Big burly solid pins...

Tennessee. Just spellin it how we tawk.!!
Dad gum it,, i wuz close to it. Whatini?
Pheww!!! Nother year no NMFBM.
 
Why embarrassed? Its how we tawk and iam triyin to win the NMFBM.!
They said Pins or Tubes. Pins or Tubes!!
I said Hammer Lock modified. Pin in a tube.
Hupp (hands throwed in the air) iam the winner.!!
 
I thought the reason for tubes was a simple one.

Pins could break leaving you with a damaged and possible un-usable knife.
With fasteners, they will bend before breaking, leaving you with a usable knife. Very important if your way out, and can't get to another knife at the time.
 
TewlMakr said:
Jerry.. Just use a Hammer Lock set up.Have a solid pin inside of a tube.. HA HA!!!
There ya go.. Pins and tubes done..
Now,, For that little tip i would like the NMFBM.
Frosted with Black Paper.
Hey, iam a givin guy!!! HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hadn't thought about that before, sounds easy enough.
I think I'll actually do that.

Now I just need more Busse's to experiment with.:D
 
Ken44 said:
I thought the reason for tubes was a simple one.

Pins could break leaving you with a damaged and possible un-usable knife.
With fasteners, they will bend before breaking, leaving you with a usable knife. Very important if your way out, and can't get to another knife at the time.
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I had not thought about it that way. Makes sense though.
 
Joshua J. said:
Why don't Busse's have 'em?

Hopefully Jerry can answer, but it's always kind of confused me as to why they would stick with the hollow tubes that can potentially get knocked loose while batoning.
Considering the toughness of the knives I would expect something more along the lines of a 1/2" steel plug. I realize the tube pin system probably makes handle assembly a breeze, but it would be cool to have solid pins to add a little more assurance that the handle isn't going to go wobbly after a bad stroke with the baton.
If solid pins wouldn't work with the current system, maybe just doubling the tube wall thickness would?

Anyone else feel the same way? Or maybe you have beat the crap out of your tube pin handle and it's walked away laughing.
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From what I've read I have reason to believe the the handles are covered by lifetime warranty so it's not exactly a problem if the slabs get smashed off!
 
resinguy said:
Interesting. Hadn't heard that before. Wonder exactly how that works?
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AFAIK, It's been a practice with custom makers with hidden tangs forever.

Basically, the top part of the pin is "peened" with a punch and hammer to flare the top of the pin so that it actually applies force to hold the slabs on similar to the tube fastener. Usually, you see the dimples etc in the pin. THe ones Busse did are flat so I guess that got sanded off when the scales where shaped.
 
knife hunter said:
AFAIK, It's been a practice with custom makers with hidden tangs forever.

Basically, the top part of the pin is "peened" with a punch and hammer to flare the top of the pin so that it actually applies force to hold the slabs on similar to the tube fastener. Usually, you see the dimples etc in the pin. THe ones Busse did are flat so I guess that got sanded off when the scales where shaped.
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I think you also have a tight fit with the inner tube (think male and female socket). They don't fit together without actually hammering them together. Makes for a very tight fit inside, and outside.

















:thumbup:

There, enough talk about male/female tubes and rods and peening by hand with hammering and banging, and tight fits............any more of this and I will get an infraction, this is after all a family forum.
 
tell em Big Man;) Keep em straight!

Although, its not that we dont like that kinda stuff. :D

The good lord said, " Everything in moderation."

THere's just a lot of professionals here participating, and having that inadvertently pop up on screen is potentially a big problem with either the Boss or the wife:cool:

There's a time and place for everything, but this definitely aint the place for pics.

Gentle Enuendo's done properly can be laughed at, or ignored without causing too much trouble IMHO.:thumbup:

but this aint my house and I dont make the rules. I just make sure that I dont make the list........ again.
 
If I remember correctly the tubes are flared under 10,000 pounds of pressure assuring a tight fit between the scale and the steel.
 
screws look like shit, like a homemade job.

pins look nice but are a time-consuming PITA to repair.

tubes win.

/end

;)
 
knife hunter said:
tell em Big Man;) Keep em straight!

Although, its not that we dont like that kinda stuff. :D

The good lord said, " Everything in moderation."

THere's just a lot of professionals here participating, and having that inadvertently pop up on screen is potentially a big problem with either the Boss or the wife:cool:

There's a time and place for everything, but this definitely aint the place for pics.

Gentle Enuendo's done properly can be laughed at, or ignored without causing too much trouble IMHO.:thumbup:

but this aint my house and I dont make the rules. I just make sure that I dont make the list........ again.
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Especially Moderation ;)
 
I have a personal preference for the old SHBM screw pins/bolts .... whatever they are.

I like to be able to disassemble a knife and clean it properly. The Japanese got this right about a thousand years ago .... all Samauri swords and knives could have handles replaced either for differing grip size preferences and to enable the blade to be cleaned and looked after properly. A simple bamboo pin worked for them and the cuts used with their weapons are still the most punishing and hard to replicate today. That is why they still have blades 1000 years old .... and our examples rusted .... usually under the tang and handle join.

Once again I feel Jerry had it right and did his best work earlier on in his career .... a SHBM with ASM edge and screw bolt head pins is still for me the best of his knives.
 
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