Blade tip exposed out of handle issue Spyderco models ?!

[BP Green]

Perhaps Alex should just send it back then if he is not happy with either the QC or design. *shrug*

I have no knight in this melee, as I am not a Spyderco guy. Don’t own even one. But I did see that video a while back and wondered if this was a real issue myself.

Having said that, the first thing that came to my mind was that if it was an issue, I’d bet you could simply return it to the company and they would either replace or re-blade the knife for you.

While I may not be a Spyderco guy myself, I have been around this hobby long enough to know that they are a good, solid company. They wouldn’t have the fan base they do if they weren’t.

 

[DocJD]

I recently saw a video on youtube from OUTDOOR55 about an issue that the owner of the channel has with several Spyderco designs.

After several reprofilings he finds the tip of the blade peeping out of the handle when the blade is closed.
What is your opinion / experience? Does this apply to a Native 5 model as well?

"Already done for " !!!! ? , not at all . Pretty easily fixed in fact .

Instead of just showing how to fix it , video guy attacks Spyderco design .

Not helpful to his viewers at all . Just trying to get those views / clicks , I guess . Basic design flaw for youtube creators is bogus drama production .

 

[StrangeDaze]

Yup. Here's some images of the Manix I was referring to:

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I can't find the video where he fixed it, but here's the source of the photos:

And it's a problem of his own making.

I didn’t know spyderco came out with a wharncliffe version of the manix.

I have had spyderco knives that i enjoyed but am not a fan by and large, mostly to do with quality control and customer service. Having said that, this doesn’t seem to be an issue that will happen to most people, as is portrayed in the video apparently (i admittedly did not watch it)

 

[WhoMe?]

I have no knight in this melee, as I am not a Spyderco guy. Don’t own even one. But I did see that video a while back and wondered if this was a real issue myself.

Having said that, the first thing that came to my mind was that if it was an issue, I’d bet you could simply return it to the company and they would either replace or re-blade the knife for you.

While I may not be a Spyderco guy myself, I have been around this hobby long enough to know that they are a good, solid company. They wouldn’t have the fan base they do if they weren’t.

Spyderco has been receptive and good about the “issue”. If I recall accurately, folks mainly complained about Sage and Shaman. Lots of back and forth on their forum. First I read or hear about it on other models. My Sage and Shaman were good to go and I am not exclusive to the brand. So I didn’t pay it much attention. Easy fix in any case.

 

[Danny Linguini]

From what I’m seeing, he ‘reprofiles’ the knife, not once but multiple times, and then complains about the design of the knife. Is it not clear that his repeated ‘reprofiling’ has just f’d up the original design beyond safe usability? Am I missing something here?

 

[jbmonkey]

How many people actually watched the video?

He shows proof of what he's referring to, he also says that he uses his knives a lot. Which means that he sharpens his knives, a lot!

For the average knife person, this issue will probably never show up. For that 1% that use their knives a lot, sharpen a lot, it could be an issue.

nope. didnt watch...in the infamous words of Keith Morris..

 

[kasumi]

From what I’m seeing, he ‘reprofiles’ the knife, not once but multiple times, and then complains about the design of the knife. Is it not clear that his repeated ‘reprofiling’ has just f’d up the original design beyond safe usability? Am I missing something here?

NO…

 

[soc_monki]

I have 4 shamans. 3 are pretty much unused, one I have used a lot for about 6 years now. You can put it beside one of the others and see how much blade I've taken off sharpening it over the years. And it's not even near coming out if the scales yet. I don't reprofile it every time and take off a ton of material. I may hit it on a 220 once in a while, but mostly just touch up on a spyderco medium. It is not an issue. If I do end up having blade poking out of the handle I will grind the spine down to fix it until I can't. And then I have 3 more Shaman to use and they will probably take me to my grave.
Same with a Manix. It's a non-issue.

I've watched Alex for a long time. I don't know him personally, and I don't care. He helped me on my way to being good at sharpening and will always appreciate his sharpening knowledge. But this is overblown. If you regularly reprofile and take material away it's unnecessary acceleration of wear. Normal use you'll probably get 15+ years out of the knife.

It's content. Take it with a grain of salt.

