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Wonderfully carved wood handle on that last 15" AK.

I've always had a craving for carved wood...
Andrew Lim
 
Originally posted by redvenom
Wonderfully carved wood handle on that last 15" AK.

I've always had a craving for carved wood...
Andrew Lim
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Thanks. :D

If you get one you will never stop looking at it, they are that good.:)
 
Hey Ankerson

Is there a great difference in controlability between the 18 and 20 inch Gelbu Special? For self defence purposes you know.

I have read somewhere on this forum that jumping from the 18 inch AK to a 20 inch AK gives you a great increasement in mass. More than one would think from just the 2 inches. Is it the same with the Gelbu?

Would I be able to deliver quicker strikes with a 18 Gelbu than a 20 incher? The 2 inch longer Gelbu won't buy me a lot of extra distance to my attacker anyway, having more speed and manouverability seems smarter.

What do you think? Considering all these things together, is the 18 incher better for self defence?
 
Nice pictures, Ankerson. Now I have several clear pictures of what I want in future. Thanks!
 
Originally posted by Eikerværing
Hey Ankerson


What do you think? Considering all these things together, is the 18 incher better for self defence?
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That would depend on what you can handle.


Yes it is the same with the GS as with the AK.


For me 18" ans 20" feel about the same in the GS and Sirus.
 
Originally posted by Ankerson
That would depend on what you can handle.
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Hard to say. I have no experience with similair blades.

Originally posted by Ankerson

For me 18" ans 20" feel about the same in the GS and Sirus.
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Have you tried a lot of air fencing with them against an imaginary opponent just to see how fast you can go? I mean really trying to do a workout with it and getting warm.
Or are you just speaking out of ordinary use experience? If you just have ordinary use experience then maybe you can't feel the difference.
 



Yes I have, and it really doesn't make that much of a difference to me.

But I have big wrists and large forearms so I am not the best judge on that one.
 
In that case, you are stronger in your arms than me. I don't have any special juice in my arms. I never did any weight lifting or anything, just speed training at my martial arts classes.

Sounds like I have to give the 18 incher a serious thought.

Did you ever try the Kobra 25 inch? How did it feel to you? To me it was too uncontrolable for a one handed quick strike. With one hand only I couldn't make it move quickly and it was a struggle to stop the strike from going too far. Hard on my wrist. If you didn't feel it was too unwieldly then for sure we have a different basis.
 
Originally posted by Eikerværing

Did you ever try the Kobra 25 inch? How did it feel to you? To me it was too uncontrolable for a one handed quick strike. With one hand only I couldn't make it move quickly and it was a struggle to stop the strike from going too far. Hard on my wrist. If you didn't feel it was too unwieldly then for sure we have a different basis.
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Yes I did try it, but I look at it as a tool, not a weapon.

It's one handed and heavier than my Katana.
 
Allright Ankerson.

Thank you very much for all your answers. I appreciate your help very much.

I am going to rest my mind for some time now on the 18 incher I think.
 
Originally posted by Eikerværing
Allright Ankerson.

Thank you very much for all your answers. I appreciate your help very much.

I am going to rest my mind for some time now on the 18 incher I think.
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Eik, you've made the right decision if you're looking at martial arts use. The 18" khuks are faster than the 20" mostly.
I would also consider the 18" Chitlangi. My 20" chitlangi is faster than my GS, but I haven't compared the weight on them.
The 18" Chitlangi should be super fast with its extra fuller making it lighter, unless Sher or another kami gets heavy handed with the amount of spring they make the blade with.
I'm still very impressed with my Chitlangi as it cuts like a much heavier khuk.
I tested it in an area where the brush was very thick and I didn't have much room to swing.
The Chitlangi went through branches like they were not there, my GS wouldn't have developed enough speed in such conditions.
Ask Bill about some of the lighter ones. I'm sure he will be more than glad to help.
 
Originally posted by Yvsa

The Chitlangi went through branches like they were not there, my GS wouldn't have developed enough speed in such conditions.
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Ok, but did you then rely on the speed generated by swinging an almost fully extended arm, or speed generated with your muscle force without swinging it so very far out from you? I wish to have something that I can use without going Conan The Barbarian style swinging.

How strange that your 20 Chitlangi is faster than your Gelbu. There must be some overlap on those models.

