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Now, someone can cut and paste the relevant patent here to further the discussion.
 
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However, the badge and the grill are trademarked, and they were both used. BTW, the grill is also functional. Sounds like a good comparison to this situation, however I'm not much on cars.

Chrysler bought 5% of Maserati a couple years before the TC was announced (and Lee had a good relationship with them from the Pantera) The TC had an engine by long time partner Mitsubishi.

Daimler-Chrysler - Maybach, Mecrcedes Benz, Smart, Dodge, Chysler, Jeep, Freightliner, Fuso, Sterling, Western Star, Thomas, Setra, Orion, Detroit Diesel

GM-Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, HUMMER, Opel, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn, Vauxhall

FoMoCo-Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Mazda, Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover, Aston Martin, New Holland

etc, etc
the auto industry is a really bad choice to try and reference in this matter, imo


Anyway, if the patent was for a depression, how relevant is it to the hole TM, digital?
 
Chrysler bought 5% of Maserati a couple years before the TC was announced (and Lee had a good relationship with them from the Pantera) The TC had an engine by long time partner Mitsubishi.

Daimler-Chrysler - Maybach, Mecrcedes Benz, Smart, Dodge, Chysler, Jeep, Freightliner, Fuso, Sterling, Western Star, Thomas, Setra, Orion, Detroit Diesel

GM-Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, HUMMER, Opel, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn, Vauxhall

FoMoCo-Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Mazda, Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover, Aston Martin, New Holland

etc, etc
the auto industry is a really bad choice to try and reference in this matter, imo


Anyway, if the patent was for a depression, how relevant is it to the hole TM, digital?
I agree that the auto industry is a bad choice to try and reference in this matter, and that is why I made the comment about the cutlery industry being an exception to that.
 
Anyway, if the patent was for a depression, how relevant is it to the hole TM, digital?


First, to backtrack for a moment. I have seen several posts where someone states that once a trademark is issued, that is that. I posted the cancellation of a trademark to show that-

§14 (15 U.S.C. §1064). Cancellation
A petition to cancel a registration of a mark, stating the grounds relied upon, may, upon payment of the prescribed fee, be filed as follows by any person who believes that he is or will be damaged, including as a result of dilution under section 43(c), by the registration of a mark on the principal register established by this Act, or under the Act of March 3, 1881, or the Act of February 20, 1905:

(3) At any time if the registered mark becomes the generic name for the goods or services, or a portion thereof, for which it is registered, or is functional, or has been abandoned, or its registration was obtained fraudulently or contrary to the provisions of section 4 or of subsection (a), (b), or (c) of section 2 for a registration under this Act, or contrary to similar prohibitory provisions of such said prior Acts for a registration under such Acts, or if the registered mark is being used by, or with the permission of, the registrant so as to misrepresent the source of the goods or services on or in connection with which the mark is used.


Big ones are when a TM becomes generic (Kleenex, Xerox) or if the subject of the TM is functional. We are talking functional here.


Next, Doctrine of Equivalents-
Doctrine of Equivalents Basics

A party who fails to prove literal infringement claim may prove infringement under the doctrine of equivalents when the differences between the claimed invention and the accused device are insubstantial. Pall Corp. v. Micron Separations, Inc., 66 F.3d 1211, 1218 (Fed.Cir.1995), cert. denied, --- U.S. ----, 117 S.Ct. 1243, 137 L.Ed.2d 326 (1997). The Supreme Court has emphasized that the focus of the analysis under this doctrine must be on each separate element of the invention, rather than on the invention as a whole. Warner-Jenkinson Co., Inc. v. Hilton Davis Chem. Co., 520 U.S. 17, 117 S.Ct. 1040, 137 L.Ed.2d 146 (1997). The Court stated:

Each element contained in a patent claim is deemed material to defining the scope of the patented invention, and thus the doctrine must be applied to individual elements of the claim, not to the invention as a whole. It is important to ensure that the application of the doctrine, even as to an individual element, is not allowed such broad play as to effectively eliminate that element in its entirety.