 

[kasumi]

I have 4 shamans. 3 are pretty much unused, one I have used a lot for about 6 years now. You can put it beside one of the others and see how much blade I've taken off sharpening it over the years. And it's not even near coming out if the scales yet. I don't reprofile it every time and take off a ton of material. I may hit it on a 220 once in a while, but mostly just touch up on a spyderco medium. It is not an issue. If I do end up having blade poking out of the handle I will grind the spine down to fix it until I can't. And then I have 3 more Shaman to use and they will probably take me to my grave.
Same with a Manix. It's a non-issue.

I've watched Alex for a long time. I don't know him personally, and I don't care. He helped me on my way to being good at sharpening and will always appreciate his sharpening knowledge. But this is overblown. If you regularly reprofile and take material away it's unnecessary acceleration of wear. Normal use you'll probably get 15+ years out of the knife.

It's content. Take it with a grain of salt.

Amen!!

 

[eveled]

It is a well-known fact, especially to traditional knife users, that use and sharpening over time will often result in an exposed blade tip. Reprofile the tip or file the kick and the problem goes away. It is analogous to using a pencil down to the nub... it doesn't mean the pencil is at fault. However, if there's an issue NIB, send it back.

I don't see an issue here.

/\ spoken like an actual knife expert/\

 

[SharpBits]

People don’t understand how YT works. Making a clickbait title and video will greatly improve his income stream from ad views. Follow the money, always. Even with people you like.

 

[timberweasel]

/\ spoken like an actual knife expert/\

I'm no expert. I'm just a hobbyist.

BladeForums is one of the biggest and best knife websites on the internet--home to legit experts with close connections to the elite of the elite in the cutlery world. If you sit on their porch long enough, you can't help but soak up some of what they're spilling.

 

[SharpBits]

I'm no expert. I'm just a hobbyist.

BladeForums is one of the biggest and best knife websites on the internet--home to legit experts with close connections to the elite of the elite in the cutlery world. If you sit on their porch long enough, you can't help but soak up some of what they're spilling.

^ This

 

[LarryG]

And if it does happen, you just grind a bit off the spine to lower the tip. No big deal.

If you go to 1:44 in the video, you’ll see an old knife that had too many sharpenings. You’d have to grind off an absolutely huge amount of spine to get that tip 5 mm into the handle. The geometry of that blade just isn’t suited to that solution.

 

[SharpBits]

If you lost that amount of super steel from pure honest work, the knife deserves to be retired. Over sharpening is abuse to my mind. Wasting steel to waste it. Just like complaining your tires wear out too soon when you do constant burnouts.

 

[LarryG]

If you lost that amount of super steel from pure honest work, the knife deserves to be retired. Over sharpening is abuse to my mind. Wasting steel to waste it. Just like complaining your tires wear out too soon when you do constant burnouts.

I just looked at my Sage 5 in Spy27. I would have to do at least 25 major re-profilings to expose the tip. If I ever get to that point (or if my great-great grandson gets to that point), it’s just time to buy a new knife.

 

[2manyknives]

I’ve owned most Spyderco models over many years and never experienced this problem. It’s not a rare problem with slip joints and lock backs but as others have already pointed out, easily resolved by removing a tiny amount of steel from the kick.

 

[Ajack60]

I’ve got a Native Chief with Rex 45 that I broke the tip off prying with it. When the knife was closed, the end of the blade was exposed. I sent it to a guy and he re profiled the tip and now it doesn’t poke out anymore. Hope that helps with the discussion. Opinions are like bellybuttons, everyone has one, so here’s mine. Dollar for dollar, Spyderco is probably the best knife on the market right now. Even if for some strange reason one of my Spyderco’s was used so much that the tip is starting to be exposed from sharpening, then it would be time to replace it. And I wouldn’t feel bad getting a new one. Then I’d learn how to sharpen without removing excessive metal.
My experience with Spyderco is that if I’m using one to the point of having to sharpen it that much, then the blade will probably break before the tip will ever be exposed

 

[Danny Linguini]

People don’t understand how YT works. Making a clickbait title and video will greatly improve his income stream from ad views. Follow the money, always. Even with people you like.

And that’s exactly why I have zero love or respect for YouTubers and ‘influencers’. The fact that so many of them are actually making money off of it just sticks in my craw. Some of them are knowledgeable and legitimately helpful, but there’s enough of these clickbaiters to just sour me on the whole lot of them.

 

[Ajack60]

Also, in the time I’ve been here, I’ve learned how to properly sharpen my knives from the members here that are willing to share their knowledge without expecting anything in return. This place has a wealth of knowledge and a person could learn a lot here without having to look elsewhere.