Benchmade VS. Spyderco: issue solved

the manix has a wider profile I want the thinness of the delica with the smooth opening/closing of a mini grip
 
Just what the knife world needs, another red-headed freckle faced one armed over priced step child of a knife. Can you say "Spyker"? :barf:
 
bh49 said:
I do not see anything that Spyderco can take from BM to improve performance of their knives.
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I can think of a few in my opinion at the risk of catching flak.

1. Blade replacement programs. (replace any benchmade blade for $25 (uncoated) or $35 (coated). Modding friendly Benchmade warranty (I've sent about 6 heavily modified knives, never once had issues just call ahead).
2. Excellent R&D in blade grinding which makes accurate grind lines pretty much every time, versus crooked.
3. Geometries which make excellent performance and durability compromises. For example PM2 tip is rather weak due to the slightly aggressive distal taper while something like the Griptilian will slice just as a well as a Paramilitary 2, and penetrate just as well but would also be considerably stronger. The tip difference is about .03mm~, and boy it makes a huge difference.
4. So far the Axis lock has been better in use than the Manix 2's CBBG as it stands without modifications. Seems to withstand far more shock without shifting (design doesn't call for tight tolerances).
5. Fit and finish seems to be a bit better with Benchmade over all when comparing USA to USA knives.
 
amflud said:
Its my opinion that only Benchmade would benefit. However, I do like Benchmade designs and the fact that most are US made.
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I think it would get Spyderco a lot of publicity.

Speaking personally, a lot more people recognize benchmade than spyderco.
 
So what exactly can they do together that they are not able to complete on their own?
Well, I have got BM Onslaught already: both regular and mini. And I have got my BM AFCK. And I can buy Bone Collector whenever I like (somehow not on the top of my list so far...)
Seriously, the only new thing coming from that collaboration would be the trademark combination: and I do not collect trademarks, so can not actually judge on the value.
 
Styg said:
I think it would get Spyderco a lot of publicity.

Speaking personally, a lot more people recognize benchmade than spyderco.
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That's true, but I was I was referring to bh49's comment on Spyderco's knife performance not benefiting from a collaboration.
 
From the looks of other Spyderco Collabs (Spykers, Lionspy) they basically just take an existing platform from who they are collaborating with, add a spyderhole and some minor other adjustments.

I don't think it would look much different than any other Benchmade with a thumb opening hole.
 
This basically just sounds like a Manix. Axis-like lock, 154cm blade, hollow ground.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I don't know about that happening after BM helped themselves to the opening hole without asking first.
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Of which Sal himself said an agreement had been made. Apparently Spyderco was fine with it and agreed to Benchmade using their trademark without giving credit.
If it was really an issue, they should have protected their trademark not just tossed it aside as a bargaining chip.

Styg said:
I think it would get Spyderco a lot of publicity.

Speaking personally, a lot more people recognize benchmade than spyderco.
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In Texas this is true. So far not one person has recognized a Spyderco. Only one person recognized the brand but didn't know they made knives.
Quite a few know Benchmade, Kershaw, SOG, Gerber, Cold Steel, and Buck though.
 
I can't imagine any Spyderco design going anywhere but down with a BM addition.

Unless you really wanted to see an axis lock on a popular spyderco model, I guess.
 
Luis G. said:
In Texas this is true. So far not one person has recognized a Spyderco. Only one person recognized the brand but didn't know they made knives.
Quite a few know Benchmade, Kershaw, SOG, Gerber, Cold Steel, and Buck though.
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interesting. I would have thought BM and Spyderco to be known about the same by non knife nuts. Never thought of one as more known (besides Spydercos being very easy to spot in TV and Movies with their unique appearances.) Most people obviously recognize the other ones you named from my experience, but if they knew BM they also knew Spyderco. Then again, I've met very few people who knew either.
 
goodeyesniper said:
interesting. I would have thought BM and Spyderco to be known about the same by non knife nuts. Never thought of one as more known (besides Spydercos being very easy to spot in TV and Movies with their unique appearances.) Most people obviously recognize the other ones you named from my experience, but if they knew BM they also knew Spyderco. Then again, I've met very few people who knew either.
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here in ID, spyderco might as well be a myth of a knife company. very few people own them here and the ones who dont talk about them like big foot and the jackalope, as from what i've encountered.

Benchmade is a bit more common around here but few own them...... oddly enough i was talking to a guy yesterday who though the benchmade logo was the universal sign for butterfly knives, took 30mins to explain to him what it was
 
goodeyesniper said:
interesting. I would have thought BM and Spyderco to be known about the same by non knife nuts. Never thought of one as more known (besides Spydercos being very easy to spot in TV and Movies with their unique appearances.) Most people obviously recognize the other ones you named from my experience, but if they knew BM they also knew Spyderco. Then again, I've met very few people who knew either.
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Don't ask me why or how or what. This is Texas, there is no why just is.
Benchmade seems to be a little more known than Spyderco over here in Texas (dallas, Houston, a few outdoor parks and nature "reserves" (if you can even call them that, they pale in comparison with places like Arkansas or OK).

Personally I find Benchmade knives themselves to be a little more common as well but still nothing like Gerber/Cold Steel/Buck.
 
amflud said:
If I could find a Spyker I'd be all over it.
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It is pretty good, but performs better when the grind is thinned out quite a bit. I use mine a lot when sailing (works great on rope and the Millie is a bit long for my sailing shorts):


I'd love a Stretch blade in it though. Would be awesome.
 
Luis G. said:
Don't ask me why or how or what. This is Texas, there is no why just is.
Benchmade seems to be a little more known than Spyderco over here in Texas (dallas, Houston, a few outdoor parks and nature "reserves" (if you can even call them that, they pale in comparison with places like Arkansas or OK).

Personally I find Benchmade knives themselves to be a little more common as well but still nothing like Gerber/Cold Steel/Buck.
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I'm not doubting it, my sample size is pretty small and influenced by me EDCing a Spyderco for 6 years or so... I live in California, in an area that can be a bit "yuppy" like, half the people I end up talking to would normally give the "WHY are you carrying a knife??" bit even though they know I worked manual labor.

Then the people who do carry knives I know generally aren't really well off and would rather spend $30 on some S&W from Big 5 than order a $70 Spyderco or other brand online... But they end up knowing Spyderco because they see mine every day, so they still wouldn't recognize BM...
 
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