Spyderco patent-

What is claimed is:

1. A pocket knife comprising the combination of:

a handle having opposite, elongated side portions separated by a spacer defining a cavity opening from one side of said handle;

a blade pivotally carried on said handle operable between alternate positions of being stored in said cavity or being open in an operative position as an extension of said handle;

latch means resiliently biasing said blade in either of its stored or operative positions;

said blade having an enlarged portion substantially protruding from its upper top edge and outwardly projecting through said handle cavity opening beyond said handle one side so as to provide an exposed lobe;

said blade enlarged portion outwardly extending from said handle one side when said blade is in its stored position available for engagement by the flesh of the thumb of the user for actuating said blade into its operative position while said handle is held in the same hand of the user;

said enlarged portion on said blade is provided with a lateral facing depression adapted to be physically engaged by the flesh of the user's thumb to effect single-handed pivoting of said blade into its operative position.
2. The invention as defined in claim 1 wherein:

said latch means includes a pivotal lever having a latch at one end selectively engagable with a corresponding notch provided in said blade to releasably retain said blade in said operative position.

3. The invention as defined in claim 2 including:

a leaf spring having one end secured to said handle and projecting into said cavity so that its opposite end bears against the end of said lever opposite to its end carrying said latch.

4. The invention as defined in claim 1 including:

a clip fixed at one of its ends to said handle and disposed in spaced apart relationship so as to slidably receive a portion of a supporting member such as the edge of a pocket, belt or the like.

5. The invention as defined in claim 1 wherein:

said blade further includes a cutting edge along its lower or underside and a second cutting edge along its upper or top edge extending between the tip thereof and said enlarged portion.



Ok, so the doctrine of equivalents means that, in a claim for infringement, if the offending invention does not literally infringe, then if the differences are not substantial, then there is still infringement. So, here if someone if trying to build the case for a functionality cancellation, one could argue that the differences between a depression and a hole are so insubstantial that they are both covered under the patent.


More later.
 
Here is the official response I got from Benchmade. You don't have to speculate anymore. They even mention that they posted it in a forum but I couldn't find it in this thread. Maybe it's buried in here somewhere or maybe they mean another forum. That as it may be, here is the response:

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Thanks for contacting Benchmade.

As our moderator posted in the forum, our official comment is that "Benchmade and Spyderco have reached an agreement, the terms of which are confidential."

We sincerely appreciate your continued support of Benchmade products, please do not hesitate to contact us with any other questions or concerns - we will do our best to answer them for you!
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That's it....short but to the point.
 
Ok, so the doctrine of equivalents means that, in a claim for infringement, if the offending invention does not literally infringe, then if the differences are not substantial, then there is still infringement. So, here if someone if trying to build the case for a functionality cancellation, one could argue that the differences between a depression and a hole are so insubstantial that they are both covered under the patent.


More later.

Ok. I was wondering how Spyderco was able to keep others from using round opening holes on their knives if the patent only stated depressions. If this was their argument, then it would apply to their TM as well. Meaning that the round hole is naturally just as functional on their knives as it would have been on a competitor's during the life of the patent.

Does anyone know if Boye licensed the opening device on his lockbacks fromSpyderco? His old Prophet model had an oval depression, the Prophet Companion had a small through hole in the middle of the depression, plus he had other designs in these depression openers-eagle wing, sunburst, whale, maybe more. Or what about Gerber and the EZ out, their oblong hole should be no functionally different from a 'depression' as a round hole. I don't know if Boye was making his lockbacks during the Spyderco patent, but I remember that a production prototype of the EZ out was in the 1996 movie The Fan.
 
Here is the official response I got from Benchmade. You don't have to speculate anymore. They even mention that they posted it in a forum but I couldn't find it in this thread. Maybe it's buried in here somewhere or maybe they mean another forum. That as it may be, here is the response:

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Thanks for contacting Benchmade.

As our moderator posted in the forum, our official comment is that "Benchmade and Spyderco have reached an agreement, the terms of which are confidential."

We sincerely appreciate your continued support of Benchmade products, please do not hesitate to contact us with any other questions or concerns - we will do our best to answer them for you!
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That's it....short but to the point.



Check out page 9 on this thread. We covered the BM response a while back.
 
