Blades & Bourbon

POCEH KOCEB said:
3. Another vote for Old Tub, made by Jim Beam. Great and readily available pour, for the money it is much better IMO than most of the Jim Beam Line.
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Seeing it mentioned here reminded me that I'd purchased a bottle a couple months ago; so I gave it a try when I got home from work this morning. TBH, it left me rather flat... Nothing particularly appealing in the nose, thin in the mouth, taste was okay, not much of a finish. Basically what it has going for it is that it is an inexpensive 100 pr bourbon. While there's nothing particularly good enough to make it stand out, there's also nothing bad about it. I don't regret buying it. I'll certainly drink the rest of the bottle. It was just too -well- meh to get my recommendation.
*It should go without saying that this is simply my opinion. I'm not "an expert". Matters of taste are subjective - drink what you like:thumbsup:
 
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hhmoore said:
While there's nothing particularly good enough to make it stand out, there's also nothing bad about it. I don't regret buying it. I'll certainly drink the rest of the bottle. It was just too -well- meh to get my recommendation.
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Exactly how I felt with it, but compared to other Jim Beam products up to the $30 line, I found it to be less alcohol overwhelming. They are few JB releases I like, especially the Distillers Cut which is very good for what they sell it for, Old Tub is just another good, inexpensive, everyday pour IMO, that's why I recommended it. It won't break the bank in any case. Same as the Heaven Hill white label, it's just a lower proof.
 
In again. Not exactly bourbon, but this is what I pulled out of the bar this evening.
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Dad 98 4.jpg Hi, folks,
Many thanks for all your kind help and information!! That gives me a lot of good information to get started! I have
a "slightly late" Christmas present coming, in the form of a Jacob Bromwell handmade copper flask, tinned inside to
prevent affecting the flavor of its' contents. Soon, I hope to be using it occasionally, and with a more informed approach!

I realized that I had not contributed a Blade pic, much less a Bourbon pic, so I'll remedy that tonight. It's not nearly the quality
of photographs and composition that we've seen here, but will be a start...
In memory of my Dad, a fine father, who would have turned 100 in a few months. I happened through a liquor store months ago, and
when I saw the limited-release Stagg bourbon for sale, I got it in memory of him, as he'd worked there as a teen. So far, it's been good!
Thanks again,
John
 
hhmoore said:
Seeing it mentioned here reminded me that I'd purchased a bottle a couple months ago; so I gave it a try when I got home from work this morning. TBH, it left me rather flat... Nothing particularly appealing in the nose, thin in the mouth, taste was okay, not much of a finish. Basically what it has going for it is that it is an inexpensive 100 pr bourbon. While there's nothing particularly good enough to make it stand out, there's also nothing bad about it. I don't regret buying it. I'll certainly drink the rest of the bottle. It was just too -well- meh to get my recommendation.
*It should go without saying that this is simply my opinion. I'm not "an expert". Matters of taste are subjective - drink what you like:thumbsup:
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Just opened my bottle of Old Tub and my impressions were entirely the opposite.

Neither flat nor thin to me. The 100% proof makes it a bit hot, even on ice. There's a sweetness in the nose accompanied by strong spice and the flavors of (to me) cloves, orange rind, caramel and vanilla that prevail, with a dark carmel color despite it's young (4 yr) age. Adding a bit of water and/or ice mellows it out to make it more enjoyable for sipping for me.

It contrasts remarkably w/the Pinhook Bohemian Bourbon (Low Proof 95%) that I also opened recently.

I can't find the receipe for Old Tub but Pinhook is made of 75% corn, 20% rye and 5% barley and only aged for 3 yrs but it has a much lighter color (it looks like rosé in the bottle) and flavor than Old Tub for twice the price. Pinhook is still a very good bourbon in it's own right with a good amount of spice and the flavor of dried fuit which would pair well with food, while the Old Tub would be better just for sipping or even mixing if you like to use your bourbon that way.

