Best Production Folder

I think Sebenza is the best choice, if we have enough money, other wise, I like Camillus Dominator, same S30V blade,same Ti handle, same lock item, but more cheaper.
 
Richter said:
Sebenza? Who spends 500 on a folder?

Hell I think Emerson are pricy. My commander is my most expensive purchase.
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I don't understand why, instead of just making your point, which is a valid one, ie. that the Sebenza is relatively expensive, you give up all credibility by taking the price of a Sebenza, ($340) and rounding it up to $500, to make your point more dramatic. :rolleyes:

Obviously a lot of people spend $340 for Sebenzas, which is why CRK stays in business. And yes, people do also spend $500 for some folders, hell, people spend thousands on a folder, what is your point, that anybody who appreciates and buys expensive knives is stupid?

The world is full of choices, lots of things out there to buy, in all price and quality ranges, just because you personally choose to not interest yourself in certain things doesn't mean those who do are dumb, does it?

And Artfully Martial, please give it a rest already, nobody ever said that strong, reliable liner locks don't exist, they do, I have owned several, but, the truth is, I have seen way too many liner locks that were defective to consider them an inherently reliable lock type, and it has been my experience, based on examining hundreds, or even thousands of knives over the years, that liner locks are a difficult lock for makers/companies to get consistently right, sure, of course there are some good ones out there, lots and lots of them, you apparently have a few, that's great, so do I, so do lots of people, but it's like you expect people who have invested a lot more time, have more experience, and tested a lot more knives than you did, to just throw away all of the things they have personally experienced, in favor of your testing which frankly is extremely limited and statistically insignificant when compared to the testing done by some of the guys you keep saying are part of some anti-liner lock (anti-Artfully Martial) conspiracy.

Please don't think that I am supposed to discount what I personally have experienced with liner locks just because you came along and found a few that are reliable, and if I and others choose to give your limited experience less weight than our own, many of them guys I respect who have been testing knives longer than you have been alive, well, it doesn't make me part of a conspiracy, now does it, it just makes me sensible.
 
Richter said:
Sebenza? Who spends 500 on a folder?

Hell I think Emerson are pricy. My commander is my most expensive purchase.
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If you can afford to do it, or treat yourself, or especially if 350 is pennies to you, go ahead and buy it.

My thing is, as long as you are not facing a knife addiction so bad that you are deciding whether to pay the rent or buy that new custom, you should indulge every once and a while.
 
I agree with a lot that you have said here, and I feel just as you do about the lock issue, that is why I only buy liner locks from certain manufacturers. (Guess who)? You should understand though that there are a few people around here who feel they are overqualified to bash other people and their choices in knives and moreover, thier opinion on how much they should spend on a knife. Just ignore it man. If I am stupid for spending $400.00 on a SNG, then I am stupid and happy. I would rather be stupid, with a nice knife, than ignorant with a uneducated opinion.
 
Brand new member. Very well stated MEGALOBYTE. I concur with you on all points. And in my opinion, I'll have to go with Micks Gen 6 SnG... my newest piece in my collection. I just returned from "Over There" and it served me very well. One of the Beefiest folders I have ever carried, but I hardly noticed it until those critical moments when I needed it.
 
I think that Cliff Stamp's review of the small Sebenza took away some of the Seb's luster. Though the question of "What's the best Production Folder?", is impossible to answer without further qualification. Is the $340 Sebenza 3 times as good as a Manix, twice as good as an Combat RRF, or 8.5 times as good as a (walmart) Spyderco Native? All three come in the same steel as the Sebenza, and the RRF is VERY similiar in more ways than just steel. That said, I've never owned or even used a Sebenza, so it should be obvious why it hasn't cast its spell on me yet. My .02 is that a production folder, that can be universally praised as 'best' has yet to be produced, and can never be produced without one heck of a monopoly on folder production... In other news, Microsoft has decided to branch out and make pocket knives... ;)
 
Megalobyte said:
I don't understand why, instead of just making your point, which is a valid one, ie. that the Sebenza is relatively expensive, you give up all credibility by taking the price of a Sebenza, ($340) and rounding it up to $500, to make your point more dramatic. :rolleyes:
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Megalobyte, type in 1sks.com in your browser, then type Sebenza in the search. What is the price of the first 5 knives on that page? it was $590, $485, $430, $535 and $455 for me.

this is what I did, I had never searched on Sebenza before that moment. I could give two craps if somebody wants to spend that kind of cash on a knife i'm just not one of them. I wasn't knocking them or trying to be dramatic.
 
