Best Folder for SD <=6 oz

Comes from asking about a SELF DEFENSE knife in the General Forum. Had the OP asked about a good camp and trail knife to back up his walking stick, I don't think the recommendations would have been much different, but the application is all about what knives are.

I've been on this forum since about 2003, and the one thing I've tried to educate about is the supposed role of knives in self defense. As far as the majority are concerned, there really is none. Asked and discussed.

Other knives that could be selected for camp and trail use run the gamut. I've tried a few dozen over the years as EDC folders or fixed blades, from Buck, CRKT, Benchmade, Spyderco, Swamp Rat, Randall, Strider, Schrade, Kershaw, Victorinox, Leatherman, and Gerber, off the top of my head. All do ok, some better than others. Right now I use a SnG, and a Camp Tramp or Nimravus.

I don't like to play the name game. To me, features count more than brand name. A 3 1/2 inch minimum blade, flat ground, drop point, better grade steel with G10 grips is now my minimum. It took some time to find that floor. Acquisition and experience come slowly, not in the next cool press release. You need sufficient size, clean cutting, utility shaped, durable knives with good grip to do a job. It just turns out that most of the features are in better knives.

A Buck and a Ranger could do as well for many, and leave extra money to go to a range and practice. My thinking is going that way - the local range runs PPC, I believe, and I'd be better off spending my knife money there.

It's not what you own, it's what you can do with it.
 
Do you know what the policy is on OC/pepper spray? Would that fly or is it grouped with firearms on the prohibited list? If you cannot do that a Spyderco Forrester would make me think twice before messing with you. I say this kind of seriously and kind of as a joke. That is a big hunk of steel and you'd be the one that would have to carry it.
 
tirod3 said:
I've been on this forum since about 2003, and the one thing I've tried to educate about is the supposed role of knives in self defense. As far as the majority are concerned, there really is none. Asked and discussed.
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I'm not too big on majority consensus.
The masses have been wrong many, MANY times, including the experts.
Each person must make up their own mind in the end.
I know I have.:)
 
Like what yer having for supper?! :)
I made up my mind on my Ideal folder!! That's about it! :O
 
Well good news, The Governor signed a change to the law to allow CCW handguns in state parks starting mid december (didn't know about this when I started the thread.)

This thread convinced me that 4" of sharp steel is good for a paper cut but not SD. The dog can wait a month when I can bring my Kel-Tec.
 
I've got an LCP - if you already have a Keltec and are used to it, it'll do fine.

As for the majority being wrong a lot, I agree. The majority of folks are clueless about self defense, and quite often get filled with BS about what certain tools can actually accomplish. Kinda like all the guys who insist only the .45 ACP can effectively be a manstopper.

Kinda a moot point when most professional militaries issue some form of .22 or .30 cal rifle. Obviously, they disagreed. They want more standoff distance.

I certainly does pay to keep an open mind about things - which is why I sure don't go with the majority here about knives. I don't see a collective credibility to discuss it, especially when history and tactics have passed knives by - along with CCW laws. An obvious and direct application for the OP here, who says he gets it. Already has one.

Perhaps those with open minds can receive the same enlightenment. Let's not add to the ranks of knife poppers who believe just showing a blade will reduce an antagonist to quivering jelly.

And now, back to chopping concrete and spinewhacking, real knife chores that are done everyday by millions. :D
 
tirod3 said:
Kinda like all the guys who insist only the .45 ACP can effectively be a manstopper.
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Guh, that pisses me off. I love my .45 more than any other gun I have, and I know that it is a powerhouse for a man-stopper. But I have every confidence, that if someone gets hit from my 9mm, they aren't going to put up much of a fight. I once overheard a guy who worked in a gun store tell a customer about how all law enforcement agencies are switching from 9mms to .40s or .45s because 9mm's are not effective man stoppers anymore. That they "bounce" right off body armor. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that man has evolved so much since 9mms started to become used all over the world that they have become impervious to them. The right load of 9mm (Cor-Bon, TAP, Hydra shock) will be plenty to knock someone down, or even out. Yes, 9mm use in the Military should be re-evaluated, because NATO laws only allow the use of ball powder ammo and no hollow points (could be wrong about HPs), and yes there are true stories coming back from overseas about insurgents being hit at close range with two or three rounds of 9mm ball and running away, but as long as LE and Civilians have the use hollow point non-ball powder ammo (and the +Ps), .32, .380, and 9mm will do a fine job of personal protection.

Of course all of this means nothing. Shot placement is EVERYTHING.
 
6 inch cs ti-lite, nothing like a mini-sword to fend off bad guys...

I'd actually recommend bear spray to be honest. It works on people too. Just make sure your upwind of it when your using it.
 
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