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Blades For Animal Defense?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Wolfeye, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. Velitrius

    Velitrius Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Now I sure hope that guy's wife quits browbeating him for buying stuff from the BFC Exchange every month.
     
  2. jill jackson

    jill jackson

    Sep 5, 2006
    My dog Spikey likes a knife with handles that he can get a grip on. [​IMG]
     
  3. MaximIsayev

    MaximIsayev

    772
    Dec 17, 2014
    Before firearms the most common setup was a sturdy spear combined with a long knife, can't really go wrong with that. An axe would do in a pinch too.
     
  4. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    OF COURSE a firearm would be a better defense against dog, wolf, bear attack than a spear....and a carbine/short rifle better than a Glock in the hands of most for that matter.

    But this being BLADEforums, the OP first and foremost asked for bladed suggestions.



    A while ago, I was attacked by two dogs (setting; rural US. Dogs; medium sized. One clearly a pit mix).

    After a little dance, I managed to connect a solid kick with my MIL boot under the jaw of the pit mix snapping at me and moving about trying to bite my leg.

    I still remember the resounding 'CLACK' of its lower jaw meeting the upper jaw. For those not having been in such a situation, its a most satisfactory sound.

    The pit being the leader of the 'mini pack' lost a bit of spirit after that and the two mutts departed from whence they came.

    Having actually been in that situation and after my verbal commands and elegant footwork (in reality incoherent shouting and frantic moonwalking in a Benny Hill-like tempo) saved me from bitten that day, I feel a staff/spear a valid suggestion (in that situation. YMMV).

    Had I had a staff, the encounter would have been decided far earlier and had I had a hog spear, I would have used that....and I happen to like dogs - just not the ones hell-bent on taking a bite out of me.

    Ohh, it felt quite real to me alright.
     
  5. 115Italian

    115Italian

    Nov 13, 2015
    You will want something that puts distance between you and the animal. Running from a attacking animal would be a bad choice as they could easily out run you.
     
  6. Dean Crail

    Dean Crail

    321
    Nov 25, 2013
    Allot of dogs are let out without fences or leashes where I live, generally "charging" towards the animal and yelling will be enough to get a dog to back off. If that does not work I have had really good luck with Kimber Pepper Blasters there is less risk of it blowing back into your face and the gel really sticks. If that does not work I always carry a Dan Wesson VBOB Commander 1911 loaded with 230gr HST and an Emerson Super Karambit in my back pocket.
     
  7. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    This seems to be what is recommended. I have seen it recommended as even better than a gun-not going to argue it one way or the other, but that is what I have read.
    Chances are I won't have a spear on me, so walking stick and then knife as my last resort.
     
  8. Ken44

    Ken44

    Jun 29, 2005
    That part made me think of Gene Moe up in AL.
    I've seen him on a couple of shows, and the last was Wild West Alaska. He has gotten to old to hunt, and some of the fellows from WWA offered to use his tags for him that year. He told the whole story, and showed his scars. One tough old man, and very lucky to be alive !

    ....http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/larry-mueller-and-marguerite-reiss/2007/09/last-stand
     
  9. b yond

    b yond

    306
    Jun 3, 2011
    Nell Hamm fought off a mountain lion that was attacking her husband. She used an ink pen and a log. I don't think it was even a tactical log.
     
  10. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod

    Apr 6, 2000
    The mountain lion said it was.
     
  11. Joshua J.

    Joshua J.

    Feb 27, 2005
    I don't know about historical precedent but my favorite "hiking" trail goes within 50 feet of a fairly well populated Coyote den. Not that I expect the Coyotes to view me as dinner any time soon, but you never know.
    My favorite knives to carry on the trail are large Tri-Ad lock Cold Steel folders, the G-10 versions are quite light and come in a lot of pointy designs, it actually seems like they're designed to kill things.

    Really I should have a shotgun, and honestly it probably doesn't make much difference how big your knife is as long as you have a good grip, but if an animal decides I'm worth messing with I just want to err on the side of killing it faster rather than slower.
     
  12. mtangent

    mtangent

    Dec 6, 2011
    What about clothing/body armour. The bear article suggested thick wool helped decrease bight damage. I'm thinking motocross armour for bushwalkers.
     
  13. b yond

    b yond

    306
    Jun 3, 2011
    Is a woods ninja in any way related to a mall ninja?

    On a related note, I've taken my XL Espada backpacking to use as a folding machete. It would probably do as well as any other folder against an animal. It has a strong lock and good reach for a folder.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
  14. Wowbagger

    Wowbagger Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    I thought we did rather well on that topic, approximately, here.
     
  15. Ironbut

    Ironbut Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 1, 2016
    We walk the dogs daily through black bear habitat & will occasionally see one or two trying to get as far away from us as possible. In fact, we've had them cross our back yard several times. I carry a handgun almost all the time & a folder. If a bear is mad enough to get within knife range of me, then it's likely that I've already emptied at least one magazine into him & if I go poking around him with a knife, it'll probably really upset him. That doesn't mean I won't put up a fight, but still.....

    Realistically, it's much more likely that I'll have to use my gun (or knife) for self defense on our weekly trip in town to the grocery store, or at the gas station getting gas.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2016
  16. JR88FAN

    JR88FAN

    May 5, 2013
    In any situation involving an animal, and when your only means of defence is a knife, the key is where to stab, and staying calm enough to get that opportunity.

    It will usually mean that you may suffer an injury, but done correctly, you will in almost all situations be able to save your life.

    Staying calm so that your brain can function is always the tricky part....
     
  17. john april

    john april KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 27, 2006
    best bang for the buck - cold steel assegai spear.
     
  18. JR88FAN

    JR88FAN

    May 5, 2013
    Oh what more than a few guys must be thinking when they read this.....I am not gonna go there.....
     
  19. JR88FAN

    JR88FAN

    May 5, 2013
    The problem with long things like spears is that you better know what you're doing, because you generally will have one shot at it.....

    I will take a something that doesn't work from distances, but gives me multiple chances from up close despite the fact that I will be injured.
     
  20. skyhorse

    skyhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    When the day comes I need help walking , a shillelagh will be by my side. ;):thumbup:
     

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