Ok. I was wondering how Spyderco was able to keep others from using round opening holes on their knives if the patent only stated depressions. If this was their argument, then it would apply to their TM as well. Meaning that the round hole is naturally just as functional on their knives as it would have been on a competitor's during the life of the patent.


Exactly,

so now for cancellation-

1202.02(a)(iv) Burden of Proof in Functionality Determinations
The examining attorney must establish a prima facie case that the trade dress sought to be registered is functional. The burden then shifts to the applicant to present sufficient evidence to rebut the examining attorney's prima facie case of functionality. In re R.M. Smith, Inc., 734 F.2d 1482, 222 USPQ 1, 3 (Fed. Cir. 1984); In re Bio-Medicus Inc., 31 USPQ2d 1254, 1257 n.5 (TTAB 1993).

The functionality determination is a question of fact, and depends on the totality of the evidence presented in each particular case. Valu Engineering, Inc. v. Rexnord Corp., 278 F.3d 1268, 61 USPQ2d 1422 (Fed. Cir. 2002); In re Caterpillar Inc., 43 USPQ2d 1335, 1339 (TTAB 1997).

If the trade dress sought to be registered as a mark is the subject of a utility patent that discloses the feature's utilitarian advantages, then the applicant bears an especially "heavy burden of overcoming the strong evidentiary inference of functionality." TrafFix Devices, Inc. v. Marketing Displays, Inc., 532 U.S. 23, 58 USPQ2d 1001, 1005 (2001). See TMEP §1202.02(a)(v).

1202.02(a)(v) Evidence and Considerations Regarding Functionality Determinations
Trade dress is functional if it is essential to the use or purpose of a product or if it affects the cost or quality of the product. Inwood Laboratories, Inc. v. Ives Laboratories, Inc., 456 U.S. 844, 850, 214 USPQ 1, 4 n. 10 (1982).

In TrafFix Devices, Inc. v. Marketing Displays, Inc., 532 U.S. 23, 58 USPQ2d 1001, 1005 (2001), the Supreme Court resolved a circuit split regarding the proper weight to be afforded a utility patent in the functionality determination, stating:

A utility patent is strong evidence that the features claimed therein are functional. If trade dress protection is sought for those features the strong evidence of functionality based on the previous patent adds great weight to the statutory presumption that features are deemed functional until proved otherwise by the party seeking trade dress protection. Where the expired patent claimed the features in question, one who seeks to establish trade dress protection must carry the heavy burden of showing that the feature is not functional, for instance by showing that it is merely an ornamental, incidental, or arbitrary aspect of the device.

See also In re Bose Corp., 772 F.2d 866, 227 USPQ 1 (Fed. Cir. 1985); In re Visual Communications Co., Inc., 51 USPQ2d 1141 (TTAB 1999); In re Edward Ski Products, Inc., 49 USPQ2d 2001 (TTAB 1999); In re Caterpillar Inc., 43 USPQ2d 1335 (TTAB 1997).


Therefore, in those instances where the examining attorney is presented with facts similar to those in TrafFix - i.e., where there is a utility patent establishing the utilitarian nature of the product design at issue - the examining attorney may properly issue a final functionality refusal based primarily on the utility patent.

In relevant cases, the examining attorney should ask the applicant to provide copies of any patent(s) or any pending or abandoned patent application(s). See Valu Engineering, Inc. v. Rexnord Corp., 278 F.3d 1268, 61 USPQ2d 1422, 1429 (Fed. Cir. 2002) ("We agree with the Board that an abandoned patent application should be considered under the first Morton-Norwich factor, because an applied-for utility patent that never issued has evidentiary significance for the statements and claims made in the patent application concerning the utilitarian advantages, just as an issued patent has evidentiary significance.").

