BK2+ Design

Here it is with fine jimping. As a side note, this isn't exactly to scale, as far as blade length goes. The idea was to keep the edge the same length as the BK2, but extend the heel to add the choil. The BK2 blade length is 5 1/4 inches, so say add 3/4 to 1 inch for the choil. Blade length goes to 6, to 6 1/4 inches long. Besides having the choil and jimping for control, with the longer blade length, you would get more leverage for chopping, yet about the same length for batoning. Also, since the choil takes width out of the blade, one would think it would be weaker than not having the choil. Perhaps blade thickness should increase as well, from a 1/4 to 5/16? Just a thought.

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A shorty would be cool as well. I remember seeing something like this in another thread:

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It would be a beast. The choil and jimping make it not just a long 2, but a completely new model with it's own character. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
 
I think a fair compromise would be to elongate the blade a bit, and then the area where you would want your choil to be to be about half as long as you want your choil. Then it is a best of both worlds, if people want a choil they could add it, but for those that don't, they wouldn't have to. I dig the jimping though.
 
DerekH said:
I think a fair compromise would be to elongate the blade a bit, and then the area where you would want your choil to be to be about half as long as you want your choil. Then it is a best of both worlds, if people want a choil they could add it, but for those that don't, they wouldn't have to. I dig the jimping though.
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Well, that would be a good compromise. Either that, or manufacture one with, and one without. Not sure what the cost factor would be though.

Here's another I did, with grip added. I should have taken my time a bit more, but it gives the general idea:

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I'd like to see a longer BK2. Maybe an inch or two longer (who wouldn't want another inch or two more? ;)) ok ok bad joke. Seriously though the BK2 is a great knife. Sometimes when I'm batoning though it comes up a bit short. Maybe a BK7 in .25 inch? Either way I'd get it. I'm a Becker knife addict or as some people would say a knife slut :P. Nice rendering though. Seems like a shorter or longer one would be great. Can't lose on an already great design.
 
That's how I feel as well. To me, there's no better blade design than the BK2. It's practically a one stop shop. I am going to get a BK14 here in the near future for smaller tasks, but the BK2 will be my main knife.
 
Don't mean to bump my own thread, but out of curiosity, does Ethan ever check out other people's ideas?
 
I like the Shorty. The longer one w/ the choil, not so much. How would you do this w/o seriously comprimising the handle feel. The small jimping I like.
 
Yeah, the shorty is cool. Not sure what you mean about compromising the handle feel. I held my BK2 in my hand, to see what a choil would be like, before designing this. It's actually quite comfortable holding the knife in such a manner. Hand forward on the grip feels great, if there were a choil, like so:

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I would buy at least one and maybe two (one for my pack) cause I really like what you have come up with. Now twist there arm a bit to "just do it and most would buy it".!
 
ideas are great things... many people over the years have dropped some fine ideas down.

however, i don't know if any y'all have ever worked with legal properties, in particular, a brand marque, and a engineer/code, designer writer, maker or anyone who's livelihood comes from ideas... yes? no?

generally, from a legal standpoint, you can send them ideas all day long. they cannot, as a rule, EVER, acknowledge that you did so. not without much hassle and grief down the road.

why? let's say they have in mind for a 50% longer 3/8 thick BK2 battleaxe, and they go ahead and make it, sell it, and it thrives, and makes a LOT of money. yahoo right? well, what if 6 months down the road, someone complains and says "hey, that's my design and they stole it from me! i have proof, here's the dated forum post! here's everyone at KaBar sayiing 'dats cool'"...

in fact, they can't even acknowledge that they have ever been exposed to it. in the software world, we call ideas like that as being tainted. it takes an extra bit of effort to timeDate your work to make sure that people can't claim it as their own. not saying anyone HERE would do that, but there you go. it does happen, all the time.

now, you have to imagine, that in some regards, most of the common ideas for changing the knives has been thought of, yah? even certain designs, variants, and types. doesn't take a stretch to go "well, i got 15ish basic design patterns here, let's whip out the old BOOK OF HISTORICAL KNIFE SHAPES" and see what i can sketch up that's new"... many influences, all of which have to be accounted for.

then again, i could be full of it :)

keep your ideas flowing. perhaps you'll go out and make something yourself, but i would have to expect, that in this area at least, you cannot ever expect anything whatsoever from The Powers That Be. imho, they just can't do it.
 
You make very valid points, to be sure. If someone ever did use this idea, I would just want one, that's all, lol. I wish I had the equipment to make my own. Know how is easy these days, with the internet. Of course, it still takes a lot of practice.
 
Is that saw toothed on the spine, or is it aliasing, lol. :D
 
Bladite said:
ideas are great things... many people over the years have dropped some fine ideas down....... imho, they just can't do it.
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You bring up some excellent points Bladite. I think of these as suggestions that are free, suggestion for things we would love the opportunity to buy. In today's society of litigation many problems arise. If only there were a stipulation for intelectual property as they have and schools for being the property of the school. Maybe there could be a thread of ideas that are given freely to the manufacturer that we could move our "wanted items." Then we sign a release giving them the right to produce/modify/discard our idea. If they like and use the idea they give us 2 of them, Heck we only wanted an opportunity to buy them.

The other option would be to quit posting what we want, and delete all the old posts of the idea's we have given in hopes of production someday.

I vote for the idea sharing(sign a release)thread.
 
That's what I would do, just sign a release. That, and of course make sure I got one. Not too much to ask, I wouldn't think.
 
Crap. I wanted one. I hate it when people get all "sensible" and "practical".
 
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