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Exactly. I got jacked in the skull by a Kraut cop for defending myself. And then got to spend a few days enjoying the finest shite hole jail in all of Koln.
You don't do that ...
You don't defend yourself when a cop is present, they don't like that in Germany.
And if your self-defense is out of proportion (a highly debatable thing, proportion), you will make the aggressor to be a victim in legal terms.
(You get punched and kicked, you pull a knife - you're in trouble.)
 
It seems like most of your comments are anti-law enforcement. I'm not hypersensitive or I wouldn't last a day on the street but you apparently don't like much about law enforcement.

So, I say that in the case this thread started about, the police were justified but because I don't agree with everything police departments do, I'm "anti-law enforcement" or "anti-cop" or "cop-bashing" or "cop hating." That's insane my friend, I don't hate you, I'm not bashing you and YOU ARE THIN SKINNED and I don't care if that makes you angry because it's true or you would not have wrote what you did and you would not think the way you do.

If I were "anti-cop," I would have said the original topic was a bad shoot or whatever. But you can't see the forest for the trees because you're the one that has the problem.

One of the problems that LEOs face is that it's most often the bad shit that makes it into the news. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of officers faithfully go about their daily duties and try to do what they think is in the public's best interest, knowing damn well that everyone is waiting to pounce on them if they screw up even a little bit.

I think pulling a gun on some McDonald's employee because you're not getting your hotcakes fast enough is goddamned well past "screw[ing] up even a little bit." So are the other things cited.

Are there bad cops? Hell yes! Do all cops deserve to be painted with the same brush as the handful of rotten apples? I don't think so.

Grump, I'm sorry, I missed the part where I said, "And that 'Grump" fucker, he is one of the worst. He will kick you in the nuts while you're handcuffed," or, add your own nightmare or atrocity if you like. I missed that part because I didn't say it. You didn't get slopped with paint. I don't know what it is about cops and doctors, everyone else in this society from mechanics to cashiers has to take it in the ass when it comes to being criticized but for some reason, police officers and doctors start the "paint with a broad brush" defense.
 
I just think any debate should (and can) be debated without everyone getting upset. Maybe we have been way too lenient in the RAT forum with allowing threads to go off-topic. I don't know what it is about LE subjects, gun subjects and martial arts BS that gets so many people unwound. Like I said, when it gets too emotional and becomes a dick measuring contest, it's time to shut it down. I locked this thread before Shotgunner had the chance. ;) Chill out everyone. This kind of emotion is just plain crazy when this place is made to be fun. In the end, I will have the last emotional statement and say I don't care who I piss of but this debate has turned into nothing more than a bunch of kids arguing over a playground swing. Silly. And this forum has no time for it. If that pisses any of you off, well, so be it.

Back to our regularly scheduled program.....

Jeff
 
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