It is important to read the patent to determine whether the patent actually claims the features presented in the proposed mark. If it does not, or if the features are referenced in the patent, but only as arbitrary or incidental features, then the probative value of the patent as evidence of functionality is substantially diminished or negated entirely. TrafFix, 532 U.S. at 34, 58 USPQ2d at 1007 (where a manufacturer seeks to protect arbitrary, incidental or ornamental aspects or features of a product found in the patent claims, such as arbitrary curves in the legs or an ornamental pattern painted on the springs, functionality will not be established if the manufacturer can prove that those aspects do not serve a purpose within the terms of utility patent); see also Black & Decker Inc. v. Hoover Service Ctr., 886 F.2d 1285, 12 USPQ2d 1250 (Fed. Cir. 1989); In re Zippo Mfg. Co., 50 USPQ2d 1852 (TTAB 1999); In re Weber-Stephen Products Co., 3 USPQ2d 1659 (TTAB 1987).

Statements regarding utilitarian advantages of the design made in the course of the prosecution of the patent application can be very strong evidence of functionality. TrafFix, 532 U.S. at 32, 58 USPQ2d at 1006 ("These statements [regarding specific functional advantages of the product design] made in the patent applications and in the course of procuring the patents demonstrate the functionality of the design. MDI does not assert that any of these representations are mistaken or inaccurate, and this is further strong evidence of the functionality of the dual-spring design.").

Where a utility patent claims more than what is sought to be registered, this fact does not establish the nonfunctionality of the product design if the patent shows that the part claimed as a trademark is an essential or integral part of the invention and has utilitarian advantages. Cf. TrafFix, 532 U.S. at 31, 58 USPQ2d at 1006.

The fact that the proposed mark is not the subject of a utility patent does not establish that the product feature is nonfunctional. TrafFix, 532 U.S. at 31, 58 USPQ2d at 1006; In re Gibson Guitar Corp., 61 USPQ2d 1948, 1950 n. 3, (TTAB 2001). If the patent does not disclose utilitarian advantages of the design features at issue, or if no utility patent/application is of record, the evidence normally involves consideration of one or more of the other factors commonly known as the "Morton-Norwich factors:"

(1) the existence of a utility patent that discloses the utilitarian advantages of the design sought to be registered;

(2) advertising by the applicant that touts the utilitarian advantages of the design;

(3) facts pertaining to the availability of alternative designs; and

(4) facts pertaining to whether the design results from a comparatively simple or inexpensive method of manufacture.

In re Morton-Norwich Products, Inc., 671 F.2d 1332, 213 USPQ 9, 15-16 (C.C.P.A. 1982).


More to come
 
Furthermore,

1202.02(a)(v)(A) Advertising, Promotional or Explanatory Material in Functionality Determinations
The examining attorney should examine the specimens of record, and should also ask an applicant to provide any available advertising, promotional or explanatory material concerning the goods/services, particularly any material specifically related to the features embodied in the proposed mark. The examining attorney should also check to see if the applicant has a website on which the product is advertised or described.

The applicant's own advertising touting the utilitarian aspects of its design is often strong evidence supporting a functionality refusal. See, e.g., In re Gibson Guitar Corp., 61 USPQ2d 1948 (TTAB 2001); M-5 Steel Mfg., Inc. v. O'Hagin's Inc., 61 USPQ2d 1086 (TTAB 2001); In re Visual Communications Co., Inc., 51 USPQ2d 1141 (TTAB 1999); In re Edward Ski Products, Inc., 49 USPQ2d 2001 (TTAB 1999); In re Caterpillar Inc., 43 USPQ2d 1335 (TTAB 1997); In re Bio-Medicus Inc., 31 USPQ2d 1254 (TTAB 1993); In re Witco Corp., 14 USPQ2d 1557 (TTAB 1989).

An applicant will often assert that statements in its promotional materials touting the utilitarian advantages of the product feature are mere "puffery" and thus entitled to little weight in the functionality analysis. However, where the advertising statements clearly emphasize specific utilitarian features of the design claimed as a mark, the Board will reject such assertions of "puffing." See, e.g., In re Gibson Guitar Corp., supra; Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. v. Interco Tire Corp., 49 USPQ2d 1705, 1716-17 (TTAB 1998); In re Bio-Medicus Inc., 31 USPQ2d 1254, 1260 (TTAB 1993); In re Witco Corp., 14 USPQ2d 1557, 1559-61 (TTAB 1989).