But, as you say, taste is "subjective." Enjoy! ;)
 
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John F. said:
In memory of my Dad, a fine father, who would have turned 100 in a few months. I happened through a liquor store months ago, and when I saw the limited-release Stagg bourbon for sale, I got it in memory of him, as he'd worked there as a teen. So far, it's been good!
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Salute ! I'm sure you've enjoined the Stagg Jr, I love it, I only wish it was more available down here in FL... And not for ridiculous amount of $$

sgt1372 said:
Just opened my bottle of Old Tub and my impressions were entirely the opposite....The 100% proof makes it a bit hot, even on ice... Adding a bit of water and/or ice mellows it out to make it more enjoyable for sipping for me.
It contrasts remarkably w/the Pinhook Bourbon Country that I also opened recently.
...But, as you say, taste is "subjective." Enjoy! ;)
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Yes, Old Tub was little bit on the hot site but I also put only water and than all the flavors are showing up, not a bad sip for $19+, this is what I meant when I said I find it better than most of the JB line.
Talking about the Jim Beam, here is a Single Barrel that I'm sure every store have it, new release, and very tasty:

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And talking about Pinhook, it is one of my favorites, an fairly new company, unique and particularly with very good Rye expressions ! Their First Rye release was "Bourbon and Rye" ( The name of the horse, they name their releases after),
I did love it so much, that I bought almost every bottle I could find around, they were around $30, not bad at all for what they are... :D
Now, since they sold out this particular batch, you can't find it... I follow the owner of the Company in IG and we briefly communicate, he mentioned that he have to look in the stores in order to find this particular-one :D

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This is unbelievable Rye ! 2 yo but very flavorful ! The next release of the same juice is the 4 yo, higher proof Tiz Rye Time, also great and very smooth Rye.
I would highly recommend if anyone is interested of Pinhook, to download their app that explains very well all the expressions, mashbils and so on and what is the more important - they give you a phone number and if you text them the name of the release you're interested of, they will send you a bottle ( not for free, but... :D )
This, along with the Indiana's Huber Starlight companies will be IMO the new stars in the industry, very solid pours :thumbsup:
 
Have opened and tried a variety of other bourbons in the past couple of weeks that I haven't commented on previously.

Here's the list of those:

Angel's Envy
Larceny
Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style
Pinhook Bohemian High Proof Bourbon (114.5 Proof)
Stillhouse Black Bourbon

Not a "bad" bourbon in the bunch. Won't bother going into the details of each but the one that really stands out for me is the Old Forester 1920.

It has a lot of complexity, great nose and flavor and good either neat or on ice. Adding it to Eagle Rare 10 and Michter's USA1 Small Batch as one of my favorites. Highly recommended.

Have expanded my list of bourbons to buy/try in the future to 16 more, as listed in my prior Post #437 but most of them are either out of stock or unavailable at my local Total Wines and BevMo, so it may be some time before I can try any of them.

Will just enjoy drinking the bourbons that I've already bought in the meantime. ;)
 
sgt1372 said:
Not a "bad" bourbon in the bunch. Won't bother going into the details of each but the one that really stands out for me is the Old Forester 1920.
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+1. Big fan of Old Forester, even the bottom shelf, higher or lower proof. My personal favorites are the Single Barrel and the Statesman. :thumbsup:
Pinhook and Angel's Envy are always good stuff, Larceny too, you should try the higher proof Larceny, IMO - much better !
The Rye finished Angel's Envy to me is good but overpriced but I guess you can shoot high if you want to try it, it's not bad just pricey.
Anyway, from everything that I have tried recently, the two that impressed me the most are Huber's Starlight Single Barrel and the Woodinville.
Starlight is little bit pricy but absolutely worth every penny IMO, Woodinville is priced around $40 and it's very good for the money :thumbsup:

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Went on a "hunt" today for more whiskey (scotch and bourbon) and ended up spending about $1k on 7 bottles of bourbon and 5 bottles of scotch.

Since this is a bourbon thread, I'll just mention (here) the bourbon that I picked up today (tasting notes to follow):

1792 Full Proof
Elijah Craig Barrel Proof
Heaven Hill 7yr Bottled in Bond
Hudson Bay Bourbon
McKenna 10
Russell's Reserve 10
Woodinville Port Finished Ltd Special Release 2020

Found these all at a small local liquor store that "specializes" in craft beers and certain hard to find liquor. Their bourbon selection was excellent; the scotch selection not so much. This now makes a total of 20 bottles in my bourbon collection.

My local Total Wine & More and BevMo did not have a majority of the bottles bought there and this was the 1st place that had McKenna 10 on the shelf. It cost over $100 (broke my limit) but bought it anyway because I couldn't find it anywhere else.