Yeah, good suggestion, I could just ask Uncle Bill if he has an 18 Chitlangi on the lighter side. I must admit the fullers in the Chitlangi are as attractive as a nice lady. (well, to a certain extent of course :rolleyes: )

I have to tell you I have also got a keen eye on your Yvsa Cherokee Special. For normal camping though, not for this purpose. The belly on it just looks right. I can feel the good things about it's shape even here across the Atlantic. I don't know what it is good for but it just feels right when looking at it's picture.
 
I think you made the right choice with the 18" for you.

When in doubt get the smaller one because if you get the heavy one and it's too heavy then you can't use it for whar you wanted..:)
 
Yeah, Yvsa and Ankerson. I think the right choice for me has to be an 18 incher.

Anyone know the weight of an 18 GS by the way? Couldn't find it on the shopping site.

Hmmm... looking at an 18 Kobra also... However I fear that I am the right kind of person to end up bending it while chopping. Already did that with my 25 incher even though it was on the heavy side with 906 grams (=32 onces).
 
Originally posted by Eikerværing
Ok, but did you then rely on the speed generated by swinging an almost fully extended arm, or speed generated with your muscle force without swinging it so very far out from you? I wish to have something that I can use without going Conan The Barbarian style swinging.
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Originally posted by Yvsa
I tested it in an area where the brush was very thick and I didn't have much room to swing.
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I have to tell you I have also got a keen eye on your Yvsa Cherokee Special. For normal camping though, not for this purpose. The belly on it just looks right. I can feel the good things about it's shape even here across the Atlantic. I don't know what it is good for but it just feels right when looking at it's picture.
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Thanks.:) It's one helluva knife!!!!;)
 
Yvsa

I must be blind to overlook what you write! This means no more stearing at the screen for today on me.

Good night and thanks!
 
Eik:

I think the 18" Chitlangi is a good idea. Or an 18" Siru.

I did a side-by-side of 3 18" Chits not too long ago. One by Kesar, one by Murali and one by Sher. All were manueverable. The Kesar, with the most distal taper of any khuk I've seen, was "quick as a cat", to quote Bill.

I would prefer these khuks to a GS or Kobra for hiking because the Chit has a more weight-forward design, making it a better general-purpose blade. Also, the GS-s that I've handled had fairly thin edges - something that seems to be typical of the design.

The Siru is similar in weight-distribution to the Chit, but without the sexy fullers and fancy handle. But, definitely a great all-rounder.

S.
 
Originally posted by spence
the most distal taper
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What is that?

Originally posted by spence

I would prefer these khuks to a GS or Kobra for hiking because the Chit has a more weight-forward design, making it a better general-purpose blade. Also, the GS-s that I've handled had fairly thin edges - something that seems to be typical of the design.
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Ok, but I would prefer it to be on the weapon side. I would guess that not so very weight forward would be better then. Or then again perhaps not, what do I know? Weight forward sounds slower, but with more power in the hits. Slower is bad for a weapon.

Originally posted by spence

sexy fullers and fancy handle
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Yes yes!!!


So to sum this up now I have had experienced khukuri owners advicing me a GS, a Chitlangi and some words for a Siru. But I know for sure that it has to be 18 inches. Hmm... maybe I should jump on an airplane and go to Uncle Bill's place just to test them all out.

More thinking.
 
A blade with a distal taper gets narrower (or increasingly thin) as you move from the handle to the point. Basically, this puts the center of gravity back towards your hand - making the blade more manueverable.

I'd still go with the 18" Chit or Siru over a Kobra or GS of the same length. I have an 18" Kobra by Kumar that I'm quite fond of. It's acutally heavier than my 18" Sirupati, but lacks the latter's chopping power because of its more balance-neutral design. Still, the differences in speed between my 18" Kobra and the aforementioned Kesar Chitlangi would be negligable, IMO.

If you want a pure fighter, Eik, the Kobra is, in theory, the most agile. But, how many folks are you going to need to whack versus how many saplings/limbs/vines, etc. are you going to have a need to chop over the years? The Chit or the Siru can do the second very well, on a routine basis, and the first with ease should it ever come to it.

S.
 
Here are the weight ranges I've seen for the Khuks you're interested in:
18in Siru 18-24ounce
18in GS 18-24ounce
18in Chit 19-27ounce

20in Siru 22-32ounce
21in GS 24-32ounce
21in Chit 25-35

So generally Sirus and GS are similar weights with Chits being 2 or 3 ounces heavier.
 
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