In Gibson Guitar, the Board found the design of a guitar body to be functional, noting that applicant's literature clearly indicated that the shape of applicant's guitar produced a better musical sound. Applicant's advertisements stated that "This unique body shape creates a sound which is much more balanced and less 'muddy' than other ordinary dreadnought acoustics." 61 USPQ2d at 1951.




From Spyderco's website:

Spyderco Trademark Round Hole

The Spyderco Trademark Round Hole is the industry symbol of quality. It is our most recognizable feature and facilitates easy opening and closing of our knives with one hand. The hole offers convenient access and maximum control while opening as well as accommodating large, small and gloved hands. The position of the hole in the blade and the fact that it is round allow for a continuous opening motion. The thumb rests against the hole at a comfortable distance from the palm permitting easy rotation from the pivot point.

To open the knife using the hole, place the knife in your open hand at the base of your fingers and grasp the clip side of the handle with the tips of your fingers. Rest the pad of your thumb in the hole, then gently and smoothly slide the blade away from the handle (see below). When a solid click is heard, the knife is locked in the open position (note that the blade should always be locked securely in the full open position before use).




So that is what one could use to argue against the validity of the trademark. The functionality doctrine was codified after the trademark was issued.
 
From Spyderco's website:

Spyderco Trademark Round Hole

The Spyderco Trademark Round Hole is the industry symbol of quality. It is our most recognizable feature and facilitates easy opening and closing of our knives with one hand. The hole offers convenient access and maximum control while opening as well as accommodating large, small and gloved hands. The position of the hole in the blade and the fact that it is round allow for a continuous opening motion. The thumb rests against the hole at a comfortable distance from the palm permitting easy rotation from the pivot point.

To open the knife using the hole, place the knife in your open hand at the base of your fingers and grasp the clip side of the handle with the tips of your fingers. Rest the pad of your thumb in the hole, then gently and smoothly slide the blade away from the handle (see below). When a solid click is heard, the knife is locked in the open position (note that the blade should always be locked securely in the full open position before use).




So that is what one could use to argue against the validity of the trademark. The functionality doctrine was codified after the trademark was issued.

I didn't realize Spyderco themselves made it so clear cut. Asking why the TM isn't used on fixed blades, why the 'round hole' isn't a different size, or in a different location on any of the folders; none of that is necessary when they so obviously state the functionality of the hole.

I think the reason the agreement between BM and Spyderco is confidential is because it is that which has been speculated here-BM intimated to Spyderco their ability to invalidate the TM, and agreed to not mention this publicly as long as Spyderco makes no complaints against models like the Vex. Of course, if this if true, they could only do this for so many knives and for a certain period of time before questions began to surface.

Either way, I still don't care about the hole itself. I look to Spyderco for current innovations, not something patented two dozen years ago.
 
the title still says benchmade stole...

its not being changed,,yet a statement was made from benchmade saying an agreement was made,,

so i ask again, what was stolen? did spyderco say something was stolen? no some formite did and want to stir the pot,,,

this is pure slander and should be changed..we can debate it until blue in the face..

if spyderco hasn't claimed anything stolen, and benchmade says they have an agreement,,then the post is a complete lie,,and should be taken down or at least changed..

if i started a thread claiming sog stole the axis lock, or spyderco copied a design, i'd have to prove it or my thread would be locked or changed,,,,but i guess anti benchmade threads are ok as it fits certain agendas...

someone should tell benchmade that posts are being made calling them thieves
 
well I agree that this thread should be locked or deleted entirely...I don't know about this forum being anti-benchmade or pro-spyderco but maybe it will take a thread saying somethign bad about Benchmade to find out? See if it lasts as long as this one did...? If the forum is pro-spyderco, all that means is there are more people here who like spyderco...can't change that...and there is nothing wrong with that either...
 
if i started a thread claiming sog stole the axis lock, or spyderco copied a design, i'd have to prove it or my thread would be locked or changed,,,,but i guess anti benchmade threads are ok as it fits certain agendas...

:rolleyes: Obviously you're not familiar with moderation policy on this forum, or with concepts like freedom of speech, your right to make up your own mind, etc. If you're convinced the moderators are hypocrites why don't you start a thread claiming sog stole the axis lock and spyderco copied a design and see what happens.
 
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