They also had a bottle of Weller 12 and Michter's 10 on the shelf but wasn't ready to pay another $500 for for them.

There was also a bottle of Georget T. Stagg on the shelf for $500, which (believe or not) was apparently a "bargain" because other bottles of it (various years) are offered online at $1,150 and up!

Not ready to fork over $500 for just 1 bottle, even though I've done that for a knife but at least I know where I can get it.

Maybe next time. ;)
 
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You've got a great selection, I would list them top to bottom in the same way, except, the EC BP would be first, than 1792 Full Proof... Heaven Hill 7 yo - one of my all time favorites! Congrats on the finds !
I'm also curious what you found of the Scotch, you can DM me if you like :thumbsup:
FYI Prices in Tampa FL: McKena 10 - $26 in ABC, hard to find, but still come across here and there for around $50. Green Weller - $26 in ABC, once in a Blue Moon... Weller 12 is about $50-$60 if you get to the ABC's Vault, Stag Junior is around $80-$100, the "real" Stag is about $400, Michters 10 we got for $170+, Elmer T and Rock Hill Farms was about the same, little bit more expensive but below $200.
As I mentioned before, I don't mind to try expensive stuff, but I prefer $40-$60 good Bourbon that is readily available...
Some Heavy Hitters tonight that will not break the bank- my new Raja 2, chopping my wife's 9h Green Egg Brisket with some excellent Single Barrel Jim Beam. Cheers !

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POCEH KOCEB said:
You've got a great selection, I would list them top to bottom in the same way, except, the EC BP would be first, than 1792 Full Proof... Heaven Hill 7 yo - one of my all time favorites! Congrats on the finds !
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Thanks for the congrats and the ratings but I just listed them in alphabetical order. LOL! ;)

POCEH KOCEB said:
I'm also curious what you found of the Scotch, you can DM me if you like :thumbsup:
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I've been posting my both scotch and bourbon collection/finds in a separate (more generic) thread that you can find here.

My updated scotch collection is listed in Post #75 on Page 4 and what I just purchased today you can find in Post #99 on Page 5.

The scotch that I bought today was:

Aberlour 16 (Double Cask - Oak/Sherry)
Aberlour Abundah (Sherry Cask Strength)
Bunnahabhain Toiteach A Dha (Smokey Two)
Dalmore Cigar Malt Reserve
Genfiddich 14 (Bourbon casked)

However, these purchases only make sense in the context of the entire collection because I purchased them to fill certain gaps w/in the collection as a whole.

POCEH KOCEB said:
FYI Prices in Tampa FL: McKena 10 - $26 in ABC, hard to find, but still come across here and there for around $50. Green Weller - $26 in ABC, once in a Blue Moon... Weller 12 is about $50-$60 if you get to the ABC's Vault, Stag Junior is around $80-$100, the "real" Stag is about $400, Michters 10 we got for $170+, Elmer T and Rock Hill Farms was about the same, little bit more expensive but below $200.
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Guess I should move to FL. Today was the 1st time that I saw an actual bottle of McKenna or anything w/Stagg's or Weller's name on it. The mark up compared to the prices you mentioned is pretty incredible.

POCEH KOCEB said:
As I mentioned before, I don't mind to try expensive stuff, but I prefer $40-$60 good Bourbon that is readily available...
Some Heavy Hitters tonight that will not break the bank- my new Raja 2, chopping my wife's 9h Green Egg Brisket with some excellent Single Barrel Jim Beam. Cheers !
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I was limiting my whiskey buys to $100 but, after today, I'm up to $140 now, which make senses because I've already bought most of the "lower cost" whiskeys that I'm interested in buying but, like knives, I've got to set some kind of limit just to keep the buying under control.

However, I expect that this limit will rise to at least $200, which is what I'll pay for a good bottle of wine that won't last near as long as a bottle of scotch or bourbon. ;)

I was willing to pay $105 for the McKenna because I haven't seen it anywhere else and it just above my "prior" $100 limit but the $225 ask for Michter's 10 and $250 for Weller 12 is something I just don't want to pay yet and no way I'm going to pay $500 for the George T. Stagg I saw.

Still a few random and much cheaper bottles that are still on my "to buy" list; nothing special just some "standards" to round out the collection.
 
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