Not to prolong the agony too far, but the prices are $330.00 for a small and $385.00 for a large. The other prices are for inlayed ones and graphic ones.
 
The Sebenza is probably the winner as BEST QUALITY production folder, but the Benchmade 558 Mini RSK gets the nod from me as MOST PRACTICAL folder.

I find it more comfortable to use.
 
sebs are pretty darned good imho.

i also like the spyderco Ti ATR very much, its really the only production folder i carry anymore, cobra hood, S30V, compression lock, all in a very thin package, which feels good in the hand. i really like mine, i have 2 of 'em. when they first came out i thought long and hard about the ATR and the BM 630, couldnt decide which 1 i wanted, like all knifenutz i ended up with both, though i liked the 630s looks the ergos left something to be desired (for me anyway) and i never really carried mine very much, while the ATR has been one of my favs ever since & is carried all the time. a very underappreciated knife imho, ya dont realize how good they really are till ya pack 1 a while. the SS version is good also, but the Ti is the 1 that really rocks imho.
 
Richter said:
Megalobyte, type in 1sks.com in your browser, then type Sebenza in the search. What is the price of the first 5 knives on that page? it was $590, $485, $430, $535 and $455 for me.

this is what I did, I had never searched on Sebenza before that moment. I could give two craps if somebody wants to spend that kind of cash on a knife i'm just not one of them. I wasn't knocking them or trying to be dramatic.
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Well, whenever I order Sebenza's or Mnandi I have to wait 4 months to get them, so someone is buying them. And considering I have to wait that long each time, it would seem that not just some people are buying them, but quite a lot of them.

There are lots of knives from about $150~ that perform in a tight bracket. Fit and Finish or Hype are usually the reasons for the discrepency in price. A BM 520 Presidio is a hell of a well built knife, as is the Manix and a couple of dozen more if you take the time to look around.

This, whats the best knife kind of thread is so loaded that they should be banned as all they ever do is cause trouble. I know the original poster didn't intend to do this but perhaps a sticky is in order?
 
ohmyheckinslc said:
I think that Cliff Stamp's review of the small Sebenza took away some of the Seb's luster. Though the question of "What's the best Production Folder?", is impossible to answer without further qualification. Is the $340 Sebenza 3 times as good as a Manix, twice as good as an Combat RRF, or 8.5 times as good as a (walmart) Spyderco Native? All three come in the same steel as the Sebenza, and the RRF is VERY similiar in more ways than just steel. That said, I've never owned or even used a Sebenza, so it should be obvious why it hasn't cast its spell on me yet. My .02 is that a production folder, that can be universally praised as 'best' has yet to be produced, and can never be produced without one heck of a monopoly on folder production... In other news, Microsoft has decided to branch out and make pocket knives... ;)
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Having handled both, the RRF is nowhere near the knife a Sebbie is, and it shouldn't be expected to be considering its about half its price. It is nice though.:)
 
USAFSP said:
WOW! That Mantis looks SICK!!!! I never heard of them, but I am going to start looking into them. Now to find a dealer. Thanks for sharing the link. Any company with Koji Hara's name in it should make nice stuff.
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They are really great knives! :cool:

I'm also looking for an international dealer, I found only one of these knives in my country, but the price is very high (prices of knives suck in Italy). :(
 
i have seen Rockstead folders demo on last blade show in Paris...
Everybody was amazed !:eek:

They were beating hard the edge on large hard bamboo (15-20 times, doing big marks on the bamboo)... and then cutting some peace of paper like razor with same blade (i have look closely if they were'nt changing knife, or using a portion of blade that was not "beaten" previously...)
They are really impressive and nice ! (but too expensive for me, as far as i remember,, were near 600 euro/700 usd):yawn:
 
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