BladeForums.com Survival Knife & Kit project

macgregor22 said:
but then you cant carry the cup stove system, the 2 quarts are also alittle big

they do have collaspable 1quarts, I use them
they make good pillows also
http://imsplus.com/ims1a.html
the 3rd one down
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are we gonna have a cook out and sleep over? or are we carrying the basics to survive. the only time i would need a metal cup is in cold weather survival. a stove plus fuel is too much to hump around. add in your weapon, ammo, comm. gear,etc...

not to dis anyone. but camping with all the comforts of home is one thing. a suvival bob is another. i am thinking more tactical.

h2o is the most important item to survive any prolonged exposure in the grass. light weight rations will still weigh you down. never can have too much h2o.
 
Spark,

The SOL kit is good stuff but the firemaking sucks in my opinion. Now, if we add the TOPS fire starter and TinderQuik then we'll be good to go for sure. Not sure where you can purchase signal mirrors from or button compasses in bulk.
 
Forget hauling fuel. A small grill though for heating & boiling water / cooking food isn't too bad though, right?

http://candlelantern.com/grilliput.html is something I was looking at.

Screw carrying the kitchen sink. I don't want a 40lb rucksack full of crap.

Jeff - Ultimate Survival Technologies sells similar mirrors, or I can get the same one from the kit direct from AMK. Same with the button compass, and that's available from other vendors as well.
 
1kimo4u said:
are we gonna have a cook out and sleep over? or are we carrying the basics to survive. the only time i would need a metal cup is in cold weather survival. a stove plus fuel is too much to hump around. add in your weapon, ammo, comm. gear,etc...

not to dis anyone. but camping with all the comforts of home is one thing. a suvival bob is another. i am thinking more tactical.

h2o is the most important item to survive any prolonged exposure in the grass. light weight rations will still weigh you down. never can have too much h2o.
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I think you misunderstood the cup stove system is a metal cup and a metal stand that makes it easyer to cook with, it all then fits under the canteen
no fuel/gas/tabs needed
 
hikeeba said:
I like this idea a lot. Spark, would there be any BF private labeling involved? it wouldn't be a dealer maker/breaker, but a reference to BladeForums somewhere would be a nice touch.
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I was thinking of a logo like (cYa) :D
 
R.A.T. said:
I just reviewed the SOL kit for SWAT magazine (should be in the April issue I think). I wasn't too impressed with the waterproof matches. If you get them wet and try to strike them they don't work and you end up ruining the strike pad. A ferro rod would be MUCH better. Also, their method for storing the fishing line just plain sucks. If you had cold hands then you would never be able to get the line unwound.

When I think of personal survival kits I tend to lean towards a 3-day scenario with an emphasis on signaling, rescue and shelter. The kit has to have a good signal mirror (the SOL kit mirror is excellent), a usable compasss (good button compasses are fine), note pad and pencil to aid in self-rescue and navigation. Fire making tools and good cordage is also a must in my kit. Round it off with a space blanket, decent fishing kit and a plastic water storage bag and it should be good to go for a last ditch kit.
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Spark said:
Well in that case, maybe I should toss the SOL kit and cobble something else together. Maybe the Ritter PSP, and the Emergency Bivvy, along with a pouch to hold them and other stuff in.
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Spark said:
tknife - Yeah, I've got a couple thousand pieces of the TinderQuik which comes with the Spark Lite firestarter here, that's not an issue.

Landar - unfortunately, Spec-Ops has discontinued the Survival Sheath, so the ones I have on hand are the only ones left available.
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NOW we talkin'!!! :thumbup:

Ritter PSP, buncha TinderQuick & Ferro of some sort (I like Spark-Like as it can be used one handed--good for injury situation), small lightweight cordage, metal break apart canteen, heatsheet bivy and a knife.

Don't know if the grill is useful. Can put metal cup directly on coals, and can make spit/multi-pointed spit with knife for whatever food you might scrounge up.

I'm loving the direction this is taking.
 
I'm in....if you've got any ideas of good a carry bag for all the goodies, I'd also be interested in that...
 
This is taking a very interesting direction. The Grilliput is a very good idea. That and some heavy duty aluminum foil would take care of all cooking and boiling needs. I like the Canteen cup for cooking and boiling, but I think that the Grilliput and aluminum foil allows for a lighter and more compact package.

I'm in depending on price.
 
I'd love to include a Nalgene bottle and cup, but I can't seem to find the manufacturer's websites for any of the available cups that actually slip over a Nalgene bottle.

Also, good news, looks like I might offer this in RC-4 and RC-6 flavors!
 
Spark, look at Campmor.com for the olicamp ss cup, I believe that's one frequently used as you want w/ a Nalgene type bottle. Forgo the Grilliput, it's pretty heavy and clunky IME, I just carry 2 ss bike spokes to jerry rig a grill over a fire. You can cut the 2 spokes to whatever length you want with aviation snips, I use 2 12" inchers myself. Get the heaviest guage your local bike shop has for their mtn bike wheels, cost $3 or less a pair.

Esbit just came out with their own brand of Storm matches, check them out. They come in a large clear film can, and if you remove half there is room for tinderquiks, maybe even a Sparklite.

I'd be interested in a large-ish quantity of Tinderquiks if you have them available, let me know.
 
Very cool idea.

Where is this headed anyway? Breast pockets size, or man purse size?

Shelter, fire, water, signal seem to be the mentioned priorities.

I will go back and read again but is this a 72 hr stay alive affair or a "go to" PSK for hiking camping?

An end all be all kit will be difficult to accommodate all weather and geographic areas.

My .02$ says platypus bags for h20 but even those might be too big or expensive.

But you might be hard pressed to find a steel boiling container that will fit in a pocket. Steel having the benefit of being more durable of course.

Never mind, didn't Beer Grills boil water in a paper bag?:)

J.
 
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